(11-25-2014 05:34 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:42 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  While its an opinion, I do think Memphis and Cincy would be good all around adds for the Big 12. While, football is king, they also bring great basketball that will add to the revenue pile with additional NCAA tourney credits and TV.

Regardless, The Big 12 really only has AAC schools for its options to expand. So the question that I'd like to know is does the AAC stand pat at 10 for football or do you raid CUSA again?

If only two are gone, I like for the AAC to remain at 10

If 2 go and neither are USF, I hope we talk to the MWC about taking 6 of their teams... like we should have in the first place.

well sounds like you all got it figured out finally so, pack your bags Memphis, looks like your going with us.

(11-25-2014 05:38 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  well sounds like you all got it figured out finally so, pack your bags Memphis, looks like your going with us.

Talk about a nuclear disaster for UCONN....

Sorry Memphis but with 17,221 students and no ranking in US today top colleges, and low endowments, a long shot to happen and never will before UC. UCONN and UCF would go before Memphis. Just saying.

What these fools don't know understand is the playoffs is going to go to 8 teams there already crying out for it, swofford and other P5AD's

Memphis would be a good addition to the XII along with Cincy. UCF would be good too, but we do create another island. UCF makes more sense only if the XII were to go for a conference network or if they are going to add more than 2. Add UCF, USF, Memphis, and Cincy and match the ACC and B1G with 14. But the XII is too greedy to do that.

We've lost enough team the power 5 enough is enough just play the *** **** football game

(11-25-2014 05:46 PM)eastside cat Wrote:  Sorry Memphis but with 17,221 students and no ranking in US today top colleges, and low endowments, a long shot to happen and never will before UC. UCONN and UCF would go before Memphis. Just saying.

UC was #11 Memphis was #12.


If we were talking Big 10 or ACC I'd definitely buy the UCF or UConn ahead of us for those conferences. Simply because IF the ACC took another team it would be to replace a school from Florida they would lose to the SEC. The Big 10 and UConn for obvious reasons.

What you fail to mention is the Memphis Market, the improvements to facilities, the academic PROGRESS, the football PROGRESS. Endowment isn't a big deal. When people see a top 50 market they start looking. When people see a top 3 market for ACTUAL EYES ON TV SETS they really start looking.

Memphis brings TONS to the Big XII. If Memphis landed every single top recruit in Memphis and the surrounding area every single season we could EASILY field a top 15 team on that talent alone. That recruiting is currently dominated by the SEC. The Big 12 wants and has always wanted a piece of that. There is so much more I don't even feel like explaining to you.

The thing I like is we can also keep a rivalry with Cincy. I would love for it to be Louisville, Memphis and Cincy but that's not happening, at least not in the same conference. Cincy and Memphis have more history than Cincy and UConn, Cincy and UCF, Cincy and USF, Memphis and UCF, Memphis and UConn and Memphis and USF.

It hasn't felt like it because we were split up, but there are tons of fans who still love to hate each other.

I could keep going but why?

Memphis and Cincy to the Big 12 makes more sense as a pair then anyone else. Period.

(11-25-2014 05:53 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  We've lost enough team the power 5 enough is enough just play the *** **** football game

Can someone translate that?

(11-25-2014 05:56 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 05:53 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  We've lost enough team the power 5 enough is enough just play the *** **** football game

Can someone translate that?

GD

The hillarious part of this entire debate is people acting like this will happen. Yall do realize just how fast things change. Just 3 years ago they were talking about how USF would be going to the Big 12 and there was very little mention of UCF. Now UCF is the hot team... just wait. They will hit a skid again and USF will be up and it will switch.

Right now Memphis is the hotter team and the talk will be about them. Let them have their moment. You have to remember that WVU and TCU were pretty damn good for a pretty long time before they got an invite. 2-3 good seasons isnt going to get an invite.

and for those saying that memphis cant get in because of Academics... WVU isnt exactly a power house. Just saying.

(11-25-2014 02:55 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  First winning since '08 and the Memphis to the BXII posts already begin.

At least it wasn't based solely on preseason / early season hype like the occasional ECU to the BXII posts.

About as logical as a school a thousand miles away getting in because they won a bowl game.

Don't get me wrong, I think Memphis would be a perfect addition to the BXII. It just kinda gets old that after a team gets a whiff of success, it's off to the Big 12 they go! This coming Tuesday! (ourselves included, though in all fairness, there was just as much talk about UCF to the B1G-2 from everyone else, as UCF fans.

(11-25-2014 03:04 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:48 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:43 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  First winning since '08 and the Memphis to the BXII posts already begin.

At least it wasn't based solely on preseason / early season hype like the occasional ECU to the BXII posts.

No way to substantiate it on my part, but T Boone Pickens has mentioned us.
While not a sure thing by any means, where there is smoke, a fire is usually close by.
IF the Big12 gets shut out of the playoff picture....the ball will get rolling.
It will get interesting to see how it all plays out.

About every UC fan has asphyxiated from all the smoke surrounding us the last four years...the only thing that will change it is if we can prove that we will increase their revenue, or if we agree to take next to nothing to start (maybe Memphis and Cincinnati split the revenue from the CCG only for the first 5 years).

sounds about right.
Not to mention attendance at both schools would increase dramatically with the likes of Baylor, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State coming in.
I think Memphis would drop record-wise until it could adjust to the level of recruiting in the Big 12....not so sure that would happen to Cincy as bad.
I know yalls defense hasn't been great shakes this year...but Tuberville will get that fixed.

lol... If memory serves... I think we've been in a conference with those little Baylor/Waco and TT/Lubbock Tx town schools before... Trust me when I say this, Texas and Oklahoma, but more so Texas hold that conference together and if they leave the B12 that conference is doomed.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for Houston to join the B12 but ONLY if Texas assures us that they aren't going anywhere... But knowing how Texas works, you better be ready for anything or better yet, CUSA 1.0/2.0 all over again.

Exhausting thinking about it... Yikes

(11-25-2014 06:08 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 03:04 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:48 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:43 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  First winning since '08 and the Memphis to the BXII posts already begin.

At least it wasn't based solely on preseason / early season hype like the occasional ECU to the BXII posts.

No way to substantiate it on my part, but T Boone Pickens has mentioned us.
While not a sure thing by any means, where there is smoke, a fire is usually close by.
IF the Big12 gets shut out of the playoff picture....the ball will get rolling.
It will get interesting to see how it all plays out.

About every UC fan has asphyxiated from all the smoke surrounding us the last four years...the only thing that will change it is if we can prove that we will increase their revenue, or if we agree to take next to nothing to start (maybe Memphis and Cincinnati split the revenue from the CCG only for the first 5 years).

sounds about right.
Not to mention attendance at both schools would increase dramatically with the likes of Baylor, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State coming in.
I think Memphis would drop record-wise until it could adjust to the level of recruiting in the Big 12....not so sure that would happen to Cincy as bad.
I know yalls defense hasn't been great shakes this year...but Tuberville will get that fixed.

lol... If memory serves... I think we've been in a conference with those little Baylor/Waco and TT/Lubbock Tx town schools before... Trust me when I say this, Texas and Oklahoma, but more so Texas hold that conference together and if they leave the B12 that conference is doomed.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for Houston to join the B12 but ONLY if Texas assures us that they aren't going anywhere... But knowing how Texas works, you better be ready for anything or better yet, CUSA 1.0/2.0 all over again.

Exhausting thinking about it... Yikes

I think ESPN wanted Texas, Tech, Ok and OSU in the Pac 12 all along. When the Big East didnt play nice, they destroyed them and helped Texas stay with the Longwhore network.

In a few years, after the AAC shows that they will be good boys an do as told I think the move will be made. At that point WVU, ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor and TCU will need at least 6 new teams. Cinci, Memphis, USF, UCF, ECU and one other will be invited.
I personally think that Uconn will get the ACC invite at that point. The ACC has 15 members and Uconn makes all the sense in the world.
I would hope that Houston would get an invite but I know back in the Big East days that when TCU was coming in, they apposed Houston.

I wouldnt mind if those were the 12... could go west and grab 4 more with BYU, Idaho, CSU and Air Force.

(11-25-2014 02:55 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  First winning since '08 and the Memphis to the BXII posts already begin.

At least it wasn't based solely on preseason / early season hype like the occasional ECU to the BXII posts.

About as logical as a school a thousand miles away getting in because they won a bowl game.

Not because they won a bowl game, but for many more valid long term reasons. But that is a discussion for another thread.

(11-25-2014 05:58 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The hillarious part of this entire debate is people acting like this will happen. Yall do realize just how fast things change. Just 3 years ago they were talking about how USF would be going to the Big 12 and there was very little mention of UCF. Now UCF is the hot team... just wait. They will hit a skid again and USF will be up and it will switch.

Right now Memphis is the hotter team and the talk will be about them. Let them have their moment. You have to remember that WVU and TCU were pretty damn good for a pretty long time before they got an invite. 2-3 good seasons isnt going to get an invite.

and for those saying that memphis cant get in because of Academics... WVU isnt exactly a power house. Just saying.

Very sensible thread. Memphis may makes sense to us for B12 but not sure the B12 fans feel the same way just as UCONN makes sense in the ACC but they are not there. It will take a period of sustained success in Football and continued success in Basketball to be on the radar strongly.

(11-25-2014 06:27 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 06:08 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 03:04 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:48 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 02:43 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  No way to substantiate it on my part, but T Boone Pickens has mentioned us.
While not a sure thing by any means, where there is smoke, a fire is usually close by.
IF the Big12 gets shut out of the playoff picture....the ball will get rolling.
It will get interesting to see how it all plays out.

About every UC fan has asphyxiated from all the smoke surrounding us the last four years...the only thing that will change it is if we can prove that we will increase their revenue, or if we agree to take next to nothing to start (maybe Memphis and Cincinnati split the revenue from the CCG only for the first 5 years).

sounds about right.
Not to mention attendance at both schools would increase dramatically with the likes of Baylor, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State coming in.
I think Memphis would drop record-wise until it could adjust to the level of recruiting in the Big 12....not so sure that would happen to Cincy as bad.
I know yalls defense hasn't been great shakes this year...but Tuberville will get that fixed.

lol... If memory serves... I think we've been in a conference with those little Baylor/Waco and TT/Lubbock Tx town schools before... Trust me when I say this, Texas and Oklahoma, but more so Texas hold that conference together and if they leave the B12 that conference is doomed.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for Houston to join the B12 but ONLY if Texas assures us that they aren't going anywhere... But knowing how Texas works, you better be ready for anything or better yet, CUSA 1.0/2.0 all over again.

Exhausting thinking about it... Yikes

I think ESPN wanted Texas, Tech, Ok and OSU in the Pac 12 all along. When the Big East didnt play nice, they destroyed them and helped Texas stay with the Longwhore network.

In a few years, after the AAC shows that they will be good boys an do as told I think the move will be made. At that point WVU, ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor and TCU will need at least 6 new teams. Cinci, Memphis, USF, UCF, ECU and one other will be invited.
I personally think that Uconn will get the ACC invite at that point. The ACC has 15 members and Uconn makes all the sense in the world.
I would hope that Houston would get an invite but I know back in the Big East days that when TCU was coming in, they apposed Houston.

I wouldnt mind if those were the 12... could go west and grab 4 more with BYU, Idaho, CSU and Air Force.

I really like the AAC, I hope this league gets the nice tv revenue bump it deserves, that way no one will have to go elsewhere.

(11-25-2014 01:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ive always thought that Memphis would be a great Addition. Memphis and Cinic would be a solid combo. The location is nearly perfect, bball would be a great addition. (who doesnt want to see Kansas vs Memphis each year) and with the football team improving, I dont doubt that this gets more coverage.

The truth is, with Big 12 type money, that stadium could be upgraded and made to be pretty nice.


Ive said all along (about to piss off the ECU fans) that the best move for the B12 is to take 4. Cinci, Memphis, USF and UCF. Long term, I think Texas may decide to leave and go to the Pac12. If/When that happens Ok, OKst and Tech will also leave meaning the conference will be down 4. Adding four now will allow rivalry to build over the next decade and help the B12 remain a solid conference.

Our stadium and surrounding area were upgraded a few years ago. The stadium is beautiful and super nice

(11-25-2014 08:44 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 01:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ive always thought that Memphis would be a great Addition. Memphis and Cinic would be a solid combo. The location is nearly perfect, bball would be a great addition. (who doesnt want to see Kansas vs Memphis each year) and with the football team improving, I dont doubt that this gets more coverage.

The truth is, with Big 12 type money, that stadium could be upgraded and made to be pretty nice.


Ive said all along (about to piss off the ECU fans) that the best move for the B12 is to take 4. Cinci, Memphis, USF and UCF. Long term, I think Texas may decide to leave and go to the Pac12. If/When that happens Ok, OKst and Tech will also leave meaning the conference will be down 4. Adding four now will allow rivalry to build over the next decade and help the B12 remain a solid conference.

Our stadium and surrounding area were upgraded a few years ago. The stadium is beautiful and super nice

Do you know where there are updated pics. Last time I was there, it needed alot of help. I know they got some upgrades but I kinda thought the liberty bowl would need $60 million to be up to B12 standards.

(11-25-2014 09:43 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 08:44 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 01:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Ive always thought that Memphis would be a great Addition. Memphis and Cinic would be a solid combo. The location is nearly perfect, bball would be a great addition. (who doesnt want to see Kansas vs Memphis each year) and with the football team improving, I dont doubt that this gets more coverage.

The truth is, with Big 12 type money, that stadium could be upgraded and made to be pretty nice.


Ive said all along (about to piss off the ECU fans) that the best move for the B12 is to take 4. Cinci, Memphis, USF and UCF. Long term, I think Texas may decide to leave and go to the Pac12. If/When that happens Ok, OKst and Tech will also leave meaning the conference will be down 4. Adding four now will allow rivalry to build over the next decade and help the B12 remain a solid conference.

Our stadium and surrounding area were upgraded a few years ago. The stadium is beautiful and super nice

Do you know where there are updated pics. Last time I was there, it needed alot of help. I know they got some upgrades but I kinda thought the liberty bowl would need $60 million to be up to B12 standards.

Someone can post them. Night and day, the old girl and surrounding area looks pretty damn good. Great area for tailgating and the food/beer rocks too.