I think it is unreal that Marshall is not even in the top 25 for the playoff
What should happen is any team no matter what conference if they are undefeated and not one of the top 4. You get to go as a play in bid. The play ins could be played out in Dec before the Final 4 in Jan.

They have set this up so no g5 never makes it in.

They could have just set up 8 access bowls and just invited the 4 winners of
Those 8 games to the playoff.

They had a chance to do it right they got it so wrong
Who on the commettie is even from a g5 conference

FBS football is the only sport on any level where you can't tell your players if you win every game
You will be the champs

The BCS isn't gone, they just heavily revamped it and gave it a different name.

If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

(11-17-2014 05:17 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

And just how do you schedule a ranked team? You know 3,4,5 years in advance that a team will be ranked in the year you play them? You know that a Miami of Ohio that won the MAC the year they were scheduled would be at the bottom of the MAC the year you played them? You know that a ranked UCF and Louisville would be gone off your schedule due to realignment that wasn't a whisper when the OOC Louisville was scheduled? You know that a heated rivalry with ECU was blooming and would also be taken away by the same realignment and that they would be ranked this year?

Perhaps if UAB wasn't Jekyll and Hyde this year we would be playing a ranked team. Or were you referring to P5 as ranked teams? They all aren't ranked. Most aren't ranked. But I'm glad to see you've bought into the mantra that all P5 are better and must be scheduled.

At least you can root for Alabama after they kill your school you ignorant ****.

Part of me understands the schedule argument with Marshall and their relatively soft OOC schedule that they can somewhat control with scheduling 1AA schools. On the flipside, OOC's are made years in advance and who can predict that P5 school who wins 8 to 10 games the year the deal is signed is gonna be worth a damn in 3 to 5 years. Look at Kansas football. A team could have signed a deal with them after their 12-1 2007 season and 2008 Orange Bowl victory for the 2009 season and walk into a 5-7 dumpster fire that torches your team's SOS. Or better yet, how about a team that signed a deal with a traditional powerhouse and the undefeated 2010 national champion Auburn Tigers for the 2012 season to find them be winless in conference and finish 3-9. Well just call up and schedule an LSU, Oklahoma, USC, or Michigan State they say. Well those schools have to have an open date that works for both parties which is a crap shoot of luck. Throw into the equation that 8 to 9 games for every single FCS team is set in stone by conference opponents really muddies the water further.

This is all just more reasons the playoffs needs to be expanded to all conference champions and let it be sorted out on the field rather than in sports reporters' and ESPN offices.

(11-17-2014 05:59 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:17 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

And just how do you schedule a ranked team? You know 3,4,5 years in advance that a team will be ranked in the year you play them? You know that a Miami of Ohio that won the MAC the year they were scheduled would be at the bottom of the MAC the year you played them? You know that a ranked UCF and Louisville would be gone off your schedule due to realignment that wasn't a whisper when the OOC Louisville was scheduled? You know that a heated rivalry with ECU was blooming and would also be taken away by the same realignment and that they would be ranked this year?

Perhaps if UAB wasn't Jekyll and Hyde this year we would be playing a ranked team. Or were you referring to P5 as ranked teams? They all aren't ranked. Most aren't ranked. But I'm glad to see you've bought into the mantra that all P5 are better and must be scheduled.

At least you can root for Alabama after they kill your school you ignorant ****.

Beat me to my point while I was writing my thesis on the subject!

(11-17-2014 06:04 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:59 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:17 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

And just how do you schedule a ranked team? You know 3,4,5 years in advance that a team will be ranked in the year you play them? You know that a Miami of Ohio that won the MAC the year they were scheduled would be at the bottom of the MAC the year you played them? You know that a ranked UCF and Louisville would be gone off your schedule due to realignment that wasn't a whisper when the OOC Louisville was scheduled? You know that a heated rivalry with ECU was blooming and would also be taken away by the same realignment and that they would be ranked this year?

Perhaps if UAB wasn't Jekyll and Hyde this year we would be playing a ranked team. Or were you referring to P5 as ranked teams? They all aren't ranked. Most aren't ranked. But I'm glad to see you've bought into the mantra that all P5 are better and must be scheduled.

At least you can root for Alabama after they kill your school you ignorant ****.

Beat me to my point while I was writing my thesis on the subject!

I read your reply. Very well written. Mine was angry because I'm tired of it. By the way we didn't even have a 1-AA scheduled for this year, originally. It was going to be 3 non-AQ and perennial top Big East team Louisville. Realignment screwed our schedule without enough notice to fix it. And people need to remember that we didn't know we would be this good when that schedule was made either. It wasn't the toughest schedule out there, but we were 5-7 when it was made.

I'm sorry, but Marshall does not deserve playoff consideration. It is what it is.

(11-17-2014 06:19 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm sorry, but Marshall does not deserve playoff consideration. It is what it is.

Every conference champion, if we are so blessed, deserves playoff consideration. It is what they want you to believe.

(11-17-2014 06:19 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm sorry, but Marshall does not deserve playoff consideration. It is what it is.

I tend to agree that I don't think that Marshall is in the top 4 but at some point an undefeated team should regardless of what conference they are in deserves a path to a national championship in some shape, way, or form.

What if Marshall, let's say, had WVU written on their jerseys with the same exact schedule ?

(11-17-2014 05:17 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

Ah shut your pie hole idiot. Could you possibly be less informed?

(11-17-2014 06:56 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What is Marshall, let's say, had WVU written on their jerseys with the same exact schedule ?

If WVU played the exact same schedule they wouldn't be in the Big XII. To look at your question philosophically, they'd be ranked higher than Marshall, but no, they wouldn't be in line for one of the playoff spots either.

(11-17-2014 06:40 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 06:19 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm sorry, but Marshall does not deserve playoff consideration. It is what it is.

I tend to agree that I don't think that Marshall is in the top 4 but at some point an undefeated team should regardless of what conference they are in deserves a path to a national championship in some shape, way, or form.

I agree with you, but with just a four team playoff a G5 member would probably need at least three P5 strong OOC victories, have a 5 TD average margin of victory in conference and their CCG opponent to be 10-2 or better and even then would need help from P5 champions being weak.

Expansion is imminent, I think our first hope at a guaranteed path would be under an 8 team format that would include a conditional G5 spot similar to what we had with the BCS(reach the top 12 guaranteed or top 16 AND higher than a P5 champion). I'm not sure we'll even get that much, but they aren't giving us any hope at all with a 4 team playoff and probably not with 6 teams either.

(11-17-2014 08:11 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 06:56 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What is Marshall, let's say, had WVU written on their jerseys with the same exact schedule ?

If WVU played the exact same schedule they wouldn't be in the Big XII. To look at your question philosophically, they'd be ranked higher than Marshall, but no, they wouldn't be in line for one of the playoff spots either.

I think the point is still valid. How many times did a Big East team get put in the NC picture simply because they were a BCS conference.

(11-17-2014 08:18 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 06:40 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 06:19 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm sorry, but Marshall does not deserve playoff consideration. It is what it is.

I tend to agree that I don't think that Marshall is in the top 4 but at some point an undefeated team should regardless of what conference they are in deserves a path to a national championship in some shape, way, or form.

I agree with you, but with just a four team playoff a G5 member would probably need at least three P5 strong OOC victories, have a 5 TD average margin of victory in conference and their CCG opponent to be 10-2 or better and even then would need help from P5 champions being weak.

Expansion is imminent, I think our first hope at a guaranteed path would be under an 8 team format that would include a conditional G5 spot similar to what we had with the BCS(reach the top 12 guaranteed or top 16 AND higher than a P5 champion). I'm not sure we'll even get that much, but they aren't giving us any hope at all with a 4 team playoff and probably not with 6 teams either.

I agree. A conditional G5 playoff spot would placate a lot of people and by putting them against the #1 seed it would satisfy the P5 that there was no legitimate threat to their fiefdom.

Say for instance utsa had the remarkable yr they were suppose to have had before major injuries and so forth. And in their schedule, they beat Houston (which they really did) okie lite, and Arizona. And if they were undefeated like Marshall, would that have been good enough for a play-off consideration?? I still bet that it wouldn't be.

(11-17-2014 11:25 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  Say for instance utsa had the remarkable yr they were suppose to have had before major injuries and so forth. And in their schedule, they beat Houston (which they really did) okie lite, and Arizona. And if they were undefeated like Marshall, would that have been good enough for a play-off consideration?? I still bet that it wouldn't be.

If that were to happen I'm certain the powers that be would have concocted so other BS reason not to rank them. It's all just a scam!!

This is the most frustrating thing, listen to people say "well, you should have just scheduled somebody better". We found out on October 14, 2013 that Louisville wanted to move their game with us. We had two options, tell them no, in which case they would have just paid the buyout and never come to Huntington, or say yes, get the game in 2016 plus they threw in a basketball game that gave us a good road payout against a top tier program. That was a pretty easy decision.

The situation it put us in is that we were 10 1/2 months away from the start of the 2014 season and had an open date. Our AD tried to find a good opponent to replace Louisville, but we had to have the first game of any series be in Huntington or we would have only had 5 home games. Contrary to what seems to be the opinion of some, you can't just pick up the phone and tell Notre Dame, Ohio State or even wvu that they have to show up at your place in 11 months.

We tried to see if Purdue could move their game up in Huntington from 15 to 14, but their schedule was set. Your only option at that point is to find a FCS and pay them to come. We went through a massive reseating process for 2014 and playing only 5 home games would have made a lot of people very angry, provided we could have even found a one and done that late in the process.

We just got screwed by realignment. It cost us the Louisville game, it cost us playing UCF, ECU, Memphis and Houston. It doesn't help that no one in the east has had a good year. MTSU could have really helped out by going 8-4, or beating Minnesota. ODU could have beat a horrible Vandy team, something to give the conference a little more respect. At least La Tech will give us a quality opponent in the championship game if they win the next two. With our luck, they'll lose to ODU and come in ranked in the 70s instead of the 40s. People who bag on our schedule on this board need to realize that you are two thirds of our schedule. If that part of our schedule is weak, that's on you, not on us.

That may sound harsh, but it's the truth.

(11-17-2014 05:59 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:17 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  If they would have scheduled and beaten a ranked team they would be in the top 10.. Its their own fault

And just how do you schedule a ranked team? You know 3,4,5 years in advance that a team will be ranked in the year you play them? You know that a Miami of Ohio that won the MAC the year they were scheduled would be at the bottom of the MAC the year you played them? You know that a ranked UCF and Louisville would be gone off your schedule due to realignment that wasn't a whisper when the OOC Louisville was scheduled? You know that a heated rivalry with ECU was blooming and would also be taken away by the same realignment and that they would be ranked this year?

Perhaps if UAB wasn't Jekyll and Hyde this year we would be playing a ranked team. Or were you referring to P5 as ranked teams? They all aren't ranked. Most aren't ranked. But I'm glad to see you've bought into the mantra that all P5 are better and must be scheduled.

At least you can root for Alabama after they kill your school you ignorant ****.

Wow someones butt hurt.. LOL

Screw a MAC team, screw akron, screw the rest of the OOC opponents none of them are worth two *****. All MU had to do was schedule and beat ONE decent p5 team and they would be in much better shape.

Boo hoo.. guess there will be an undefeated team left out of the playoff and most likely top 10. It is what it is. Are they deserving? We will never know because of a schedule full of cupcakes and a less than mediocre conference.

Might sound harsh, but its the truth..