Not at all. He is being a dick too. I was about to point that out as well, but there it is.

Marshall doesn't deserve to go to the playoff.

They may very well be good enough, but we will probably never know because their best win is arguably MTSU, maybe Rice.

Yes, Marshall has dominated and yes they are very good. But to those who opinion matters, they've proven nothing because of a truly, truly weak schedule.

The "proof" has to be in the "pudding." Unfortunately there is no proof and with this schedule, creating proof is going to "prove" impossible.

Hopefully Marshall fans don't think I'm slighting them, because I'm not. Y'all are a very good team and by far the best in the conference. But as far as the playoff, there is no way you can even be considered. I wish it were different, but it appears your AD failed you with this cupcake schedule, although at the same time you're #18 in the nation so maybe not.

(11-18-2014 10:45 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Not at all. He is being a dick too. I was about to point that out as well, but there it is.

I do apologize for making it seem like I lumped all UAB fans together. It is just tiring to hear this crap over and over, especially from our own conference mates. It only reinforces the overwhelming bias we are ALL facing.

Again, it's fine to say we won't get the Access spot. It may be true, but it is unwarranted to feed the machine from within. Like it or not, we are in this together. We are all getting screwed, and this type of logic only serves to support the status quo.

(11-18-2014 10:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:04 AM)WEARE Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 09:54 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 05:01 AM)WEARE Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 12:51 AM)blazed247 Wrote:  Wow someones butt hurt.. LOL

Screw a MAC team, screw akron, screw the rest of the OOC opponents none of them are worth two *****. All MU had to do was schedule and beat ONE decent p5 team and they would be in much better shape.

Boo hoo.. guess there will be an undefeated team left out of the playoff and most likely top 10. It is what it is. Are they deserving? We will never know because of a schedule full of cupcakes and a less than mediocre conference.

Might sound harsh, but its the truth..

Add screw a UAB...

I encourage you to stand by your principles. If Marshall gets the Access Bowl, start a petition getting 2,000 signatures (no outside help this time) that you want no part of any of the revenues. If we aren't deserving, what is UAB? How have you helped football in this conference? Start looking in the mirror for the real problem. Are you deserving? I think we all know the answer.

Might sound harsh, but it's the truth.

There are a lot more UAB fans than this one guy. Taking cheap shots at our program right now really isn't cool. Just my opinion.

I know he is just one fan. On the same token, is it cool for him to take his shot at Marshall? Again, I actually support UAB. I don't want to lose your team from our conference, but you cant ***** about a weak schedule if you are on it. My comment was specific to him in regards to his earlier pontification.

He can say you have a weak schedule because you do. We are well aware that we contribute to this. If you look at it by any objective measure, it is very weak. I am well aware of the facts that made it this way, and I feel bad for you guys because I believe this may be the best G5 team since Boise, but you will never get your fair chance. I understand why though. You can't set the precedent that if you go undefeated you automatically walk into the playoff.

And your comment wasn't specific to him because it was a shot at UAB. That makes it specific to UAB.(talking about the signatures).

I am really hoping you guys win out and get the access bowl. I'd like to see you play against one of these teams and see how it plays out on the field.

this

Except I am hoping that you do not win out. I hope UAB hands the herd a big fat L on Saturday

I honestly don't know of one Marshall fan that I've heard talking about us being remotely close to deserving a playoff spot. I do think it sucks that there is even a discussion that we could not get the Access Bowl spot if we win out. Looking at Boise and CSU's schedules just aren't that impressive when you look at who they've beaten and by how much. They've each had close games against very mediocre teams. CSU is being propped up by a P5 win against a decent Boston College team, but outside of that they just don't have much to stand on in my opinion.

(11-18-2014 10:44 AM)WEARE Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:36 AM)blazed247 Wrote:  EVERY OTHER CUSA TEAM HAS PLAYED ATLEAST ONE SCHOOL IN A P5 CONFERENCE, EXCEPT MARSHALL. I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT!!!

If you haven't pieced this together, I don't care what you want to hear. When you run off at the mouth, expect a little blow back. As you said...quit crying.

Easy fix. 16 game playoff where each conference champion has an automatic bid with 6 at large teams.

(11-18-2014 11:26 AM)Herdon2007 Wrote:  I honestly don't know of one Marshall fan that I've heard talking about us being remotely close to deserving a playoff spot. I do think it sucks that there is even a discussion that we could not get the Access Bowl spot if we win out. Looking at Boise and CSU's schedules just aren't that impressive when you look at who they've beaten and by how much. They've each had close games against very mediocre teams. CSU is being propped up by a P5 win against a decent Boston College team, but outside of that they just don't have much to stand on in my opinion.

To be fair we don't know what the committee thinks of Marshall or any other G5 team. I don't think there is much competition from Boise, and ECU is gone now. At this point, it's marshalls to lose in my opinion.

I honestly think Marshall not being ranked in the top 25 is a statement from the committee. It isn't about the conference, it's about the OOC schedule. If any of us want to be ranked by that damn committee, it is likely going to take a minimum of 2 p5 wins.

Eff the P5 and G5 designations.

Damn ESPN and the money schools are shoving it down our throats, and making us like it.

Beating Candybuilt is no better than beating Middle Tennessee, most years.

Any undefeated team deserves a shot. Simply for the fact that no one knows heir ceiling. They could be the best in the nation, or maybe just 20th best. You never know but is a hell of an accomplishment and earns a shot IMO. MAC, sunbelt, aac, cusa, ? mwc or independent.

(11-18-2014 10:59 AM)blazed247 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  He can say you have a weak schedule because you do. We are well aware that we contribute to this. If you look at it by any objective measure, it is very weak. I am well aware of the facts that made it this way, and I feel bad for you guys because I believe this may be the best G5 team since Boise, but you will never get your fair chance. I understand why though. You can't set the precedent that if you go undefeated you automatically walk into the playoff.

And your comment wasn't specific to him because it was a shot at UAB. That makes it specific to UAB.(talking about the signatures).

I am really hoping you guys win out and get the access bowl. I'd like to see you play against one of these teams and see how it plays out on the field.

this

Except I am hoping that you do not win out. I hope UAB hands the herd a big fat L on Saturday

You cannot hope to see Marshall in the Access Bowl and hope UAB beats them, the two are mutually exclusive.

(11-18-2014 11:38 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  Easy fix. 16 game playoff where each conference champion has an automatic bid with 6 at large teams.

Like I said when I started this thread they could have done the playoff structure the right
Way but they did not want to..

Boise St got too popular under the old system
I am so sick of hearing this strength of schedule
Crap.
You play your conference schedule
Then its whoever will agree to play you.

Also just when you think you have an agreement
With a p5 team they can buy you out.....also
The p5 team may suck the year you play them.

Also don't forget 99% of the time you are going
To have to play that top 25 team at their place.

FBS Football is the only sport on any level that you can't tell your
Players win every game and you will be the champs

Also you don't think its just a wee bit unfair when you are recruiting
A kid that all a P5 school has to say, why consider a g5 school they will
Never play in the playoff...

A playoff could have been designed where your top teams got byes and your g5 conference champs had to play another g5 champ to gain access but they wanted no part of that.
The g5 did not even have one freaking rep on the playoff Comm.

(11-18-2014 01:22 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 11:38 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  Easy fix. 16 game playoff where each conference champion has an automatic bid with 6 at large teams.

Like I said when I started this thread they could have done the playoff structure the right
Way but they did not want to..

Boise St got too popular under the old system
I am so sick of hearing this strength of schedule
Crap.
You play your conference schedule
Then its whoever will agree to play you.

Also just when you think you have an agreement
With a p5 team they can buy you out.....also
The p5 team may suck the year you play them.

Also don't forget 99% of the time you are going
To have to play that top 25 team at their place.

FBS Football is the only sport on any level that you can't tell your
Players win every game and you will be the champs

Also you don't think its just a wee bit unfair when you are recruiting
A kid that all a P5 school has to say, why consider a g5 school they will
Never play in the playoff...

A playoff could have been designed where your top teams got byes and your g5 conference champs had to play another g5 champ to gain access but they wanted no part of that.
The g5 did not even have one freaking rep on the playoff Comm.

Expansion is coming.

(11-17-2014 04:02 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  I think it is unreal that Marshall is not even in the top 25 for the playoff
What should happen is any team no matter what conference if they are undefeated and not one of the top 4. You get to go as a play in bid. The play ins could be played out in Dec before the Final 4 in Jan.

They have set this up so no g5 never makes it in.

They could have just set up 8 access bowls and just invited the 4 winners of
Those 8 games to the playoff.

They had a chance to do it right they got it so wrong
Who on the commettie is even from a g5 conference

FBS football is the only sport on any level where you can't tell your players if you win every game
You will be the champs

Your joking right?

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(11-18-2014 01:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:22 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 11:38 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  Easy fix. 16 game playoff where each conference champion has an automatic bid with 6 at large teams.

Like I said when I started this thread they could have done the playoff structure the right
Way but they did not want to..

Boise St got too popular under the old system
I am so sick of hearing this strength of schedule
Crap.
You play your conference schedule
Then its whoever will agree to play you.

Also just when you think you have an agreement
With a p5 team they can buy you out.....also
The p5 team may suck the year you play them.

Also don't forget 99% of the time you are going
To have to play that top 25 team at their place.

FBS Football is the only sport on any level that you can't tell your
Players win every game and you will be the champs

Also you don't think its just a wee bit unfair when you are recruiting
A kid that all a P5 school has to say, why consider a g5 school they will
Never play in the playoff...

A playoff could have been designed where your top teams got byes and your g5 conference champs had to play another g5 champ to gain access but they wanted no part of that.
The g5 did not even have one freaking rep on the playoff Comm.

Expansion is coming.

But will expansion include non P5 teams? The beauty of the NCAA Basketball Tournament is that unknowns have a chance. Football should have the same.

(11-18-2014 01:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:59 AM)blazed247 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  He can say you have a weak schedule because you do. We are well aware that we contribute to this. If you look at it by any objective measure, it is very weak. I am well aware of the facts that made it this way, and I feel bad for you guys because I believe this may be the best G5 team since Boise, but you will never get your fair chance. I understand why though. You can't set the precedent that if you go undefeated you automatically walk into the playoff.

And your comment wasn't specific to him because it was a shot at UAB. That makes it specific to UAB.(talking about the signatures).

I am really hoping you guys win out and get the access bowl. I'd like to see you play against one of these teams and see how it plays out on the field.

this

Except I am hoping that you do not win out. I hope UAB hands the herd a big fat L on Saturday

You cannot hope to see Marshall in the Access Bowl and hope UAB beats them, the two are mutually exclusive.

Youre right. I agree with everything except the last paragraph.

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(11-18-2014 02:39 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:59 AM)blazed247 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  He can say you have a weak schedule because you do. We are well aware that we contribute to this. If you look at it by any objective measure, it is very weak. I am well aware of the facts that made it this way, and I feel bad for you guys because I believe this may be the best G5 team since Boise, but you will never get your fair chance. I understand why though. You can't set the precedent that if you go undefeated you automatically walk into the playoff.

And your comment wasn't specific to him because it was a shot at UAB. That makes it specific to UAB.(talking about the signatures).

I am really hoping you guys win out and get the access bowl. I'd like to see you play against one of these teams and see how it plays out on the field.

this

Except I am hoping that you do not win out. I hope UAB hands the herd a big fat L on Saturday

You cannot hope to see Marshall in the Access Bowl and hope UAB beats them, the two are mutually exclusive.

Youre right. I agree with everything except the last paragraph.

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I'm right too. Pull the plank out of your eye. It tends to clear the vision and tone down the underserved hubris.

Our fans asked for the schedule that we had.. Sure Louisville being moved hurt, but when the schedule was made CUSA was still really spread out and ECU was our closest team or fans could travel too.. They begged, and whined and cried for drivable away games, so much so that some even said we should go back to the MAC.. So Hamrick gave them what they asked for and went out and scheduled 3 opponents that would give us drivable away games.. But, he did so with UofL on the schedule and also assuming ECU and UCF would be on the schedule as well.. If those things wouldn't have changed it wouldn't have been that bad.. But, it is what it is.

Pull the crap ooc games out of the herds schedule and replace a few with some decent teams and they might be in consideration for the playoff... oops too late.

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(11-18-2014 03:37 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  Pull the crap ooc games out of the herds schedule and replace a few with some decent teams and they might be in consideration for the playoff... oops too late.

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Okay, cupcake...