(11-10-2014 01:38 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-10-2014 12:32 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote: (11-09-2014 10:00 PM)bamaEagle Wrote: So, a Georgia Southern fan posts that we receive votes in the AP poll and if things go our way we might could crack the top 25. Why on Earth are any fans of any other teams on here bashing that? It is good for our conference. I really don't understand the hate on this one. I expect you guys to want us to lose conference games, I would be concerned if you didn't, just not sure why anyone wouldn't want a SBC team in the top 25. I would absolutely love if Louisiana Lafayette or stAte were ranked or were receiving votes in the poll.
ArkSt has one quality win ( Utah State )
ULL has one quality win ( ArkSt )
GaSo has zero quality wins.
GaSo has played the weakest strength of schedule in the Sun Belt( 161 ).
GaSo's highest quality win, is 123rd USA.
GaSo's second highest quality win, TxSt ( 126th ), was by only three.
GaSo can help the conference and their own case by beating Navy ( Sagarin 83rd ).
By Belt standards, beating Navy would be a quality win.
But by national ranking standards, it would not, because Navy is ranked lower than GaSo and has a losing record.
In a national conversation it might be better for GaSo not to be in the spotlight because then the punditry will ask - 'Who have they beaten?' and the answers are not particularly good for either GaSo or the Belt.
Now, GaSo has had a remarkable debut.
And they've displayed quality, particularly on offense.
And I've flipped - I think it's pretty clear that GaSo IS in the top three of the conference and I'd rather see them in a Bowl Slot than either USA or TxSt, both of whom GaSo has beaten.
And if both win out, a ULL-GaSo NO Bowl would solve the championship issue ( for this year anyway ) and probably draw fans and buzz.
But whoever voted for GaSo is probably not doing it based on the merits.
That's not hate, just looking at what pundits will.
Say what you want, but the reality is that the pundits around the country are more impressed with us losing on the road in the last 20 seconds to a ranked GT team than wins over Utah St or Ark St.
Your analysis above is fine, but it is only half the story. You must also look at the losses.
No they do not, do you guys just arbitrarily pull stuff out your backsides and declare it fact because it comes from your circle of thought?
I watched disussions on the College Playoffs this weekend on ESPN and Fox Sports, not a single person brought up this nonsence of close losses on the road. In fact if its part of the criteria, its minor indeed. But let me dispel any more thought that close losses on the road are more important then strenght of schedule in deciding the P5 College Playoffs.
Taken directly from
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/fr...-questions
How are the teams that go to the playoff determined?
The four teams that go to the College Football Playoff are determined by the College Football Playoff Selection Committee. The selection committee will choose the four teams for the playoff based on
strength of schedule, head-to-head results against common opponents, championships won[/B} and other factors.
Now close road losses might be involved in "other factors", but it clearly weighs little in the determining qualifying criteria.
Clearly stated on this website [B]strength of schedule, head-to-head results against common opponents, championships won
The perfact example of this was the discussion this weekend of Mississippi State's out of conference schedule as reason not to vote for them as the clear #1 in the polls. Another person mentioned that if they run the table, they would have more quality wins in conference against SEC opponents then Florida State, Oregon, TCU or Ohio State. There was no mention of quality losses folks, it matters little outside of Statesboro.
Another point, regardless of what you think there was no discussion of GSouthern for the non P5 slot. In fact, Marshall and several MWC programs were mentioned. GSouthern was no even mentioned period.
Is getting Top 25 votes good for your program and the conference, yes! But outside of the one coach, AD or beat writer that voted for you in this weeks poll, you have zero shot with your schedule with 10 wins. I can understand its a big deal to Southern fans because in your first year of FBS play you have recieved a Top 25 vote. Truth is UL and Astate have recieved multiple votes recently.
Bottomline, you are nowhere in the discussion and neither is UL or Astate. You win out the rest of the season and you own a championship period, share or not. Those are tangible results that no one can argue with period. But save the close road loss crap, its stupid and not even remotely accurate.