IF Marshal goes undefeated AND they get awarded the access bowl - the message it sends is that none of the rest of us need to play anyone with a pulse in the OOC part of our schedules. Unless they just can't avoid it - I don't think the committee will take the Marshall route. (Nothing against Marshall - but - TA is right - you just haven't got much of a resume.)

(11-07-2014 04:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:48 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You should be convinced. The CFP rules state that one Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest ranked G5 champ, period, and that ranking need not be in the top 25.

The CFP chief was specifically asked what would happen if no G5 team is ranked in the top 25 and he said the committee would keep ranking beyond that point until a G5 champ was reached.

I heard a talk show the other day (can't remember which one) but they said that the committee wouldn't keep ranking teams after 25 until they reached the first G5, but rather rank the top 25, then if no G5 is in it, simply take the 5 potentials and pick who they feel is the highest (most deserving) rated among those 5. In other words, the G5 rep may not even have an associated "ranking".

That's fine with me. I just wish they would let us know what they are thinking, week to week. Guess that's too much trouble, though.

I agree, brother...

No G5 will participate this year since ECU fell down.

(11-08-2014 06:19 AM)willhclark Wrote:  No G5 will participate this year since ECU fell down.

In the access bowl slot? It's guaranteed.

(11-08-2014 09:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 06:19 AM)willhclark Wrote:  No G5 will participate this year since ECU fell down.

In the access bowl slot? It's guaranteed.

You are misinformed! The Imperial Committee is required to select a G-5 TEAM for a slot in the Access Bowl! Now it may not be MARSHALL but it's gonna be somebody from G-5! Heck might even be Memphis we just won't be informed as to how the Elitist CARTEL-5 Connected Bozos pick the lowly team, if they don't rate one of us in their arbitrary Poll.

(11-07-2014 05:05 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  IF Marshal goes undefeated AND they get awarded the access bowl - the message it sends is that none of the rest of us need to play anyone with a pulse in the OOC part of our schedules. Unless they just can't avoid it - I don't think the committee will take the Marshall route. (Nothing against Marshall - but - TA is right - you just haven't got much of a resume.)

Agreed. They WILL NOT reward scheduling cupcakes so I think Marshall is out.

(11-08-2014 12:46 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 09:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 06:19 AM)willhclark Wrote:  No G5 will participate this year since ECU fell down.

In the access bowl slot? It's guaranteed.

You are misinformed! The Imperial Committee is required to select a G-5 TEAM for a slot in the Access Bowl! Now it may not be MARSHALL but it's gonna be somebody from G-5! Heck might even be Memphis we just won't be informed as to how the Elitist CARTEL-5 Connected Bozos pick the lowly team, if they don't rate one of us in their arbitrary Poll.

Dude, calm down and read my post again. You are agreeing with me. I said the access slot is guaranteed to a G5. That's why I questioned the guy.

(11-08-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 05:05 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  IF Marshal goes undefeated AND they get awarded the access bowl - the message it sends is that none of the rest of us need to play anyone with a pulse in the OOC part of our schedules. Unless they just can't avoid it - I don't think the committee will take the Marshall route. (Nothing against Marshall - but - TA is right - you just haven't got much of a resume.)

Agreed. They WILL NOT reward scheduling cupcakes so I think Marshall is out.

They may not have a choice. ECU crapped the bed, CSU needs help, and Boise has 2 losses right now.

Marshall has a weak SOS, we get it people! But you guys can hate all you want, every other G5 team has stunk up the field. Marshall is playing cupcakes but is winning and due to process of elimination the access bowl belongs to Marshall. The best part of it is that the aac is O U T.

(11-16-2014 06:09 AM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  Marshall has a weak SOS, we get it people! But you guys can hate all you want, every other G5 team has stunk up the field. Marshall is playing cupcakes but is winning and due to process of elimination the access bowl belongs to Marshall. The best part of it is that the aac is O U T.

Not sure how your figure that... Nor is the MW out. Marshall has a long way to go to get the access bowl spot... lol

(11-16-2014 06:09 AM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  Marshall has a weak SOS, we get it people! But you guys can hate all you want, every other G5 team has stunk up the field. Marshall is playing cupcakes but is winning and due to process of elimination the access bowl belongs to Marshall. The best part of it is that the aac is O U T.

Not necessarily. The chances may be slim but if Marshall and Colorado State/Boise loses in their CCG it could very well be an AAC team.

Marshall will win out and get the bid, unless Boise loses and Colorado State wins the MWC.

(11-16-2014 09:54 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Marshall will win out and get the bid, unless Boise loses and Colorado State wins the MWC.

They might and they might well be a top 20 team. We have no way of knowing how good they really are. I expect their best test will be La Tech in the Championship game if that pans out. If they beat Tech soundly? They might get the nod. It will however set an early precedent in this new system that playing a challenging schedule is not important....wins are. That will fuel programs to rethink their scheduling.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. Im personally fine with Marshall getting the spot. I believe they are that good. I do however think that the ramifications of this could have negative consequences in the seasons to come. The committee has a lot to think about.

(11-07-2014 04:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:48 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You should be convinced. The CFP rules state that one Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest ranked G5 champ, period, and that ranking need not be in the top 25.

The CFP chief was specifically asked what would happen if no G5 team is ranked in the top 25 and he said the committee would keep ranking beyond that point until a G5 champ was reached.

I heard a talk show the other day (can't remember which one) but they said that the committee wouldn't keep ranking teams after 25 until they reached the first G5, but rather rank the top 25, then if no G5 is in it, simply take the 5 potentials and pick who they feel is the highest (most deserving) rated among those 5. In other words, the G5 rep may not even have an associated "ranking".

That's fine with me. I just wish they would let us know what they are thinking, week to week. Guess that's too much trouble, though.

What if their "feeling" is that they would prefer a red-colored team to face the Blue team that already was placed at the Peach Bowl? What good would knowing their thought process be then? That's why I say, better not to know, and just win every game you can. Let the Doritos fall where they may.

(11-16-2014 04:26 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:48 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  You should be convinced. The CFP rules state that one Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest ranked G5 champ, period, and that ranking need not be in the top 25.

The CFP chief was specifically asked what would happen if no G5 team is ranked in the top 25 and he said the committee would keep ranking beyond that point until a G5 champ was reached.

I heard a talk show the other day (can't remember which one) but they said that the committee wouldn't keep ranking teams after 25 until they reached the first G5, but rather rank the top 25, then if no G5 is in it, simply take the 5 potentials and pick who they feel is the highest (most deserving) rated among those 5. In other words, the G5 rep may not even have an associated "ranking".

That's fine with me. I just wish they would let us know what they are thinking, week to week. Guess that's too much trouble, though.

What if their "feeling" is that they would prefer a red-colored team to face the Blue team that already was placed at the Peach Bowl? What good would knowing their thought process be then? That's why I say, better not to know, and just win every game you can. Let the Doritos fall where they may.

Then why do they bother ranking 25 teams for a 4 team playoff, and start their poll 6 weeks before the season is over, when they make their final decisions? B/c people are interested in what they are thinking.

Same goes for the G5 access spot. Hell, we've been debating it on these boards since preseason. That's why.

If Marshall does not break into the CFp poll top 25 this week, I believe they are saying that they will almost certainly not choose Marshall.

There's more than a little rumbling that Doc is likely on his way out of Huntington to greener pastures (pun intended). Which means that Marshall probably will be without a coach in the post season. Sucks to be you.

(11-16-2014 09:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If Marshall does not break into the CFp poll top 25 this week, I believe they are saying that they will almost certainly not choose Marshall.

This is exactly the way I see it. If Marshall isn't there this week, then the selection committee has no intentions of awarding the access bowl to Marshall. Instead, it will go to either Boise or Colorado St and we'll all have been put on notice that strength of schedule is huge in the eyes of the selection committee. This should make it much easier for P5 conference members to schedule 8 home games every year. We'll be left with no choice but to schedule away games with those guys. That is, we will if we want to be in the running for the access bowl.

(11-17-2014 07:11 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 09:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If Marshall does not break into the CFp poll top 25 this week, I believe they are saying that they will almost certainly not choose Marshall.

This is exactly the way I see it. If Marshall isn't there this week, then the selection committee has no intentions of awarding the access bowl to Marshall. Instead, it will go to either Boise or Colorado St and we'll all have been put on notice that strength of schedule is huge in the eyes of the selection committee. This should make it much easier for P5 conference members to schedule 8 home games every year. We'll be left with no choice but to schedule away games with those guys. That is, we will if we want to be in the running for the access bowl.

OR, we will see more games amongst the AAC, MWC, and C-USA. Marshall could have done itself a huge favor to schedule one American and one MWC opponent, instead of half of the MAC East division.

(11-17-2014 07:11 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 09:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If Marshall does not break into the CFp poll top 25 this week, I believe they are saying that they will almost certainly not choose Marshall.

This is exactly the way I see it. If Marshall isn't there this week, then the selection committee has no intentions of awarding the access bowl to Marshall. Instead, it will go to either Boise or Colorado St and we'll all have been put on notice that strength of schedule is huge in the eyes of the selection committee. This should make it much easier for P5 conference members to schedule 8 home games every year. We'll be left with no choice but to schedule away games with those guys. That is, we will if we want to be in the running for the access bowl.

The Selection Committee is just calling it like they see it. Before the Rice win, Marshall's best win was over MTSU (now 5-5) at home. Marshall added a decent win over the weekend. UAB and Western Kentucky will help Marshall's resume as well - if they finish bowl-eligible. The Herd can also improve its resume with a win over LA Tech in 3 weeks.

Ultimately, I do think the Selection Committee takes Boise St. or Colorado St. Both still have 8 or 9-win opponents to finish the regular season (Utah St. and Air Force, respectively) and the division winner will likely face an 8-win Nevada team - who beat Washington St. and BYU and played close at Arizona - in the MWC championship.