Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

Send them to the SoCon... They'll fit right in...

(10-23-2014 10:02 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  don't forget about the fumble that wasn't a fumble that ark state recovered after they scored 2 in a row. That very well could have changed the game.

Say what you want about the officiating crew, the calls, what could have been. On Tuesday night the Cajuns fielded the better team and won the game.

(10-23-2014 11:34 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 10:02 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  don't forget about the fumble that wasn't a fumble that ark state recovered after they scored 2 in a row. That very well could have changed the game.

Say what you want about the officiating crew, the calls, what could have been. On Tuesday night the Cajuns fielded the better team and won the game.

I'm not saying you lost because of that. But you had just scored 2 straight TD's. If you get that fumble back and score, it is not a 1 possession game. Instead ULL gets it back and scores to widen the gap. Who knows if you still win, but that was a pivotal play.

(10-23-2014 11:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

Thing is, complaining about the Gordon play is essentially complaining that the NCAA rule is wrong. The officials didn't miss the call according to the rule book. Its the rule itself you don't like.

(10-23-2014 11:52 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 11:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

Thing is, complaining about the Gordon play is essentially complaining that the NCAA rule is wrong. The officials didn't miss the call according to the rule book. Its the rule itself you don't like.

No, I'm very clear about where I stand...I can't think of many better examples of a players forward momentum being stopped. He even paused long enough so our defenders quit looking at him. He looks around then takes off again, that is momentum stopped. When those plays normally happen like that the motion of the play never stops. I think they got both calls wrong and you won't change my mind on that. Your boy J D agrees with me also and he was closer than you or me.

(10-23-2014 11:52 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 11:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

Thing is, complaining about the Gordon play is essentially complaining that the NCAA rule is wrong. The officials didn't miss the call according to the rule book. Its the rule itself you don't like.

I grabbed a photo someone posted with a view from the opposite end zone of the play and you can count 16 ASU players close to the hash marks of the field with the runner still short of the 15 yard line. I guess there were a few State players who thought the play was over as well. :-)

(10-23-2014 12:05 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 11:52 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 11:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

Thing is, complaining about the Gordon play is essentially complaining that the NCAA rule is wrong. The officials didn't miss the call according to the rule book. Its the rule itself you don't like.

I grabbed a photo someone posted with a view from the opposite end zone of the play and you can count 16 ASU players close to the hash marks of the field with the runner still short of the 15 yard line. I guess there were a few State players who thought the play was over as well. :-)

Everybody but Mike Gordon and the officials thought the play was over. They didn't blow the whistle, so we'll take what we get.

I'm surprised we didn't get a sideline warning for that.

The replay is conclusive. Even if I admit to a touch of homerism, the RB was totally stopped. He actually had to move backwards a little to get up from the defensive guy. If thats not the definition of stopping forward progress, I don't know what is. Just glad that we can complain about it from the winning side. Had we lost by a score the meltdown would be huge.
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(10-23-2014 11:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Both judgement calls but funny how the one that went for you was correct and the one that went against you was wrong. They were both wrong calls. The same crew who couldn't keep the correct downs. The same crew that managed to make a game last 4 and half hours and 1 team only threw the ball 17 times.

They were different plays. There is no reason one isn't the correct call and the other wrong.

One was reviewed and confirmed (not just "the play stands") and the other was not reviewed because of a quick whistle.

I don't blame the outcome on either call. They just really screwed up one and amazingly did the right thing on the other.

(10-23-2014 11:34 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 10:02 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  don't forget about the fumble that wasn't a fumble that ark state recovered after they scored 2 in a row. That very well could have changed the game.

Say what you want about the officiating crew, the calls, what could have been. On Tuesday night the Cajuns fielded the better team and won the game.

I haven't seen many people argue otherwise.

There is no reason they couldn't be wrong on both and they were. They were wrong from one extreme to the other

I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

(10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote:  I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.

(10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote:  I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.

Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.

As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.

A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.

Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.

(10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote:  I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.

Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.

As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.

A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.

Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.

I'd like to see a defender go over there and wrap him up while he is laying belly to belly with a 300 pound man. It's not like you can go over and just touch him.


Our "rivalry" with ulm has been shoved down our throats by the conference not the fan base. There is some dislike there but our rivalry with stAte and USA are much longer and deeper. Football we have won 5 of 6 or 6 of 7, baseball I think we have beaten them 12 in a row. I personally hate south al more than anyone. When I say hate I don't mean literally... You know sports hate, but I think our players see stAte as a huge rivalry in football and they have for a long time.

(10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote:  I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.

Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.

As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.

A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.

Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.

ULM/ULL seems a little manufactured to be a rivalry right now. Now, it will be a rivalry quick if ULM starts having more success in that series.

(10-23-2014 01:26 PM)GaryRWReport Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:51 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 12:47 PM)CatMom Wrote:  I felt they got it right (and I'm pretty harsh on officiating crews). We've had a play like that before and I've seen it called like that in the NFL. Regardless of what you or I or the players or the coaches thought or saw..........you always play until the officials call the play dead (whistle) always!

There is no way of knowing for sure but if one of our defenders "plays to the whistle" and comes in a tags the guy...I promise you we gat a 15 yard late hit. Fortunately it didn't effect the outcome just made it less embarrassing. For as much as they preach about safety ( which I think is a crock) the forward momentum rule should be addressed. The guy was about as defenseless as he could have been but we were expected to hit him to finish the play.

Bogus, if you spear a man or "tag" him in the way you referring then yeah he probably gets an unsportsmanlike. If you go over wrap him up and ensure hes down since there was no whistle then theres no harm. Calling it a bad call because the player would have been prevented from a crushing blow is a bit disingenuous.

As for the second fumble I still dont understand what possesses officials to blow the plays dead so fast, they have replay to fall back on.

A State got man handled on the D line and just missed too many tackles in the back end, good game marred with bad officials who failed to keep the game under control.

Just curious if the ULL fans feel their on field rivalry with A State is "bigger" than the rivalry with ULM.

Thank you. I was writing something similar to this reply but I hit a wrong key and wiped it out. Didn't feel like redoing it. Glad someone sees it the same as I do.

If a guy pushes him hard or throws a shoulder, hits him in anyway we get flagged. I didn't say spear him, but any way you hit that guy it's a flag. We had 4 morons calling that game.

(10-23-2014 01:46 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  If a guy pushes him hard or throws a shoulder, hits him in anyway we get flagged. I didn't say spear him, but any way you hit that guy it's a flag. We had 4 morons calling that game.

I just disagree, if one defender goes over and puts any effort into keeping him in place the whistle blows. Agree to disagree and thanks for the reply about the rivalry. I had that feeling but wanted someone from your side to confirm or correct.

Seems the off field rivalry with ULM is bigger than any on field dislike.

As for the spear comment I realize that isnt the exact word you used but its the impression I got reading your comments.