Fire Saban ....he lost a game to a school from Miss for God sake

(10-16-2014 12:32 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  The notion to move to a bigger conference is a pipe dream and it is all the fault of the alumni. We are the ones that control the future of the program, and we have wasted the opportunity. When we don't support the success through donations and attendance, we will never be more than a MAC powerhouse. And now, because of poor coaching, we merely are a MAC run of mill team. Coming off the Orange Bowl season, Huskie stadium had to be filled each and every home game. It wasn't. Not even close. Very sad and we are the ones to blame.

Yep. We just do not have the draw power. Couple that with the fact that the Jiff regime set us back by not capitalizing on the Orange Bowl hype and mania. That was the time to really market like crazy and increase season ticket sales. That did not happen one bit. It's like the entire Athletics Dept. went on vacation after the Orange Bowl. (I know that they didn't attend the basketball games, that's for sure.)

Again the tv contract is the draw for NIU, gettin into the 8M Chicagoland homes


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The only reason NIU isn't attractive to another conference is attendance. If NIU had the success it had and was drawing like ECU, they would be in a bigger conference.

Yes ole JC Dbag in charge still has his stench left here. The guy dressed like a complete bum. Then he leaves and takes Shelly with him!!!

Nobody picked up off the Orange Bowl also we could have had the Iowa game at home and that would have helped big time. Jeff wanted the money and it blew up in his face, that could have added much more for season tickets.

(10-15-2014 01:04 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I was expecting 7- 5 or 8 - 4 from this team as were most of us. We knew it wasn't going to be like the last few years.

Lol and I got crucified for saying that exact same thing.

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:16 PM)oilgasusa Wrote:  We have had 4 years of great football that got us notoriety around the country. This occurred at a critical time when teams were jumping conferences and the Power 5 was created. The future will be 2 tiers of FBS. The only way we make Tier 1 is a long shot, but we do have a shot. The reality is we need to somehow get in the Big 12. Only way we can do that is we have to keep winning 10 games a year and stay in the limelight. We also have to enlarge and upgrade the stadium big time. I would say the odds of doing all this is 10% at best. Otherwise we are right back to a 6 & 6 team in a half ass Tier 2 conference. Hey, but at least we have a chance with the right AD and coach (Carey is not the coach, hope I'm wrong).

There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:16 PM)oilgasusa Wrote:  We have had 4 years of great football that got us notoriety around the country. This occurred at a critical time when teams were jumping conferences and the Power 5 was created. The future will be 2 tiers of FBS. The only way we make Tier 1 is a long shot, but we do have a shot. The reality is we need to somehow get in the Big 12. Only way we can do that is we have to keep winning 10 games a year and stay in the limelight. We also have to enlarge and upgrade the stadium big time. I would say the odds of doing all this is 10% at best. Otherwise we are right back to a 6 & 6 team in a half ass Tier 2 conference. Hey, but at least we have a chance with the right AD and coach (Carey is not the coach, hope I'm wrong).

There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

(10-18-2014 02:35 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:16 PM)oilgasusa Wrote:  We have had 4 years of great football that got us notoriety around the country. This occurred at a critical time when teams were jumping conferences and the Power 5 was created. The future will be 2 tiers of FBS. The only way we make Tier 1 is a long shot, but we do have a shot. The reality is we need to somehow get in the Big 12. Only way we can do that is we have to keep winning 10 games a year and stay in the limelight. We also have to enlarge and upgrade the stadium big time. I would say the odds of doing all this is 10% at best. Otherwise we are right back to a 6 & 6 team in a half ass Tier 2 conference. Hey, but at least we have a chance with the right AD and coach (Carey is not the coach, hope I'm wrong).

There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

AAC is a total lateral though. I just don't see how that benefits anything. Just more travel for literally no increase in conference

(10-18-2014 03:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 02:35 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:16 PM)oilgasusa Wrote:  We have had 4 years of great football that got us notoriety around the country. This occurred at a critical time when teams were jumping conferences and the Power 5 was created. The future will be 2 tiers of FBS. The only way we make Tier 1 is a long shot, but we do have a shot. The reality is we need to somehow get in the Big 12. Only way we can do that is we have to keep winning 10 games a year and stay in the limelight. We also have to enlarge and upgrade the stadium big time. I would say the odds of doing all this is 10% at best. Otherwise we are right back to a 6 & 6 team in a half ass Tier 2 conference. Hey, but at least we have a chance with the right AD and coach (Carey is not the coach, hope I'm wrong).

There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

AAC is a total lateral though. I just don't see how that benefits anything. Just more travel for literally no increase in conference

Lateral in the sense that it's a G5. The AAC has a lot more respect than the MAC.

(10-18-2014 03:10 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 03:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 02:35 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

AAC is a total lateral though. I just don't see how that benefits anything. Just more travel for literally no increase in conference

Lateral in the sense that it's a G5. The AAC has a lot more respect than the MAC.

I wouldnt consider it lateral at all. Just speaking athletically, its a step up in terms stadium capacity, coaching staff salaries, athletic budget, brand name, bowl portfolio, on the field competitiveness, average recruit star. Not to mention 5 schools just jumped from this conference to a P5 conference.

In a given year does the MAC have a team that is stronger than the AAC? Possible, Yes. Though I think comparing the bottom to the bottom, the AAC > MAC and thus is a deeper better league.

No other conference would want NIU. This thread has been hashed and rehashed a thousand times. Nothing new is ever said. Please stop.

(10-18-2014 03:10 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 03:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 02:35 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 12:26 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  There are no Big 12 chances, sorry to tell ya. The AAC might be accessible and would be a slight upgrade, whether some people believe it or not. There is more credible TV time for football and the basketball is a huge upgrade with multiple NCAA Tourny bids.

Unless we have a 40-45K stadium, the Big 12 will never happen. We can't even fill our 24K stadium as of now!

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

AAC is a total lateral though. I just don't see how that benefits anything. Just more travel for literally no increase in conference

Lateral in the sense that it's a G5. The AAC has a lot more respect than the MAC.

A lot more? Not really in my opinion, it offers no tangible benefit. Just a heck of a lot more travel.

(10-18-2014 05:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 03:10 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 03:09 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 02:35 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 01:36 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes you know it all. Just like in the late 90's where a winning season and bowl game would never happen let alone even thinking of the Orange bowl. People like you with zero vision is why failure is so rampant today.

The goal should be AAC well before even thinking about the B12 on the future road map. The comparison of us and the B12 isnt even close on virtually every level athletically and academically. One step at a time.

AAC is a total lateral though. I just don't see how that benefits anything. Just more travel for literally no increase in conference

Lateral in the sense that it's a G5. The AAC has a lot more respect than the MAC.

A lot more? Not really in my opinion, it offers no tangible benefit. Just a heck of a lot more travel.

What if Sean Frazier himself told you that the BIG 12 wasn't ready to take NIU, but also told you that the AAC would. Would you consider changing conferences, then?