(10-14-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:59 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:52 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Would you put them in over a 1-loss FSU or 1-loss ND?

So who do you root for in that ND-FSU game if you're a Big Ten team hoping to get into the playoff?

If you're the BIG you hope FSU wins BIG then loses at Louisville.

Notre Dame beats FSU and then loses to Arizona State.

I don't want to see Louisville beat Notre Dame.

I agree with two thirds of this.

(10-14-2014 08:47 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 06:47 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Hell they shouldn't even be ranked above ECU right now.

OSU would smoke ECU. VT was Barrett's first game. He isn't the same player now as he was in that game AND VT knew exactly what to do to take advantage of his complete inexperience during that game.

Such a simple mind you have.

Not at all. You really gave little reason as to why you think they would "smoke" ECU. Their defense has been pretty suspect aside from smashing a horrific Kent State team. ECU would score plenty on them, and ECU's defense may not be VT's but it's not Cincy's either. I'm not saying we'd smoke them, but there's nothing I've seen with my own eyes that would lead me to believe they'd smoke ECU.

Well, to be fair...this isn't even the stupidest thing I've read on this forum TODAY, so it has that going for it.

(10-14-2014 09:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 08:47 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 06:47 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Hell they shouldn't even be ranked above ECU right now.

OSU would smoke ECU. VT was Barrett's first game. He isn't the same player now as he was in that game AND VT knew exactly what to do to take advantage of his complete inexperience during that game.

Such a simple mind you have.

Not at all. You really gave little reason as to why you think they would "smoke" ECU. Their defense has been pretty suspect aside from smashing a horrific Kent State team. ECU would score plenty on them, and ECU's defense may not be VT's but it's not Cincy's either. I'm not saying we'd smoke them, but there's nothing I've seen with my own eyes that would lead me to believe they'd smoke ECU.

Ok, so my choice of words was slightly incendiary.

(10-14-2014 10:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 09:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 08:47 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:24 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  OSU would smoke ECU. VT was Barrett's first game. He isn't the same player now as he was in that game AND VT knew exactly what to do to take advantage of his complete inexperience during that game.

Such a simple mind you have.

Not at all. You really gave little reason as to why you think they would "smoke" ECU. Their defense has been pretty suspect aside from smashing a horrific Kent State team. ECU would score plenty on them, and ECU's defense may not be VT's but it's not Cincy's either. I'm not saying we'd smoke them, but there's nothing I've seen with my own eyes that would lead me to believe they'd smoke ECU.

Ok, so my choice of words was slightly incendiary.

You are a world class BIG homer, nothing wrong with that. But ECU's athletes on offense are a mismatch for OSU's DB's big time. Right now on a neutral field without BIG refs, I have ECU. The BIG has 1 football title in the last 44 years and 1 in Bball in the last 25
years.

(10-14-2014 10:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 09:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 08:47 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

Such a simple mind you have.

Not at all. You really gave little reason as to why you think they would "smoke" ECU. Their defense has been pretty suspect aside from smashing a horrific Kent State team. ECU would score plenty on them, and ECU's defense may not be VT's but it's not Cincy's either. I'm not saying we'd smoke them, but there's nothing I've seen with my own eyes that would lead me to believe they'd smoke ECU.

Ok, so my choice of words was slightly incendiary.

You are a world class BIG homer, nothing wrong with that. But ECU's athletes on offense are a mismatch for OSU's DB's big time. Right now on a neutral field without BIG refs, I have ECU. The BIG has 1 football title in the last 44 years and 1 in Bball in the last 25
years.

I talked about OSU vs ECU. That doesn't make me a Big Ten homer in this case. This just makes you a butthurt Cincy fan. Speaking of smoked....so much for that quarterback of yours. Still hurt?

You stating those "statistics" about the Big Ten makes you more of an Anti Big Ten person than me a homer for the Big Ten. Literally, that last sentence had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

Nice try. Keep on hating cincy boy.

(10-14-2014 08:54 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:59 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:52 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Would you put them in over a 1-loss FSU or 1-loss ND?

So who do you root for in that ND-FSU game if you're a Big Ten team hoping to get into the playoff?

If you're the BIG you hope FSU wins BIG then loses at Louisville.

Notre Dame beats FSU and then loses to Arizona State.

I don't want to see Louisville beat Notre Dame.

I agree with two thirds of this.

Unfortunately Terry, this time it is all or nothing. Very kind of you though to show appreciation for ASU.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Barrett fares against Rutgers this week. OSU will win because Rutgers' offense is average at best...but Rutgers' defense could provide Barrett his biggest test since VaTech. I think it will be a very close game.

PSU's defense will test him the next weekend too (especially with a rowdy first half Beaver Stadium crowd at night), but our offense will not be able to score more than 13 against OSU's defense. It won't be a real close game.

(10-14-2014 04:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Would you put them in over a 1-loss FSU or 1-loss ND?

FSU yes, ND no.

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(10-15-2014 10:02 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Would you put them in over a 1-loss FSU or 1-loss ND?

FSU yes, ND no.

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What's really going to matter is how many quality wins each team has. If they're looking at the end of November at two one-loss teams, and one team has beaten four "ranked" teams and the other has beaten only two, that might tip the scales. Just look at the AP poll this week -- the reason Miss. St. jumped to #1 is that they have 3 consecutive wins over teams that were in the top ten at the time (and will presumably all be in the top 25 at the end of the year unless they go into a tailspin).

(10-15-2014 10:33 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 10:02 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:05 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Would you put them in over a 1-loss FSU or 1-loss ND?

FSU yes, ND no.

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What's really going to matter is how many quality wins each team has. If they're looking at the end of November at two one-loss teams, and one team has beaten four "ranked" teams and the other has beaten only two, that might tip the scales. Just look at the AP poll this week -- the reason Miss. St. jumped to #1 is that they have 3 consecutive wins over teams that were in the top ten at the time (and will presumably all be in the top 25 at the end of the year unless they go into a tailspin).

I agree. And if you look at it that way, a 1-loss Notre Dame should get in over a 1-loss FSU.

FSU plays 3 ranked teams - ND, Clemson, and the ACC championship game.

Notre Dame plays 4 ranked teams - FSU, Stanford, ASU, and USC. They will play 1 less game than FSU, but ND did not play any FCS schools so that evens out (FSU played Citadel).

I think it matters more where the opponents end up than what they were ranked when they played. Based on what is being said, FSU gets no credit for beating Oklahoma State even though they are ranked 15th.

(10-17-2014 08:01 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think it matters more where the opponents end up than what they were ranked when they played. Based on what is being said, FSU gets no credit for beating Oklahoma State even though they are ranked 15th.

They will if Oklahoma State ends up beating TCU today and setting up a showdown with soon to be ranked West Virginia next weekend and then Kansas State the following weekend.

(10-18-2014 03:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 08:01 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think it matters more where the opponents end up than what they were ranked when they played. Based on what is being said, FSU gets no credit for beating Oklahoma State even though they are ranked 15th.

They will if Oklahoma State ends up beating TCU today and setting up a showdown with soon to be ranked West Virginia next weekend and then Kansas State the following weekend.

TCU is currently up 21-3. So it doesn't look likely.

(10-14-2014 03:50 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Ohio State will make the playoff.

Hmmm. Thought it was time for a bump.

We shall see where they land Tuesday. In my opinion they should get a jump equivalent to or even greater than what we saw with Arizona State.

If you take Michigan State and Utah against each other on a neutral field, I think a large majority of folks say Michigan State is heavily favored.

Ohio State will be well positioned to slip in there if we get some more big time losses at the top.

(10-14-2014 03:50 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Ohio State will make the playoff.

...if MSU beats Bama, and OSU takes care of business, as well as Oregon, it will happen.

Right now it looks like the playoffs will be:

1) SEC winner
2) FSU
3) Oregon or Arizona State (but zero chance that both will make it)
4) TCU or Baylor (but zero chance that both will make it)
5) SEC #2
6) Ohio State OR Nebraska

So a lot has to happen for Ohio State to get in. But a 1-loss Ohio State gets in over a 1-loss FSU or a 2-loss Oregon/ASU/TCU/Baylor.

If the cards fall right, it'll be an interesting question to see if the committee puts a 2-loss SEC West team in the playoff over a 1-loss Ohio State. Either way there will be a riot somewhere looking to tar and feather the playoff committee.

What's gonna get really interesting is how they treat Baylor. Baylor has been ranked really low, but they did beat TCU and if they win out will win the B12.

Quote:Ohio State will make the playoff.

Solidly beating @MSU + beating Nebraska will help them. They will need help, though. They'll need an SEC stand out + all others having 2 losses (so only 1 SEC team goes).

1. SEC Winner
2. FSU
Two Teams From: TCU/Baylor, Oregon/AZ-State, Ohio State/Nebraska

VERY HIGH CHANCE that out of that 3-team combo & FSU, there's going to be one combo in which BOTH will have 2 losses -- or FSU losing a game. Everything's not going to pan out "as expected". It rarely ever does. Kind of like the NCAA tourney will always have a mid-major in the Sweet 16 -- things never play out where there's a couple cinderellas 1st round, then all eliminated 2nd round.

MOST LIKELY:
1. Florida State (0L)
2. SEC Winner (2L)
3. Oregon (1L)
4. TCU (1L)

I can't bank on that, though. Still a lot of games to go. :)