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RE: American Conf Challenges
The biggest challenge of AAC is to figure out how to play at the level of Pitt and Cuse. Once we do that we can fall back to the # 8 or 9 conf.
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All credit to ECU. I enjoyed their humiliation of the UNC snobs. Unfortunately, ECU is stuck in a mid major conference, and their only hope for New Year's exposure is to edge out Marshall for the last spot.
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ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.
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(09-24-2014 09:24 AM)westwolf Wrote:  All credit to ECU. I enjoyed their humiliation of the UNC snobs. Unfortunately, ECU is stuck in a mid major conference, and their only hope for New Year's exposure is to edge out Marshall for the last spot.

Which they will do if they win the AAC since their SoS is head and shoulders above Marshall's.

Marshall's only hope is that ECU and UC have at least 2 losses.
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(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Let's see how VA Tech and Chapel Hill finish out. Those could be not so good wins when all is said and done. VA Tech lost again last Saturday. Happy for ECU though at the moment. Glad to see them dismantle those aholes in Chapel Hill.
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(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

As an independent, BYU is not eligible for the spot that has been designated for the top rated G5 conference champion. Like any team, they can claim a spot in the playoffs if ranked in the top 4, and they might be eligible for an Access Bowl spot if they rank high enough, but if they make an Access Bowl it will not take the spot designated for the best G5 team, so in that sense they can't edge out Marshall or ECU.
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(09-24-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Let's see how VA Tech and Chapel Hill finish out. Those could be not so good wins when all is said and done. VA Tech lost again last Saturday. Happy for ECU though at the moment. Glad to see them dismantle those aholes in Chapel Hill.

Even if VT and UNC crap the bed the rest of the season; Marshall still would not have played anybody near the quality of South Carolina, Cincinnati and UCF; all of which ECU would have played.

What no one is saying is that things could get much worse for Marshall if Cincinnati and Memphis pull upsets this week. That would be 3 AAC teams that will have passed them in the polls. Temple and Boise State could also be issues down the road. So Marshall has to keep winning and then hope that a lot of teams lose a couple.
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Even if Marshall has a CLOSE game with anyone on their schedule, it will drop them down the ranks.
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(09-24-2014 11:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.
Let's see how VA Tech and Chapel Hill finish out. Those could be not so good wins when all is said and done. VA Tech lost again last Saturday. Happy for ECU though at the moment. Glad to see them dismantle those aholes in Chapel Hill.
Even if VT and UNC crap the bed the rest of the season; Marshall still would not have played anybody near the quality of South Carolina, Cincinnati and UCF; all of which ECU would have played.

What no one is saying is that things could get much worse for Marshall if Cincinnati and Memphis pull upsets this week. That would be 3 AAC teams that will have passed them in the polls. Temple and Boise State could also be issues down the road. So Marshall has to keep winning and then hope that a lot of teams lose a couple.
However, Marshall has a good shot at finishing undefeated, which is impossible now for ECU, and the Pirates still have a game against Cincinnati left. The Bearcats looks pretty good so far, although we will find out more about them this weekend in Columbus. If UC beats Ohio State, they'll be in the driver's seat. Although ECU will have their shot at UC later this season.
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(09-24-2014 12:20 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 11:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.
Let's see how VA Tech and Chapel Hill finish out. Those could be not so good wins when all is said and done. VA Tech lost again last Saturday. Happy for ECU though at the moment. Glad to see them dismantle those aholes in Chapel Hill.
Even if VT and UNC crap the bed the rest of the season; Marshall still would not have played anybody near the quality of South Carolina, Cincinnati and UCF; all of which ECU would have played.

What no one is saying is that things could get much worse for Marshall if Cincinnati and Memphis pull upsets this week. That would be 3 AAC teams that will have passed them in the polls. Temple and Boise State could also be issues down the road. So Marshall has to keep winning and then hope that a lot of teams lose a couple.
However, Marshall has a good shot at finishing undefeated, which is impossible now for ECU, and the Pirates still have a game against Cincinnati left. The Bearcats looks pretty good so far, although we will find out more about them this weekend in Columbus. If UC beats Ohio State, they'll be in the driver's seat. Although ECU will have their shot at UC later this season.

If Cincinnati and Memphis can pull upsets then the AAC is going to be fun to watch for the remaining games this seasons. Cincinnati and Memphis play each other next Saturday.
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There are still eight (8) games left to be played, a lot can change in happen, during those games. 07-coffee3
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(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.
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(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU
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(09-24-2014 02:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU

Not entirely. While BYU is ineligible for the designated G5 slot, it may still get an at-large bid to an Access Bowl if ranked high enough.

If BYU wins out, it may well eek its way up to around #10 - #12 via sheer attrition, and that could allow it to cop an Access slot.
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(09-24-2014 09:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU

Not entirely. While BYU is ineligible for the designated G5 slot, it may still get an at-large bid to an Access Bowl if ranked high enough.

If BYU wins out, it may well eek its way up to around #10 - #12 via sheer attrition, and that could allow it to cop an Access slot.

I'm pretty sure that would be a contract violation.
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(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU

Not entirely. While BYU is ineligible for the designated G5 slot, it may still get an at-large bid to an Access Bowl if ranked high enough.

If BYU wins out, it may well eek its way up to around #10 - #12 via sheer attrition, and that could allow it to cop an Access slot.

I'm pretty sure that would be a contract violation.

In what way? 07-coffee3
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(09-24-2014 09:24 AM)westwolf Wrote:  All credit to ECU. I enjoyed their humiliation of the UNC snobs. Unfortunately, ECU is stuck in a mid major conference, and their only hope for New Year's exposure is to edge out Marshall for the last spot.

I'm curious to see if Marshall is actually as good as advertised. If they struggle against ODU, UAB, or Middle Tenn people will vote them down. They have to win every game convincingly or it will be like losing.
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(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  ECU does have some significant wins, and their only loss is to South Carolina. Marshall doesn't have anything similar on their resume. However, BYU could end up edging both out. We shall see.

Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU

Not entirely. While BYU is ineligible for the designated G5 slot, it may still get an at-large bid to an Access Bowl if ranked high enough.

If BYU wins out, it may well eek its way up to around #10 - #12 via sheer attrition, and that could allow it to cop an Access slot.

I'm pretty sure that would be a contract violation.

There are other "at large" access slots beyond the one reserved for the top G5 champ. How many depends on who the top 4 semi-finalist are and what bowls are hosting the semis.
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(09-25-2014 10:38 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:22 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 09:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 02:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Byu does not get the G5 bid no matter what they do.

Exactly...don't know why people get confused with that...it's Playoffs or Bust for BYU

Not entirely. While BYU is ineligible for the designated G5 slot, it may still get an at-large bid to an Access Bowl if ranked high enough.

If BYU wins out, it may well eek its way up to around #10 - #12 via sheer attrition, and that could allow it to cop an Access slot.

I'm pretty sure that would be a contract violation.

There are other "at large" access slots beyond the one reserved for the top G5 champ. How many depends on who the top 4 semi-finalist are and what bowls are hosting the semis.

Yes, BYU is eligible for any at-large Access slot, the number of which can range this year from a minimum of one to a maximum of five depending on how many P5 champs make the playoffs.

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