After Saturday's games, Lee's National FCS rankings:

Total offense/game - 5th
Total passing TD's - 7th
Points responsible for - T-5th
Passing yards/game - 16th
Total passing yards - 13th
Rushing yards - 45th (#5 QB)

(10-26-2014 09:18 AM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:53 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  I would think that Vad would be National Player of the Week with his performance today. If not, I can't wait to see who had a better day.

And yet there's another thread where people are criticizing his performance. Makes total sense

You have to be kidding right.....complete 68% of your passes and account for 6 total TDs.....what more do folks want Vad to do.

CAA Offensive player of the week

http://caasports.com/news/2014/10/26/FB_1026140020.aspx

Through 8 Games:
168-295-6 for 1995 yds and 18 TDs
766 yds rushing and 6 TDs.

On pace to shatter records. If he keeps it up.

He'll pass for 3000 yards and run for over 1000 with 30 total TDs at this pace.

But Birdsong was a better passer.....

LOL....and JMU should have hired Flip

Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

(10-27-2014 12:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.

True, I thought that is what good coaches are supposed to do --- mold the offense to your players strenghts. Seems to me that the offense is being managed and molded just as it should with the yardage and points JMU is racking up.

It would be foolish to expect Vad to be Marino/Elway/Montana --- but he looks darn good and by far the best the offense and QB play has looked since Landers.

(10-27-2014 12:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

Should they run a system that plays to his weaknesses?

He is a good running QB that can throw a decent pass most of the time and seems to be improving as the season goes on.

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  [quote='Hotrod829' pid='11297454' dateline='1414429773']
Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.
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JMU is not a top 25 passing offense or in top 25 of passing efficiency. Villanova gas a qb that is at the top.

(10-27-2014 12:27 PM)formerjmusprinter84 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

Should they run a system that plays to his weaknesses?

He is a good running QB that can throw a decent pass most of the time and seems to be improving as the season goes on.

There are coaches who bring players in and expect them to fit their system and scheme despite their downfalls. Georgia Tech was bot going to do that for Lee , so he left.

(10-27-2014 12:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

Michael Vick did OK in college with the same limitation: he couldn't hit a touch pass to save his life

(10-27-2014 12:42 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  [quote='Hotrod829' pid='11297454' dateline='1414429773']
Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.
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JMU is not a top 25 passing offense or in top 25 of passing efficiency. Villanova gas a qb that is at the top.

Okay, so there are two dozen or so teams with better passing efficiency (whatever that really means). I would wager most don't have a QB who can move, extend plays or run the option like Vad does. This isn't the NFL, you don't need to be a great passer to be successful at this level.

(10-27-2014 01:07 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:42 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  [quote='Hotrod829' pid='11297454' dateline='1414429773']
Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.
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JMU is not a top 25 passing offense or in top 25 of passing efficiency. Villanova gas a qb that is at the top.

Okay, so there are two dozen or so teams with better passing efficiency (whatever that really means). I would wager most don't have a QB who can move, extend plays or run the option like Vad does. This isn't the NFL, you don't need to be a great passer to be successful at this level.

No but you must be accurate and have a good abilty to make quick decisions. That is what Lee lacks. The numbers are great but most of us watch the games and in our league (CAA) he needs to get better.

(10-27-2014 01:16 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:07 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:42 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  [quote='Hotrod829' pid='11297454' dateline='1414429773']
Ha....... were we this excited last year when we beat Charlotte in thier first year . Vad is not a good passing QB . The sytem we are running plays to his strengths. We we play better defenses we are going to need Vad to step up and make tight accurate throws.

True, but in FCS ball QBs rarely make tight and accurate throws. Vad is a great athlete who can throw a solid pass 10-20 years and that is good enough for what we want to do on offense against the level of competition we play.
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JMU is not a top 25 passing offense or in top 25 of passing efficiency. Villanova gas a qb that is at the top.

Okay, so there are two dozen or so teams with better passing efficiency (whatever that really means). I would wager most don't have a QB who can move, extend plays or run the option like Vad does. This isn't the NFL, you don't need to be a great passer to be successful at this level.

No but you must be accurate and have a good abilty to make quick decisions. That is what Lee lacks. The numbers are great but most of us watch the games and in our league (CAA) he needs to get better.

Not saying he's perfect, but he is better than all other CAA QBs not named Stephenson, Strauss or whatshisname from UNH.

https://twitter.com/JMUCoachWithers/stat...2839834624

College Sports Madness offensive POW

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-...kly-awards

There are some good notes from yesterday's presser regarding the passing game.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1697511

For the year, Vad is now just below average for passing accuracy ranked #62 nationally (6th in the CAA).

Another relevant Stat - JMU has run more plays per game than every team except Idaho St. The team will break a lot of cumulative Stat records just by running so many plays, not necessarily running them better than previous teams or other teams. The Dukes are middle of the pack for yards per play in the passing game.

The move to a heavy dose of screens and shovel passes in the last 2 games has been a good move to hide Vad's biggest weakness.

The huge win this year has been Vad's ability to keep possession of the ball. Kudos to him for avoiding game changing turnovers with the ball in his hands so many times.

more passing related in RTD http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coll...8d5b1.html