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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
BYU runs the table?...they will be in.
09-25-2014 05:44 AM
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
(09-25-2014 05:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  BYU runs the table?...they will be in.

this.
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
(09-25-2014 05:40 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  You are forgetting that some of those bowl games have already set their line ups when they are not used in playoffs
Example Sugar will have SEC team vs Big12 when not in playoffs so really BYU has even less slots available in ACcess bowls

This is true, but it depends which bowls are hosting the semi-final games and who is playing in those games. This year, the Rose and Sugar Bowls host the CFP, is where there are likely the MOST at large spots available.

The Orange Bowl is the only non-playoff NY6 Bowl game with contracted relationships (ACC v. SEC/B1G/Notre Dame). That means there will be 5 spots open for the G5 champ, any "displaced" P5 champs, and at large teams.

Ultimately, I think the playoff will include SEC champ, PAC 12 champ, Big 12 Champ, and an SEC at large. (I think Florida St. will lose at some point). This means that the ACC champ will get the Orange Bowl bid and the G5 champ will take its bid- still 4 spots open. Michigan St. looks like they will be in the top-10 and very easily could take the other Orange Bowl bid, but even if they don't, there will still be 3 spots open.

This means that an at large team would at worst need to finish at #7 to get the NY6 selection. But, if the ACC champ is #5-7,- the best the at large team would need to finish is #8. If the the ACC and B1G champs are #5-8, the at large team would need to finish at #9. If the ACC, B1G, and G5 champs are #5-9, the at large team would need to finish in top-10.
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
Actually this year is BYUs best shot at an at large bid
The four bowls not in playoffs Orange,Cotton,Fiesta and Peach. Only the OB has fixed tie ins to ACC team vs BTen,SEC or ND
Remember the OB will take the ACC champ or the higher ACC no playoff team. So BYU or G5 will never be in the OB
so this year there are 5 Access Slots

2016 there will only be THREE as the Sugar and Rose are fixed

2017 worse year only ONE free slot in Cotton vs the G5 champ
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
Would this rule on BYU apply to Notre Dame as well? They are NOT a "conference member" of the ACC for football.
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(09-25-2014 04:25 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Actually this year is BYUs best shot at an at large bid
The four bowls not in playoffs Orange,Cotton,Fiesta and Peach. Only the OB has fixed tie ins to ACC team vs BTen,SEC or ND
Remember the OB will take the ACC champ or the higher ACC no playoff team. So BYU or G5 will never be in the OB
so this year there are 5 Access Slots

2016 there will only be THREE as the Sugar and Rose are fixed

2017 worse year only ONE free slot in Cotton vs the G5 champ

It also depends on how many "displaced" champions there are. I think there will be only 3 or 4 access slots this year. But, its still likely BYU's best chance at an NY6 bowl.

Although, BYU will have the schedule next year to justify a higher ranking - I just don't predict an undefeated season (at Nebraska, at Michigan, at UCLA, Boise St., ECU, and Cincinnati at home)
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
(09-25-2014 05:05 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Would this rule on BYU apply to Notre Dame as well? They are NOT a "conference member" of the ACC for football.

Notre Dame can play in the Orange bowl up to 2 times in the 12-year contract - AGAINST the ACC team.
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(09-25-2014 05:05 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Would this rule on BYU apply to Notre Dame as well? They are NOT a "conference member" of the ACC for football.

No Notre Dame has a tie in to the OB vs ACC team. So the OB can choose them an SEC team or a BigTen

The mistake many are committing is that the Access Bowl teams will be chosen by committee and depend on rankings.

In reality they will only be choosing at large teams and top G5 champ

This year that means six teams
2016 four
2017 two
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RE: BYU may go 12-0 and have no where to go besides The Miami bowl
(09-25-2014 05:07 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(09-25-2014 04:25 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Actually this year is BYUs best shot at an at large bid
The four bowls not in playoffs Orange,Cotton,Fiesta and Peach. Only the OB has fixed tie ins to ACC team vs BTen,SEC or ND
Remember the OB will take the ACC champ or the higher ACC no playoff team. So BYU or G5 will never be in the OB
so this year there are 5 Access Slots

2016 there will only be THREE as the Sugar and Rose are fixed

2017 worse year only ONE free slot in Cotton vs the G5 champ

It also depends on how many "displaced" champions there are. I think there will be only 3 or 4 access slots this year. But, its still likely BYU's best chance at an NY6 bowl.

Although, BYU will have the schedule next year to justify a higher ranking - I just don't predict an undefeated season (at Nebraska, at Michigan, at UCLA, Boise St., ECU, and Cincinnati at home)

You are correct. Right now
FSU,Oklahoma,Oregon and Alabame in playoffs
If FSU goes to playoff you would have a currently un ranked ACC team in the OB probably vs ND
Fiesta could be a Michigan State or BT champ vs UCLA a slot here is probably BYUs best bet
Cotton Texas AM vs Baylor. I could see an SEC team passing Baylor for this spot
Peach Auburn vs ECU
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Q: How will the voting be done?

A: It's a five-step process:

(1) Each committee member will list their top 25 teams, in no particular order. Teams listed by three or more members will remain under consideration;

(2) each member will list their top six teams, in no particular order. The six teams receiving the most votes will comprise the pool for the first seeding ballot;

(3) In the first seeding ballot, each member will rank those six teams -- one through six. Three teams receiving the fewest points will become the top three seeds. The three teams not seeded will be held over for the next seeding ballot;

(4) each member will list the six best remaining teams, in no particular order. The three teams receiving the most votes will be added to the three teams held over to comprise the next seeding ballot;

(5) Steps No. 3 and 4 will be repeated until 25 teams have been seeded. All votes will be by secret ballot.

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you won't have to worry about them be undefeated two weeks from tonight...
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(09-07-2014 06:27 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  I think an undefeated BYU goes to a Big Six bowl, just because they're in the top ten. (I think the committee rankings will look a lot like the Coaches Poll rankings which look a lot like the AP Poll rankings. It's a lot safer that way.) Houston ran up to #6 on a C-USA schedule, BYU can do the same thing.

Right now, I'd guess that the semifinals have 2 SEC teams, 1 ACC and 1 PAC. That means the other four CFB bowls need to accomodate a Big 12 team (who is probably top 10 anyway) a B1G Ten team (which probably isn't after yesterday) and a G5 champion (who is probably not a top 10 team). With 12 spots and two spoken for by non-top ten teams, all the top ten teams get a spot.

The bowls are cut out of the action, remember. Probably as a result of stuff like the Sugar Bowl taking #12 Virginina Tech and #14 Michigan over #8 Boise State a few years ago (rankings are hazy guesses.) The committee tells the bowls who to take.

Right now Oklahoma would be in for sure and not a second SEC team. Now down the road we shall see. Still lots of football to be played.
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