BYU is not part of the G5 access bowl so even if they go undefeated unless they get an at-large spot or somehow make the playoffs they will have nowhere to go except for the Miami bowl. Looking at their schedule they have a good chance to go undefeated after beating Texas.

a undefeated byu will be top 8 and likely to get an atlarge .. 11-1 would make it interesting

No bigger travesty since Ball State knew they had ZERO shot at a major bowl in 2010 even if they had won the MAC title game. Or the 1996 Fiesta Bowl where they were shut out with 13 wins. They probably would have been shut out if 14-0 too.

Let's hope that pushes them into the American.

(09-07-2014 04:40 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  Let's hope that pushes them into the American.

That's what I think happens unless the b10 or 12 moves first. However the b10 missing on a playoff spot may push this to an 8 team playoff


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(09-07-2014 04:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 04:40 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  Let's hope that pushes them into the American.

That's what I think happens unless the b10 or 12 moves first. However the b10 missing on a playoff spot may push this to an 8 team playoff


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If the big10 pushes for an 8-team playoff, they will have to push for automatic bids to the P% conference champs, otherwise they still might not make it in.

I assume that would be the requirement - every P5 conference winner gets an automatic bid along with the next best 3.

I'm actually surprised that wasn't how the playoff system was set up to begin with.

(09-07-2014 05:09 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  I assume that would be the requirement - every P5 conference winner gets an automatic bid along with the next best 3.

That's my thought as well although the AAC and other g5 will have to push back on that


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12-0 BYU should not be in the access bowl.

(09-07-2014 05:17 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  I'm actually surprised that wasn't how the playoff system was set up to begin with.

When you do that you kill the access bowls in their current form, as Boone is laying $80 million for a matchup of third and fourth place teams. Plus you lose some of the dual revenue streams that host cities get from traveling fans. It's hard to find the extra money to make it more lucrative than what they have now, especially a I with the unknown of how the playoffs will work financial with regard to fans traveling. One step at a time.

I think an undefeated BYU goes to a Big Six bowl, just because they're in the top ten. (I think the committee rankings will look a lot like the Coaches Poll rankings which look a lot like the AP Poll rankings. It's a lot safer that way.) Houston ran up to #6 on a C-USA schedule, BYU can do the same thing.

Right now, I'd guess that the semifinals have 2 SEC teams, 1 ACC and 1 PAC. That means the other four CFB bowls need to accomodate a Big 12 team (who is probably top 10 anyway) a B1G Ten team (which probably isn't after yesterday) and a G5 champion (who is probably not a top 10 team). With 12 spots and two spoken for by non-top ten teams, all the top ten teams get a spot.

The bowls are cut out of the action, remember. Probably as a result of stuff like the Sugar Bowl taking #12 Virginina Tech and #14 Michigan over #8 Boise State a few years ago (rankings are hazy guesses.) The committee tells the bowls who to take.

If BYU is 12-0 they won't be in the Miami Beach bowl.

The win @Texas was very, VERY impressive, but for now my belief is that if you check back on November 30, BYU won't be 12-0.

(09-07-2014 06:17 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:17 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  I'm actually surprised that wasn't how the playoff system was set up to begin with.

When you do that you kill the access bowls in their current form, as Boone is laying $80 million for a matchup of third and fourth place teams. Plus you lose some of the dual revenue streams that host cities get from traveling fans. It's hard to find the extra money to make it more lucrative than what they have now, especially a I with the unknown of how the playoffs will work financial with regard to fans traveling. One step at a time.

Yeah, I get it. My guess is if the system looks to be a success it will be expanded in short order. I'd like to see the first round of games played on campus or in non-bowl host cities. It would be interesting to see what happens to some of the southern schools if they had to come north and play in the cold.

(09-07-2014 08:40 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  Yeah, I get it. My guess is if the system looks to be a success it will be expanded in short order. I'd like to see the first round of games played on campus or in non-bowl host cities. It would be interesting to see what happens to some of the southern schools if they had to come north and play in the cold.

A first round at on-campus sites would be amazing! It would reward the higher seeds - thus enhancing the regular season - and would top the atmosphere of any other sporting event. And, it would alleviate most concerns about fan travel and attendance.

Oh, and BYU isn't going 12-0. There are just too many variables that have to land your way. But, BYU will get to 10 or 11 wins - which won't be enough to land in the New Year's 6, let alone the CFP.

I'm hoping we get Cincinnati or ECU in the Miami Beach Bowl - because both are on next year's home schedule! That would be a great bonus game to start either series.

There are three other at-large spots in the access bowls. If BYU manages to run the table, they'll get one, if they don't happen to get selected to the semis.

(09-25-2014 12:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 06:27 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  I think an undefeated BYU goes to a Big Six bowl, just because they're in the top ten. (I think the committee rankings will look a lot like the Coaches Poll rankings which look a lot like the AP Poll rankings. It's a lot safer that way.) Houston ran up to #6 on a C-USA schedule, BYU can do the same thing.

Right now, I'd guess that the semifinals have 2 SEC teams, 1 ACC and 1 PAC. That means the other four CFB bowls need to accomodate a Big 12 team (who is probably top 10 anyway) a B1G Ten team (which probably isn't after yesterday) and a G5 champion (who is probably not a top 10 team). With 12 spots and two spoken for by non-top ten teams, all the top ten teams get a spot.

The bowls are cut out of the action, remember. Probably as a result of stuff like the Sugar Bowl taking #12 Virginina Tech and #14 Michigan over #8 Boise State a few years ago (rankings are hazy guesses.) The committee tells the bowls who to take.

You are forgetting that some of those bowl games have already set their line ups when they are not used in playoffs
Example Sugar will have SEC team vs Big12 when not in playoffs so really BYU has even less slots available in ACcess bowls