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RE: QB Situation
(09-07-2014 10:45 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  
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(09-06-2014 08:10 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  The injury didn't look good at all. I thought he played very well at the start, didn't continue, but he still made nice throws. He seemed shaky at points. He looks very stout. Or it could just be I'm used to seeing Owens skinny ass back there for the rockets.

Was very sad to see a guy go down like that. Hope he ends up okay, it looked ugly.

Also, looked like you had a great crowd this weekend. Good luck the rest of non conference.

Not sure what game you were watching, because I didn't think he played well today. He had numerous underthrows, as well as overthrows. Granted, he wasn't helped by his WR, who dropped a lot of passes.

I think Olack's 2 td passes last week is probably the most production we'll get from him this season. He had at least 2 drops yesterday which seems to be the norm for him. Career at UT has been a bit disappointing

Yeah, but look at Russell's drops--when the ball is right in his hands. One thing I do give Russell credit for is his effort after the catch. He doesn't drop, he battles for yards like a RB.

You have to look at who was throwing to Olack the past couple years (rarely). All T.O. cared about was getting himself and his buddy Reedy to The League. He wouldn't throw to Olack and he wouldn't throw to the TE's. If you recall, late last season when he finally started giving Olack a good ball he was catching it and picking up yards.

Our passing game was not well executed yesterday. Agree--the new signal calling technique probably hurt us. Who's idea was that anyway?

Owens didn't do a good job of going through his progressions. Had a tendency to lock in.
09-07-2014 10:50 AM
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RE: QB Situation
(09-07-2014 10:50 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 10:45 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 10:22 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  
(09-06-2014 08:23 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(09-06-2014 08:10 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  The injury didn't look good at all. I thought he played very well at the start, didn't continue, but he still made nice throws. He seemed shaky at points. He looks very stout. Or it could just be I'm used to seeing Owens skinny ass back there for the rockets.

Was very sad to see a guy go down like that. Hope he ends up okay, it looked ugly.

Also, looked like you had a great crowd this weekend. Good luck the rest of non conference.

Not sure what game you were watching, because I didn't think he played well today. He had numerous underthrows, as well as overthrows. Granted, he wasn't helped by his WR, who dropped a lot of passes.

I think Olack's 2 td passes last week is probably the most production we'll get from him this season. He had at least 2 drops yesterday which seems to be the norm for him. Career at UT has been a bit disappointing

Yeah, but look at Russell's drops--when the ball is right in his hands. One thing I do give Russell credit for is his effort after the catch. He doesn't drop, he battles for yards like a RB.

You have to look at who was throwing to Olack the past couple years (rarely). All T.O. cared about was getting himself and his buddy Reedy to The League. He wouldn't throw to Olack and he wouldn't throw to the TE's. If you recall, late last season when he finally started giving Olack a good ball he was catching it and picking up yards.

Our passing game was not well executed yesterday. Agree--the new signal calling technique probably hurt us. Who's idea was that anyway?

Owens didn't do a good job of going through his progressions. Had a tendency to lock in.

I noticed later in the season he clearly started spreading the ball around more. It made me wonder whether the coaches finally got on his can about only wanting to throw to certain people.
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09-07-2014 11:12 AM
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(09-07-2014 06:25 AM)pono Wrote:  however, the key to the game, imo. was something that matt millen caught early on if you were watching the broadcast. ely and mancz timing on the snap count clap gave missouri control of the line of scrimmage. ut would run plays from the shotgun with the snap coming just after ely's clap. the defense could see ely preparing to clap and jump the snap. our o-line has their back to the qb and are reacting to the snap and the defense. 90% of our poor offensive plays were because a missouri d-linemen jumped the snap count and made the tackle or busted up the timing of the play. i was surprised the players and staff couldn't make an adjustment that helped our line. as it is our tackles are not the strength of our line. when you make them a step slower but tipping the d to the snap they become pretty ineffective. i think ely would have been ok if he had less pressure.

That would explain a lot. I was really surprised that the Mizzou defensive line was able to get as much pressure as they did on Ely at times against UT's veteran O-line. After the 2000 Penn State game, it came out that UT had figured out the Penn State snap count which contributed significantly to that win, so I guess Gary Pinkel's attention to detail is still paying big dividends. Hopefully the UT staff will have this problem corrected in a hurry, after all it is the coach's job to put the team in a position to have its best chance for success.
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olack was pretty brutal. he seems to be a different player in the redzone where he is effective, but loses concentration elsewhere.

russell had 1 early drop, then was solid. wilcher and jones have looked good.the qbs need to give russel more chances on long balls. if he is 1 on 1 put it up there. ely kept throwing long balls out of bounds.
09-08-2014 06:23 PM
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RE: QB Situation
(09-08-2014 06:23 PM)pono Wrote:  olack was pretty brutal. he seems to be a different player in the redzone where he is effective, but loses concentration elsewhere.

russell had 1 early drop, then was solid. wilcher and jones have looked good.the qbs need to give russel more chances on long balls. if he is 1 on 1 put it up there. ely kept throwing long balls out of bounds.

If I were Russell, I might have been surprised the pass was even near me. Ely had some nice passes but those towards Russell in both games seemed in the dirt, way overhead, behind... with a few on target.
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RE: QB Situation
(09-08-2014 07:00 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 06:23 PM)pono Wrote:  olack was pretty brutal. he seems to be a different player in the redzone where he is effective, but loses concentration elsewhere.

russell had 1 early drop, then was solid. wilcher and jones have looked good.the qbs need to give russel more chances on long balls. if he is 1 on 1 put it up there. ely kept throwing long balls out of bounds.

If I were Russell, I might have been surprised the pass was even near me. Ely had some nice passes but those towards Russell in both games seemed in the dirt, way overhead, behind... with a few on target.
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Unless he shows sign that he's completely intimidated, I hope they stick with him at least until and unless a three td separation occurs.
09-08-2014 09:35 PM
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