(08-30-2014 04:16 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Really an expansion board question, but the short answer is no and will probably always be no. Nova was given every opportunity to move up in the Big East and they may a halfass effort at best and most pundits feel they never had any intention moving up beyond where they are now. Their stadium plans were pretty offensive to schools like WVU and Pitt and shenanigans like that are what helped keep the Big East football vs. basketball divide alive and well.

I have to ask though, how a Div. II football, mid-major basketball school is any more attractive than Tulane, Tulsa or ECU though. ECU has tradition in the sport that pays the bills, Tulsa was a top school in C-USA with football and basketball, and Tulane gives us NOLA and appears to be investing in sports for a change. We already have what we'll get out of Philly with Temple and there's no benefit to overlapping a market that cares far more about pro sports than college sports. Plus we have 13 mouths to feed on a minuscule TV deal, I don't see the point in feeding a 14th that can't bring anything useful to the table.

This. Nova was given a get into Big East free plan and botched it to the point that you could only conclude they don't care. They were in the CAA for football with us and I can tell you that those NE FCS football schools are not in the same league as even Southland schools. They are MBB first and second. I mean many don't even have marching bands. If Nova wanted to make the jump they would have but there is less than zero chance they leave the Big East...EVER.

And in conclusion, I'm willing to bet that no snap decisions regarding who 'we invited' to our conference were made.

Pretty sure, every team thought useful was considered. Contingency plans were probably laid in advance for the Catholic 7's succumbing to the temptation of ESPN.

Why do we want to bring one back into the fold, especially one without a marching band?
I'm serious. That's pathetic.

My high school has better football facilities, and my high school's football facilities are awful.

Villanova wasnt even a legitimate candidate for the old Big East.

(08-31-2014 12:00 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Unnecessarily combative response and doesn't appear you want to hear anything aside from people agreeing with you about Villanova. So I'll just ask the mods to move this thread, doesn't belong on this board anyway.

good for you. taking my statement as combative. It's called a conversation. I guess I could say your response is combative as well.

(08-31-2014 11:01 AM)Mimi Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 11:37 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  If Tulsa, Tulane & ECU are so awesome, why didn't they ever make cusa awesome? Fact is, we've reassembled cusa+uconn.

ECU and Tulsa did add quite a bit to CUSA.

Not so much to the AAC.

(08-31-2014 11:52 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:27 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 12:00 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Unnecessarily combative response and doesn't appear you want to hear anything aside from people agreeing with you about Villanova. So I'll just ask the mods to move this thread, doesn't belong on this board anyway.

good for you. taking my statement as combative. It's called a conversation. I guess I could say your response is combative as well.

I politely answered you about Villanova despite it being Not Tiger Related and despite you throwing in the strawman about our conference-mates. Rather than respond to the topic of this thread, that you started, you double-downed by mocking me about ECU/Tulsa/Tulane (although you seemed ok with EvilLore saying basically the same thing)...how they correlate to Villanova I don't know, since you don't seem interested in having that conversation either.

I'm sorry, but your agenda seems clear. If folks don't agree with you, then you will apparently resort to mocking them about ECU/Tulsa/Tulane instead of why their arguments about Villanova are wrong and yours is correct. Have I missed anything? Do you still want to talk about why Villanova is a terrible idea? I'm guessing not as one of your few responses is a direct response to me, which again, had nothing to do with the topic at hand.

And for the record, mocking people does not a conversation make.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I asked a question. Why are you being so combative?

(09-01-2014 12:31 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 12:29 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:52 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:27 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 12:00 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Unnecessarily combative response and doesn't appear you want to hear anything aside from people agreeing with you about Villanova. So I'll just ask the mods to move this thread, doesn't belong on this board anyway.

good for you. taking my statement as combative. It's called a conversation. I guess I could say your response is combative as well.

I politely answered you about Villanova despite it being Not Tiger Related and despite you throwing in the strawman about our conference-mates. Rather than respond to the topic of this thread, that you started, you double-downed by mocking me about ECU/Tulsa/Tulane (although you seemed ok with EvilLore saying basically the same thing)...how they correlate to Villanova I don't know, since you don't seem interested in having that conversation either.

I'm sorry, but your agenda seems clear. If folks don't agree with you, then you will apparently resort to mocking them about ECU/Tulsa/Tulane instead of why their arguments about Villanova are wrong and yours is correct. Have I missed anything? Do you still want to talk about why Villanova is a terrible idea? I'm guessing not as one of your few responses is a direct response to me, which again, had nothing to do with the topic at hand.

And for the record, mocking people does not a conversation make.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I asked a question. Why are you being so combative?

I answered your question, you responded with mockery. Though, according to you, mocking is not combative, but a conversation starter, guess not everyone believes in that philosophy. And you're still not on-topic about the off-topic thread you started.

Wow.

(08-30-2014 04:23 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Dont worry about E.C.U. they will be in the ACC soon enough. I like the idea of nova and u mass

Why would the ACC take ECU?

What do they bring to the ACC? A larger TV market?

The ACC already is in that marketplace. That's the same reason why the SEC won't ever look at Memphis.

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(08-30-2014 02:58 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 02:56 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 02:45 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 09:44 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 07:48 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I agree. I think Tulane, Tulsa & ECU were horrible additions. Gives it a CUSA feel. Our conference leaders made snap decisions on some of our addittions. If we add another CUSA school ima lose it. Other than that I feel we've made the best possible choices in terms of competition & location. Before anymore additions the conference needs to be patient & wait for a couple of the BigEast basketball schools like Nova to develop decent football programs. Tulane may prove to be smart but Tulsa & ECU? I don't see it. ECU is a dying brand.

ECU football is probably the strongest brand we have, along with Cincinnati and UCF.

With their stadium expansion, they'll be averaging close to 50k every home game.

Tulsa and Tulane were the head-scratchers in expansion. New Orleans is a great destination but they bring absolutely nothing to the table athletically. Tulsa is the dying brand. They should have stayed in C-USA while we extended an all-sport invite to Villanova or an MWC school.

Hope you are right about ecu. They really haven't made much noise lately. I agree about Tulsa & Nova. Tulsa brings nothing. Nova brings their basketball brand & the rest of the Philly audience.

Nova is D2 and wouldn't be competitive. Not to mention, Temple would NEVER allow this.

Tulsa brings a lot more to the table since everything is about football.

You didn't notice they pushed Syracuse to double ot last night? Really shoulda won. They are ready for the jump.

well thats more because syracuse sucks than villanova is a world beater.

What is this fascination everyone has with UMASS?

(09-01-2014 02:28 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  What is this fascination everyone has with UMASS?

They blow. I don't get it either.