(08-21-2014 12:29 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 12:22 PM)DukeDoggyDogg Wrote:  I appreciate the heads up. Honestly, I just want to watch a meaningful football game. Will tune in, thanks!

Preseason NFL is the worst...in fact, the NFL is the worst. I read an article today on cbssports about the league trying to crack down and penalize players for using foul and offensive langauge during games (no doubt in response to the Martin/Incognito fiasco)...

We'll ignore the oversized men running full speed at each other doing permanent brain and spinal damage, but you better not be mean when you do it!

I still love the NFL but if the regular season is refereed anything like the preseason I'm going to be pissed. There is a flag on EVERY f'ing play. You're not allowed to play defense at all in the NFL anymore. Guy leads with a shoulder, flag even if he has perfect form. Guys is running full speed at the QB and he throws it away and gets hit, flag. Guy brushes a receiver more than 5 yards down the field or breathes on him, flag. Every freaking play.

On another note, this game is pretty good so far but that red turf is giving me vertigo.

The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

That Eastern Washington -vs- Sam Houston State game was pretty good.
Keeler had his team scored on with 30 seconds left and down 14 points
EWU took it in for a TD. Final EWU 56 and SHSU 35.

Watched just about all of the first half before the red field gave me a headache. Can't stand that field.

I also could have done without the announcers and C. Cowherd taking the entire 2nd period talking about the new first time ever playoff for the national championship
while the game was going on. I think they talked about every major team and said about three words about the game.

Great job guys.

Brian

Pretty good game to start the season. Red field didn't bother me TOO much...but I lost track of the ball sometimes. Partly because of the poor camera work/location of the cameras and partly because of the red.

(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)Smokey 1 Wrote:  The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

Eh give him credit. He made an effort to sound educated about Fcs football and was kinda, sorta close...
You should've seen lee and Kirk's "pregame" for this game. With throwing generic football cliches like "the defense will play with a chip on their shoulders", it was so pathetically obvious they didn't even look into either team before commenting.

(08-23-2014 07:49 PM)ParentofJMUMRDs Wrote:  Watched just about all of the first half before the red field gave me a headache. Can't stand that field.

I also could have done without the announcers and C. Cowherd taking the entire 2nd period talking about the new first time ever playoff for the national championship
while the game was going on. I think they talked about every major team and said about three words about the game.

Great job guys.

Brian

I haven't watched it yet, but this doesn't surprise me in the slightest to hear they talked about the BCS instead of the football game right in front of them.
They can't give it a rest for even one game, can they?

Ahh it was Colin cowherd. They should never let that fool speak. He's one of espn's worst talking heads. I've lost track of the stupid dribble that always comes out of his mouth.

You guys sound salty as hell. He doesn't share the same opinion about the quality of FCS football as you do? His ideas are different than you? Shame on him!!!

The ref asked the PA announcer to not play music while the visiting team is on offense. Why do I feel like KC Keeler is behind that whining? Give me a break.

those were two talented teams. I was impressed.

That field and stadium made me angry for obvious reasons.

(08-24-2014 06:23 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)Smokey 1 Wrote:  The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

Eh give him credit. He made an effort to sound educated about Fcs football and was kinda, sorta close...
You should've seen lee and Kirk's "pregame" for this game. With throwing generic football cliches like "the defense will play with a chip on their shoulders", it was so pathetically obvious they didn't even look into either team before commenting.

No he didn't. Just watched the recording of the game. They were both buffoons.
-comment about Keeler coaching UD to the 04' NC.
-Gilmore stated that EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season. He later stated they lost in the quarterfinals the last 2 seasons. He later corrects himself by stating they lost in the "Final 4" last season.
-Dufus #2 stated at least 3 times how EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season.
Neither one of these buffoons bothered to look up that EWU lost in the semi finals the last 2 seasons.
-Both of them for virtually the entire 1st half held their own sports show, talking about the I-A playoffs, the P5 conferences, paying players, anti trust lawsuits, the Little League World Series, and other stuff far more than the game they were covering.
-After you've said for about the 10th time that SHSU has 15 transfers, ok, we got it. You don't need to keep repeating it over and over and over an over...

(08-24-2014 07:37 AM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  You guys sound salty as hell. He doesn't share the same opinion about the quality of FCS football as you do? His ideas are different than you? Shame on him!!!

No, they just didn't know wtf they were talking about.

(08-24-2014 09:53 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  those were two talented teams. I was impressed.

True with their offenses but wasn't impressed with either defense. If the SHSU QB could throw a long ball, they would've scored about 56 also. He overthrew guys on about 1/2 doz long balls, 4 of which were wide open. And usually at the beginning of the season the defenses are better vs the offenses than later on. EWU lost the last 2 semis because of great offense and subpar defense. Looks like more of the same...

SHSU was extremely sloppy. 16 penalties for about 160 Yds. Yeah as the commentators told us countless times during the game, SHSU had 15 transfers...

(08-27-2014 12:15 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 06:23 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)Smokey 1 Wrote:  The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

Eh give him credit. He made an effort to sound educated about Fcs football and was kinda, sorta close...
You should've seen lee and Kirk's "pregame" for this game. With throwing generic football cliches like "the defense will play with a chip on their shoulders", it was so pathetically obvious they didn't even look into either team before commenting.

No he didn't. Just watched the recording of the game. They were both buffoons.
-comment about Keeler coaching UD to the 04' NC.
-Gilmore stated that EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season. He later stated they lost in the quarterfinals the last 2 seasons. He later corrects himself by stating they lost in the "Final 4" last season.
-Dufus #2 stated at least 3 times how EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season.
Neither one of these buffoons bothered to look up that EWU lost in the semi finals the last 2 seasons.
-Both of them for virtually the entire 1st half held their own sports show, talking about the I-A playoffs, the P5 conferences, paying players, anti trust lawsuits, the Little League World Series, and other stuff far more than the game they were covering.
-After you've said for about the 10th time that SHSU has 15 transfers, ok, we got it. You don't need to keep repeating it over and over and over an over...

Gilmore called our game against Montana in the Finals in '04

(08-27-2014 05:31 AM)JMUDukes92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2014 12:15 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 06:23 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)Smokey 1 Wrote:  The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

Eh give him credit. He made an effort to sound educated about Fcs football and was kinda, sorta close...
You should've seen lee and Kirk's "pregame" for this game. With throwing generic football cliches like "the defense will play with a chip on their shoulders", it was so pathetically obvious they didn't even look into either team before commenting.

No he didn't. Just watched the recording of the game. They were both buffoons.
-comment about Keeler coaching UD to the 04' NC.
-Gilmore stated that EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season. He later stated they lost in the quarterfinals the last 2 seasons. He later corrects himself by stating they lost in the "Final 4" last season.
-Dufus #2 stated at least 3 times how EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season.
Neither one of these buffoons bothered to look up that EWU lost in the semi finals the last 2 seasons.
-Both of them for virtually the entire 1st half held their own sports show, talking about the I-A playoffs, the P5 conferences, paying players, anti trust lawsuits, the Little League World Series, and other stuff far more than the game they were covering.
-After you've said for about the 10th time that SHSU has 15 transfers, ok, we got it. You don't need to keep repeating it over and over and over an over...

Gilmore called our game against Montana in the Finals in '04

Since I was there, I don't have a clue how the broadcast went. Did you watch? If so, how did he do back on that great night in Chattanooga?

(08-27-2014 12:15 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 06:23 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)Smokey 1 Wrote:  The announcer just said KC Keeler and Delaware won the Championship in 2004.

Eh give him credit. He made an effort to sound educated about Fcs football and was kinda, sorta close...
You should've seen lee and Kirk's "pregame" for this game. With throwing generic football cliches like "the defense will play with a chip on their shoulders", it was so pathetically obvious they didn't even look into either team before commenting.

No he didn't. Just watched the recording of the game. They were both buffoons.
-comment about Keeler coaching UD to the 04' NC.
-Gilmore stated that EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season. He later stated they lost in the quarterfinals the last 2 seasons. He later corrects himself by stating they lost in the "Final 4" last season.
-Dufus #2 stated at least 3 times how EWU lost in the quarterfinals last season.
Neither one of these buffoons bothered to look up that EWU lost in the semi finals the last 2 seasons.
-Both of them for virtually the entire 1st half held their own sports show, talking about the I-A playoffs, the P5 conferences, paying players, anti trust lawsuits, the Little League World Series, and other stuff far more than the game they were covering.
-After you've said for about the 10th time that SHSU has 15 transfers, ok, we got it. You don't need to keep repeating it over and over and over an over...

Although you missed my sarcasm with the comment you quoted, you did perfectly summarize how badly they botched their commentary. The entire 2nd quarter spent talking about the fbs playoffs during an Fcs game was unbearable. It's okay though, they masqueraded the ewu alum Colin cowherd around for what is likely his first return to campus since graduation. In their defense, they're probably given talking points by their producers and they must not deviate from them.
The endless repeating of how Fcs teams benefit from fbs transfers was more than beaten to death. We get it, we must be worthy of the leftover players that they're so kind to throw down to our level.

What is preferred is just good journalism. They do their work when the big boys play. All we ask for is an equal quality of research if they broadcast other non-elite games. Instead they take the lazy route and only broadcast and speak to what is familiar. ESPN was ironically created in part to support college athletics at a time when the major stations would refuse to carry most sports on TV. There should be dedicated broadcasters to the associated sports, and though the quality of those broadcasters may not be as strong for the non-premium games/sports, they could at least intelligently discuss the games, players, and personnel associated with the teams involved.

And yet I get all of the pro-FBS propaganda to some degree. What irks me the most is when they associate FCS with lower academics. I didn't see the broadcast, but I hope none of that was done. For example, during Terrence West's debut in preseason NFL football the announcers mentioned that he could not get offers to a Division I school based on his academic issues so he could only get offers from FCS schools. What a line of BS... even if true about his personal academic situation, the insinuation that all of FCS = lower tier academic institutions is grossly wrong as we all know (Ivies anyone? Patriot League?). However, there are cases where this is true, such as T.O. from UT-Chattanooga. I'm sure they think Alabama and the SEC are top notch schools based on their football teams... ugh.

(08-28-2014 07:14 AM)Yesolitis Wrote:  What is preferred is just good journalism. They do their work when the big boys play. All we ask for is an equal quality of research if they broadcast other non-elite games. Instead they take the lazy route and only broadcast and speak to what is familiar. ESPN was ironically created in part to support college athletics at a time when the major stations would refuse to carry most sports on TV. There should be dedicated broadcasters to the associated sports, and though the quality of those broadcasters may not be as strong for the non-premium games/sports, they could at least intelligently discuss the games, players, and personnel associated with the teams involved.

And yet I get all of the pro-FBS propaganda to some degree. What irks me the most is when they associate FCS with lower academics. I didn't see the broadcast, but I hope none of that was done. For example, during Terrence West's debut in preseason NFL football the announcers mentioned that he could not get offers to a Division I school based on his academic issues so he could only get offers from FCS schools. What a line of BS... even if true about his personal academic situation, the insinuation that all of FCS = lower tier academic institutions is grossly wrong as we all know (Ivies anyone? Patriot League?). However, there are cases where this is true, such as T.O. from UT-Chattanooga. I'm sure they think Alabama and the SEC are top notch schools based on their football teams... ugh.

Like it or not, that is the perception among the less educated, and high school students fall into this category. The typical HS student is well aware that Harvard is the top of the class for academics, but don't even know they have a football team.