This ain't going to help things in Ferguson one bit! Ugh.

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So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police? A place where people attack the police at will and assaults are at an all time high?

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

It's not an issue of whether people should be afraid of the police, and I hope we never are, but it's an issue of whether we respect the police and their authority, and I wish we all did.

Tom, it looks like the video shows exactly what the cops said.. . the guy had a knife, approached the officers, even after the warning, and you hear him say "shoot me now!" and refused to stop.

You might argue that he was walking slow enough to not be a threat, but when he's got a knife in his hand, you can't take that chance.

Cops _look_ like they were in the right from this video.

And he deserved it for coming at them the way he did.



What he felt like:



What he looked like:

(08-21-2014 08:35 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

We shouldn't be, but criminals should....and Tom is the epitome of the kind of people that continue to criticize the police until they are basically useless against criminals. It happened in Europe and the left is repeating the process here. They've even tricked some conservatives into joining their anti police crusade.

Ferguson should be a wakeup call for people who think police are the problem. We have a generation of hoodlums and criminals...raised on violence and broken homes. For God sakes man, people flew in from California and New York to riot and loot. It's evil and it is infecting our country.

They come in huge numbers and are everywhere.

Had that protest spread to other cities, we would be no different than a middle eastern country plagued by turmoil.

I'm tired of the anti cop sentiment. Those people risk their lives every day to keep us safe. The whiny little brats that ***** about the police would be the first people to call the police if when it hits the fan.

Now we have a young officer who was brutally beaten by a thug, almost had his gun stolen and was about to be attacked again. How does this country react? How do we repay this person for putting it on the line for us?

We have the grievance industry in the black community playing the race game damaging our culture. The media helping them...and dumb white liberals all over the place ginning up the anti police, race card rhetoric.

It's pathetic.

(08-21-2014 08:44 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  And he deserved it for coming at them the way he did.



What he felt like:



What he looked like:

(08-21-2014 08:50 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:35 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

We shouldn't be, but criminals should....and Tom is the epitome of the kind of people that continue to criticize the police until they are basically useless against criminals. It happened in Europe and the left is repeating the process here. They've even tricked some conservatives into joining their anti police crusade.

Ferguson should be a wakeup call for people who think police are the problem. We have a generation of hoodlums and criminals...raised on violence and broken homes. For God sakes man, people flew in from California and New York to riot and loot. It's evil and it is infecting our country.

They come in huge numbers and are everywhere.

Had that protest spread to other cities, we would be no different than a middle eastern country plagued by turmoil.

I'm tired of the anti cop sentiment. Those people risk their lives every day to keep us safe. The whiny little brats that ***** about the police would be the first people to call the police if when it hits the fan.

Now we have a young officer who was brutally beaten by a thug, almost had his gun stolen and was about to be attacked again. How does this country react? How do we repay this person for putting it on the line for us?

We have the grievance industry in the black community playing the race game damaging our culture. The media helping them...and dumb white liberals all over the place ginning up the anti police, race card rhetoric.

It's pathetic.

While I have a huge amount of respect for LEO's - my Dad was an MP his entire 25 year career in the army and I have several friends who are cops - I do take exception to the militarization of police departments all across the country as a result of grants and surplus military gear from the DHS. I understand the need for tactical units but not for virtually every cop being armed and outfitted like some service member patrolling the streets of Iraq.

The bottom line for me is that cops have one of the most dangerous and thankless jobs in existence and they deserve a lot more respect than they get overall. I have never had a run in with a cop that wasn't of my own doing. Generally if you react appropriately and respectfully they are by and large reasonable people just trying to do the best they can at a dangerous job. To paint with very broad brush strokes the entirety of police departments across the country for the actions of a tiny percentage is wrong.

(08-21-2014 08:50 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:35 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

We shouldn't be, but criminals should....and Tom is the epitome of the kind of people that continue to criticize the police until they are basically useless against criminals. It happened in Europe and the left is repeating the process here. They've even tricked some conservatives into joining their anti police crusade.

Ferguson should be a wakeup call for people who think police are the problem. We have a generation of hoodlums and criminals...raised on violence and broken homes. For God sakes man, people flew in from California and New York to riot and loot. It's evil and it is infecting our country.

They come in huge numbers and are everywhere.

Had that protest spread to other cities, we would be no different than a middle eastern country plagued by turmoil.

I'm tired of the anti cop sentiment. Those people risk their lives every day to keep us safe. The whiny little brats that ***** about the police would be the first people to call the police if when it hits the fan.

Now we have a young officer who was brutally beaten by a thug, almost had his gun stolen and was about to be attacked again. How does this country react? How do we repay this person for putting it on the line for us?

We have the grievance industry in the black community playing the race game damaging our culture. The media helping them...and dumb white liberals all over the place ginning up the anti police, race card rhetoric.

It's pathetic.

Well said!

(08-21-2014 08:44 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Tom, it looks like the video shows exactly what the cops said.. . the guy had a knife, approached the officers, even after the warning, and you hear him say "shoot me now!" and refused to stop.

Suicide by cop?

(08-21-2014 09:11 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:44 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Tom, it looks like the video shows exactly what the cops said.. . the guy had a knife, approached the officers, even after the warning, and you hear him say "shoot me now!" and refused to stop.

Suicide by cop?

No such thing according to liberals. They'll say that he just wanted to give them a hug and the reason he had a knife was because he was cutting a piece of cake because it was his birthday.

Whoa, after watching the vid I have to say that doesn't match the police version of events. It's hard to reconcile what I just watched with how I feel about cops in general. I will say that in an environment fraught with tension given that Ferguson is so close, that the cops throughout the area are in a heightened state and that any armed person approaching a cop there is likely to experience what that fool just did and that this shouldn't be surprising. If I had someone approaching me with a knife I'd probably react in much the same way but still the question remains why they didn't at least try tazing him first. It's hard making a judgment for me here. It almost looks like suicide by cop.

(08-21-2014 09:11 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:44 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Tom, it looks like the video shows exactly what the cops said.. . the guy had a knife, approached the officers, even after the warning, and you hear him say "shoot me now!" and refused to stop.

Suicide by cop?

Could very well be exactly that. I think they may have overreacted. Who hasn't seen this same scenario played out on the TV show Cops with very different results?

(08-21-2014 08:50 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:35 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

We shouldn't be, but criminals should....and Tom is the epitome of the kind of people that continue to criticize the police until they are basically useless against criminals. It happened in Europe and the left is repeating the process here. They've even tricked some conservatives into joining their anti police crusade.

Ferguson should be a wakeup call for people who think police are the problem. We have a generation of hoodlums and criminals...raised on violence and broken homes. For God sakes man, people flew in from California and New York to riot and loot. It's evil and it is infecting our country.

They come in huge numbers and are everywhere.

Had that protest spread to other cities, we would be no different than a middle eastern country plagued by turmoil.

I'm tired of the anti cop sentiment. Those people risk their lives every day to keep us safe. The whiny little brats that ***** about the police would be the first people to call the police if when it hits the fan.

Now we have a young officer who was brutally beaten by a thug, almost had his gun stolen and was about to be attacked again. How does this country react? How do we repay this person for putting it on the line for us?

We have the grievance industry in the black community playing the race game damaging our culture. The media helping them...and dumb white liberals all over the place ginning up the anti police, race card rhetoric.

It's pathetic.

One problem dude...I'm mostly pro-cop.

Perhaps you should stop trying to read something into every situation? I've posted on many occasions that I'm in favor of distributing these re-purposed leftover urban assault vehicles from the military.

I merely said this probably won't help the tensions in Ferguson as it doesn't look good. I made no judgement whatsoever as to whether or not the cops were in the wrong because I don't have all the facts.

(08-21-2014 09:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  While I have a huge amount of respect for LEO's - my Dad was an MP his entire 25 year career in the army and I have several friends who are cops - I do take exception to the militarization of police departments all across the country as a result of grants and surplus military gear from the DHS. I understand the need for tactical units but not for virtually every cop being armed and outfitted like some service member patrolling the streets of Iraq.

The bottom line for me is that cops have one of the most dangerous and thankless jobs in existence and they deserve a lot more respect than they get overall. I have never had a run in with a cop that wasn't of my own doing.

I have. And it's offensive.

Quote:Generally if you react appropriately and respectfully they are by and large reasonable people just trying to do the best they can at a dangerous job.

Some go out of their way to make the job harder, or to flex their authority.

Quote: To paint with very broad brush strokes the entirety of police departments across the country for the actions of a tiny percentage is wrong.

You say tiny percentage, I say significant amount. Probably majority in some departments.

(08-21-2014 09:18 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 09:11 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:44 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Tom, it looks like the video shows exactly what the cops said.. . the guy had a knife, approached the officers, even after the warning, and you hear him say "shoot me now!" and refused to stop.

Suicide by cop?

No such thing according to liberals. They'll say that he just wanted to give them a hug and the reason he had a knife was because he was cutting a piece of cake because it was his birthday.

Get that weak **** out of here.

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police? A place where people attack the police at will and assaults are at an all time high?

So you want an America where people are afraid of the cops?

(08-21-2014 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:50 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:35 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 08:31 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So are you thinking we should live in a world like Europe where people aren't afraid of the police?

I do. If we're afraid of the police, then something is wrong.

We shouldn't be, but criminals should....and Tom is the epitome of the kind of people that continue to criticize the police until they are basically useless against criminals. It happened in Europe and the left is repeating the process here. They've even tricked some conservatives into joining their anti police crusade.

Ferguson should be a wakeup call for people who think police are the problem. We have a generation of hoodlums and criminals...raised on violence and broken homes. For God sakes man, people flew in from California and New York to riot and loot. It's evil and it is infecting our country.

They come in huge numbers and are everywhere.

Had that protest spread to other cities, we would be no different than a middle eastern country plagued by turmoil.

I'm tired of the anti cop sentiment. Those people risk their lives every day to keep us safe. The whiny little brats that ***** about the police would be the first people to call the police if when it hits the fan.

Now we have a young officer who was brutally beaten by a thug, almost had his gun stolen and was about to be attacked again. How does this country react? How do we repay this person for putting it on the line for us?

We have the grievance industry in the black community playing the race game damaging our culture. The media helping them...and dumb white liberals all over the place ginning up the anti police, race card rhetoric.

It's pathetic.

One problem dude...I'm mostly pro-cop.

Perhaps you should stop trying to read something into every situation? I've posted on many occasions that I'm in favor of distributing these re-purposed leftover urban assault vehicles from the military.

I merely said this probably won't help the tensions in Ferguson as it doesn't look good. I made no judgement whatsoever as to whether or not the cops were in the wrong because I don't have all the facts.

yeah, sure. You are pro cop, yet you repeat the same narrative that the rest of the anti cop loons spout off with.

Instead of praising the cops for doing their best, you decide to post another thread criticizing them. Ferguson is proof we couldn't live in a society without them. We have too many criminals on the loose and the left is to blame.