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RE: Joe and Darren watch
I don't remember seeing Blanchard last night so maybe they've already made their minds up about him but will probably give him some time this week to see if they're going to cut him altogether or not cut/resign to practice squad. Joe did ok last night he did make the big mistake of trying to do something w/ the ball (looked like he was trying to get his arm free to toss it away for an incomplete pass when ball fell out) on the sack that was very close to being a fumble instead of in the grasp that it ended up being.
08-18-2014 11:14 PM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
its very hard for a backup QB to make a NFL team as a free agent
08-19-2014 05:46 AM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
Nearly all beat writers for the Panthers (nfl.com, Charlotte Observer, ESPN, etc.) are saying they will only carry 2 QBs (yes, I became a Panthers fan...mostly due to Luke Keuchly - who is a beast - and that defense as a whole). But the ones that have mentioned Webb have him as a lock for the practice squad with them trading him if his value increases due to injuries as the season progresses. Darrin's injury likely doomed his chances at any spot.
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Re: RE: Joe and Darren watch
(08-18-2014 03:19 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Is it possible they keep joe as another WR or "athlete" without a specified position to keep him as a "hidden" 3rd qb? I really hope he makes the team..

What are reeves chances at making the team?
Can't do that in the NFL. The league doesn't just take rosters "as-is" they strictly enforce how teams report and then use players. Essentially, if they kept Webb on the 53-man as a WR (or OL, RB, etc.), he couldn't even practice as a QB else the team could be fined and probably further punished (though, of course, a team can use anyone at QB in a game if BOTH guys on the roster went down). He'll be of more value to the Panthers on the practice squad actually getting reps at QB. Plus, he presents a hell of a challenge to the defense as a scout team QB.
08-19-2014 06:52 AM
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Post: #25
RE: Joe and Darren watch
Joe cant be on the practice squad. You can only be placed on the practice squad during your first two seasons, this is Joe's 3rd season.

There is no longer an emergency QB exception to the 53 man roster either. It used to be the 3rd QB didnt count towards the roster, but if you used him in a game the other two QBs on the roster were not allowed to reenter the game after that point.
Now that spot is just gone, there are 53 spots, and if you want to use three of them on QBs thats your business.
08-19-2014 08:23 AM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
(08-19-2014 08:23 AM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  Joe cant be on the practice squad. You can only be placed on the practice squad during your first two seasons, this is Joe's 3rd season.

There is no longer an emergency QB exception to the 53 man roster either. It used to be the 3rd QB didnt count towards the roster, but if you used him in a game the other two QBs on the roster were not allowed to reenter the game after that point.
Now that spot is just gone, there are 53 spots, and if you want to use three of them on QBs thats your business.

It's his 5th season other than that you're correct
08-19-2014 08:49 AM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
(08-19-2014 08:23 AM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  Joe cant be on the practice squad. You can only be placed on the practice squad during your first two seasons, this is Joe's 3rd season.

There is no longer an emergency QB exception to the 53 man roster either. It used to be the 3rd QB didnt count towards the roster, but if you used him in a game the other two QBs on the roster were not allowed to reenter the game after that point.
Now that spot is just gone, there are 53 spots, and if you want to use three of them on QBs thats your business.

Wasn't aware of the change to the emergency QB rule. I think that the rule of adding a player as, say, a WR but using him as a QB is still there, but in real terms it makes no difference. Teams only keep 2 QBs because they intend on splitting available practice time (i.e., reps), which is limited under the CBA, between the #1 and #2 guy. So keeping Webb as a WR does nothing but bump another WR off. If Webb's not going to get reps at QB, is he one of their best WRs (in other words, if he can't get reps at QB and isn't going to play at WR, why keep him?)? The Panthers don't appear to think so.

Joe can be placed on the practice squad but, due to his length of service, he just has to go through waivers first. So another team could grab him or the Panthers could keep him...which I think they would.
08-19-2014 08:52 AM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
I don't think there is a rule barring players from playing multiple positions. There were some rules in place with the emergency qb rule to prevent circumventing it, but if the jets wanted to put Vick at wr at some point this season, I don't think there is a rule that prohibits it.
08-19-2014 09:34 AM
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(08-19-2014 08:52 AM)blazr Wrote:  Joe can be placed on the practice squad but, due to his length of service, he just has to go through waivers first. So another team could grab him or the Panthers could keep him...which I think they would.

This is incorrect. The practice squad is considered a developmental tool, and as such veteran players are not eligible.
From the rule book:

Quote:A player is eligible if he does not have an accrued season of NFL experience. Players gain an accrued season by being on the active roster for at least six games. Joe has a season of service, and so is ineligible due to this clause.
If a player has one accrued season, they can still be practice squad eligible if they were on the 45-man active gameday roster for less than nine regular season games.
A player is deemed to have served a season on the practice squad if he remains on the practice squad for at least three weeks. Players are eligible to be on the practice squad for two seasons.
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
(08-19-2014 09:34 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I don't think there is a rule barring players from playing multiple positions. There were some rules in place with the emergency qb rule to prevent circumventing it, but if the jets wanted to put Vick at wr at some point this season, I don't think there is a rule that prohibits it.

There isnt a rule against playing multiple positions. There is just a rule saying that there can only be 53 players on the roster.
The best argument for keeping Joe on the 53 man roster is that he has the physical tools to play on special teams coverage units.

The downside to this is that A) they havent been letting him practice on special teams. and B) there would probably be more value in using that roster spot on an extra DB or Linebacker that has a better chance of playing week to week on defense in addition to special teams.
08-19-2014 09:57 AM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
Within NFL rules or not, most teams keep a guy around that can play QB in a pinch. See Charlie Batch - Pittsburgh, & Jeff Garcia at Philly & San Francisco.

It is the kind of job where the GM calls and says "if you are not real busy over at the radio station or beer distributorship, come on down and see if this helmet still fits."
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
It's weird to me how many people misspell Darrin and/ or Reaves. I see a lot of "Reeves" on this board.
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
(08-19-2014 09:57 AM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  
(08-19-2014 09:34 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I don't think there is a rule barring players from playing multiple positions. There were some rules in place with the emergency qb rule to prevent circumventing it, but if the jets wanted to put Vick at wr at some point this season, I don't think there is a rule that prohibits it.

There isnt a rule against playing multiple positions. There is just a rule saying that there can only be 53 players on the roster.
The best argument for keeping Joe on the 53 man roster is that he has the physical tools to play on special teams coverage units.

The downside to this is that A) they havent been letting him practice on special teams. and B) there would probably be more value in using that roster spot on an extra DB or Linebacker that has a better chance of playing week to week on defense in addition to special teams.

Agree with all of that. I was just stating I didn't think there was a rule that banned it. I do know with the emergency qb position there were specific limits as to how you could label those 3 guys. But there have been instances in the nfl when guys have switched positions overnight. I'm still kind of sold on a day when we see a guy like Peyton line up with a guy like Mike Vick next to him. Also, when the wildcat was big we saw qbs line up out wide when the formation changed.
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
I like the original Darren better than the new Darren.
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Joe can always try the cfl. He would be suited to that game
08-19-2014 08:26 PM
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RE: Joe and Darren watch
Panthers traded Kenjon Barner to Eagles, giving Reaves less competition.
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