If they could kill Jesus, they can kill anyone.

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(07-23-2014 09:32 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's ridiculus. Take Isreal out if the equation . What if Russia did this to Ukranians. I think the righties in here are so much in Isreals pocket they can do no wrong.

OK, what could Israel do that would respond to the missile attacks in a way that would satisfy you?

You can't fire missiles into Apartment buildings filled with innocent people. Start there. Put drones into the air with hellfire missiles. See a battery take it out.

YOU DON"T PUT MISSILES INTO APARTMENT BUILDINGS. That's freaking common sense if you have any speck of care in sparing innocent life. Whoever the decision makers over there need to be relieved of duty ASAP.

(07-23-2014 10:29 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You can't fire missiles into Apartment buildings filled with innocent people. Start there. Put drones into the air with hellfire missiles. See a battery take it out.
YOU DON"T PUT MISSILES INTO APARTMENT BUILDINGS. That's freaking common sense if you have any speck of care in sparing innocent life. Whoever the decision makers over there need to be relieved of duty ASAP.

OK, so you let them store missiles and don't take out their storage facilities?

See, I have a very different concept. I think any weapons storage facility is a legitimate military target. My primary concern is minimizing casualties to my side. And destroying missiles before they can be used is better than waiting until they are in use.

Remember that the first clear violation of international law here is the act of storing weapons in schools and hospitals and mosques and apartment buildings. Once that occurs, there is mixed opinion what obligations international law imposes on the other side.

Personally, I think if weapons are stored there, that makes them fair game. That is the only policy that has a chance of ending the practice.

Here's a policy change I would make. Democracy for all. Democracy is a basic human right. If you're scared of what the Palestinian elected government will do to you, good. That's a great incentive to stop mistreating them. STOP SHOOTING MISSILES into Apartment buildings. You easily state that it was storing munitions without ANY EVIDENCE. It's quite clear that these people are second class citizens in Israeli eyes. It's an Apartheid state there now. That HAS TO END!

(07-23-2014 10:29 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You can't fire missiles into Apartment buildings filled with innocent people. Start there. Put drones into the air with hellfire missiles. See a battery take it out.

YOU DON"T PUT MISSILES INTO APARTMENT BUILDINGS. That's freaking common sense if you have any speck of care in sparing innocent life. Whoever the decision makers over there need to be relieved of duty ASAP.

Yes you can, that is where Hamas launches their rocket attacks from. You libs keep falling into their human shield woe is me defense. The USA has killed millions of innocents over the years, Israel nowhere close to that. Considering the USA war crimes, I am confiscating all of your money, see how easy that is. Why do you not condem Hamas attacks on Israel?

the Palestinians need to study Mandella and MLK.

(07-23-2014 10:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Here's a policy change I would make. Democracy for all. Democracy is a basic human right. If you're scared of what the Palestinian elected government will do to you, good. That's a great incentive to stop mistreating them. STOP SHOOTING MISSILES into Apartment buildings. You easily state that it was storing munitions without ANY EVIDENCE. It's quite clear that these people are second class citizens in Israeli eyes. It's an Apartheid state there now. That HAS TO END!

Hamas stop your terrorist attacks on Israel, you big lib pu ss y

I just want to point out AGAIN. you have zero evidence that munitions were stored in this building. If you do come out with it. If not condemn it.

(07-23-2014 05:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  It is worth pointing out that asymmetric warfare usually involves a lot of unconventional tactics that are actually prohibited by the so called laws of war. Some basic unlawful approaches include the use of civilian settlements as military bases. In the modern world psychological and propaganda tactics are often used by the different sides as part of their strategies for winning a war. In many cases the social media is an extremely important tool. It is becoming increasingly used in this type of modern warfare.

Yep.

Will the Palestinians Take Israel to the ICC? Probably Not. | World Affairs Journal

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/...obably-not Wrote:Ever since Palestine secured “non-Member Observer State” status at the United Nations General Assembly in 2012, that option has been open to President Mahmoud Abbas. It would be a popular move among many ordinary Palestinians and Western human rights activists. In May, 17 groups, including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, implored the Palestinians to prosecute Israel at the International Criminal Court. “Twenty years of peace talks have brought neither peace nor justice,” said Joe Stork, of Human Rights Watch.

But in an astonishing admission this week, the Palestinian representative to the UN Human Rights Council, Ambassador Ibrahim Khraishi, suggested that things are not so simple. (Watch the YouTube clip here.)

Speaking on July 9th to Palestinian Authority TV, Khraishi told a very blunt and very inconvenient truth: the rockets fired from Gaza toward Israel are “each and every one a crime against humanity whether it hits or misses, because it is directed at civilian targets.” While he argued that settlements were also a crime against humanity, he challenged the idea that ICC prosecutions would be a one-way street. Noting that he was not a candidate in any elections, and so he could speak the truth, he went on:

Quote:Many of our people in Gaza appeared on TV and said that the Israelis warned them to evacuate their homes before the bombardment. In such a case, if someone is killed, the law considers it a mistake rather than an intentional killing because [the Israelis] followed the legal procedures. As for the missiles launched from our side, we never warn anyone about where these missiles are about to fall or about the operations we carry out.

He concluded with a plea: “people should know more before they talk emotionally about appealing to the ICC.”

(07-23-2014 10:51 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I just want to point out AGAIN. you have zero evidence that munitions were stored in this building. If you do come out with it. If not condemn it.

You have zero evidence that weapons were not stored in that building. See how easy that is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/world/....html?_r=1


They killed 50 some people. Leveled homes because of one HAMAS leader. Not munitions. Not a weapons depot. This is a crime against humanity.

(07-23-2014 10:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  the Palestinians need to study Mandella and MLK.

The Palestinians are pawns. This is not the Palestinians versus Israel, this is Hamas versus Israel. And Hamas is basically a front for Iran. And neither Hamas nor Iran--nor the Arabs--give a rat's ass about the Palestinians.

(07-23-2014 10:55 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/world/....html?_r=1


They killed 50 some people. Leveled homes because of one HAMAS leader. Not munitions. Not a weapons depot. This is a crime against humanity.

They elected a terrorist organization to represent them. Hamas is a crime against humanity.
Their mission statement is to kill every Jew.

You have zero evidence that weapons were not stored in that building. See how easy that is.

Well BRAINIAC we can go by the old tried and true.................


THEY DIDNT FIND ANY FUKEN MISSILES OR MUNITIONS IN THE RUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THE IDF THEMSELVES STATED THEY TARGETED THE MILITARY LEADER...... NOT MUNITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:And neither Hamas nor Iran--nor the Arabs--

Well I don't see HAMAS, nor Iran, Nor ARABS leveling Apartment buildings with missiles. That's square on the IDF.

That's who doesn't give a rat's ass.................

PATHETIC................

(07-23-2014 10:58 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You have zero evidence that weapons were not stored in that building. See how easy that is.

Well BRAINIAC we can go by the old tried and true.................


THEY DIDNT FIND ANY FUKEN MISSILES OR MUNITIONS IN THE RUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THE IDF THEMSELVES STATED THEY TARGETED THE MILITARY LEADER...... NOT MUNITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thousands of rockets fired at Israel, they wait they wait they wait. Time to respond.
You have zero evidence of what was in the terrorists apartment building, or the tunnels below it. Maybe you should join Hamas?

No peace if Hamas lives.

Quote:You have zero evidence that weapons were not stored in that building. See how easy that is.

This might...... might be the dumbest argument ever raised in connection with me on the spin room..............

Seriously how old are you? Are you out of high school?

I need to know what level of intellect I'm dealing with here. Do I dismiss you out of hand or are you just naive?

Holy Crap...... this is like I know you are but what am I defense.

Quote:No peace if Hamas lives.

and do leveling apartment buildings and killing innocents strengthen or weaken HAMAS!!!!!!!!!!!


HONESTLY!!!!!! Can you see past 1+1?