If Kiel is as advertised I think the Cats take it....

(07-22-2014 07:11 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 08:42 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:38 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  http://warrennolan.com/football/2013/npi

ECU finished #18 in the Nolan Power Index (highly factor's SOS in conjunction with winning %) last year with a strength of schedule almost on par with Louisville's. That in conjunction with our returning leadership tells me that our transition to the AAC should go smoothly this year.

Good link. UCF finished 7th!

I know you like the 7th place, but it has UCF below Louisville and Baylor. That seems odd considering UCF beat both of them. Especially odd for Louisville since UCF had the same record, had a better strength of schedule, and was ranked higher in the polls listed.

Formula takes into consideration the margin of victory and Louisville blew out a lot of teams while UCF scraped by some of the lower teams in the AAC.

(07-22-2014 07:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  If Kiel is as advertised I think the Cats take it....

Well we know he's not as good as Golson from ND.

(07-23-2014 09:45 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 07:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  If Kiel is as advertised I think the Cats take it....

Well we know he's not as good as Golson from ND.

well we know he's not as good as golson when he was a true freshmen ...agreed

we also know jamies winston wasnt better than ej manuel as a true freshmen either...

anything else you want to point out?

My prediction is that someone will win the AAC, and that there will be many surprises. Someone expected to be good WILL be bad, and someone expected to be down WILL rise up and challenge for conf. It happens every year and will happen this year. Other than that, it is simply a guess. All we can give our best guesses as to who we think will be at the top. I "think" UH, UCF, UC, and ECU will be near the top, but I gaurantee you that one of those four, maybe more, will not finish in the top 4, and someone else will rise up.

(07-22-2014 07:11 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 08:42 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:38 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  http://warrennolan.com/football/2013/npi

ECU finished #18 in the Nolan Power Index (highly factor's SOS in conjunction with winning %) last year with a strength of schedule almost on par with Louisville's. That in conjunction with our returning leadership tells me that our transition to the AAC should go smoothly this year.

Good link. UCF finished 7th!

I know you like the 7th place, but it has UCF below Louisville and Baylor. That seems odd considering UCF beat both of them. Especially odd for Louisville since UCF had the same record, had a better strength of schedule, and was ranked higher in the polls listed.

Yea, that entire ranking system is completely wacked.

(07-23-2014 09:49 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 09:45 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 07:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  If Kiel is as advertised I think the Cats take it....

Well we know he's not as good as Golson from ND.

well we know he's not as good as golson when he was a true freshmen ...agreed

we also know jamies winston wasnt better than ej manuel as a true freshmen either...

anything else you want to point out?

bingo


again...i said IF he's as advertised we will be the team to beat. Lets see how does in live fire exercises.

ECU
Houston
Uc
UCf

I really think any four can win depending on injuries. I hope I am wrong but don't see any other team having a chance this year to win the AAC

UH: What is your defense looking like...realistically.

We all know you all will score some points.

(07-18-2014 02:52 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  Those records are pretty optimistic. Last year the bottom of this conference struggled with FCS and bottom of the barrel FBS opponents.

#1 UCF - Hail to the King, baby
#2 Houston - O'Korn and Greenberry keep DBs up at night
#3 Cincy - Guys please beat both Miamis
#4 ECU - Would be higher, but docked them points for losing to Marshall
#5 Temple - PJ Walker is one of the best QBs in the league
#6 Memphis - Solid on both sides of the ball
#7 Tulane - Bringing back their best team in years, has new stadium mojo
#8 UConn - Became a different team after P.P. was fired
#9 Tulsa - Not sure why they fell apart last year
#10 USF - Guys please don't lose to any FCS teams this year
#11 SMU - They hate their coach, that can't be good for morale

So we get docked points for losing to a 10 win team on the road where a lot of teams struggle in late November but you give Cincy a pass for losing to crap like 3 win USF or Illinois.

We didn't lose to a bad team. We lost our only 2 other games to Bowl teams by 8 points combined.

(07-23-2014 03:46 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UH: What is your defense looking like...realistically.

We all know you all will score some points.

most people are actually more confident in our defense than our offense, mainly because our DC is really good, he was an elite level DC in the big 10/sec before trying NFL (and that not going as planned)

he came in never having a defense ranked worse than top 30 in points allowed, and a year ago before he came we were ranked 110 and despite only being here 1 year his streak is still alive as we turned turned from ranked 110 to a team ranked 20 in total defense in 1 year

mix that with the fact we lost almost NO ONE on defense and that most of our best players last year were young and inexperienced, most of our fans are really amped about our defense (and think this will be our best defense in decades). we return 20 of our entire 22 2-deep. and we lost 2 CBs, and their replacements might actually be better as it will be lee hightower a boise transfer who had to sit out last because of transfer rules , who started every game for boise when he was healthy (he was their when they were a top 25 team) and tyler white a utah transfer who also had to sit out last year (he was our scout team player of the year, so he has some skills).

i think we'll be solid on defense, the question marks as defined by our fans for houston is our OC, who our fans dont like, and okorn growth (despite doing amazing as a true freshmen in comparison to the average true freshmen, statistically no where close to the average Houston qb number wise, keenum spoilt the fanbase with 5000yd seasons so 3000 to them feels of disappointment )

(07-23-2014 03:55 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 02:52 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  Those records are pretty optimistic. Last year the bottom of this conference struggled with FCS and bottom of the barrel FBS opponents.

#1 UCF - Hail to the King, baby
#2 Houston - O'Korn and Greenberry keep DBs up at night
#3 Cincy - Guys please beat both Miamis
#4 ECU - Would be higher, but docked them points for losing to Marshall
#5 Temple - PJ Walker is one of the best QBs in the league
#6 Memphis - Solid on both sides of the ball
#7 Tulane - Bringing back their best team in years, has new stadium mojo
#8 UConn - Became a different team after P.P. was fired
#9 Tulsa - Not sure why they fell apart last year
#10 USF - Guys please don't lose to any FCS teams this year
#11 SMU - They hate their coach, that can't be good for morale

So we get docked points for losing to a 10 win team on the road where a lot of teams struggle in late November but you give Cincy a pass for losing to crap like 3 win USF or Illinois.

We didn't lose to a bad team. We lost our only 2 other games to Bowl teams by 8 points combined.

my problem with you is you literally know nothing about any of the other teams besides ECU and you mouth off using basic info without any of the legitmate reasons why

when tubbs first went to cincy he was trying to implement a pro-style offense which he had at auburn and more fit the original starter munchie. but it wasnt very good and went to worse when munchie went down for the year. after losing to USF they completely changed everything and switched to the air raid/spread he ran at tech and the team looked completely different and went from one of the worst offense in the league to one of the best ..you arent going to be playing pro-style cincy , so im not sure what that has to do with future projections

and way to use "bowl" teams instead of saying tulane ..

(07-23-2014 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  my problem with you is you literally know nothing about any of the other teams besides ECU and you mouth off using basic info without any of the legitmate reasons why

I know plenty, like they lost to some crap teams and lost to UNC badly and we beat UNC badly, yet everyone wants to believe they are better because of whatever rational you dream up. Losing to a 10 win Marshall team on the road is worse than any of their losses? Get real.

Quote:when tubbs first went to cincy he was trying to implement a pro-style offense which he had at auburn and more fit the original starter munchie. but it wasnt very good and went to worse when munchie went down for the year. after losing to USF they completely changed everything and switched to the air raid/spread he ran at tech and the team looked completely different and went from one of the worst offense in the league to one of the best ..you arent going to be playing pro-style cincy , so im not sure what that has to do with future projections

and way to use "bowl" teams instead of saying tulane ..

I also know you are a walking book of of excuses for every team. You are so quick to give some horrible teams that lost to FCS crap passes but then kill us for a 3 OT 3 point loss on the road to a 7-6 Tulane who also beat 9-4 North Texas. Give me a break, they didn't lose 55-13 to McNeese State like you have to prop up teams like USF, that's for sure.

(07-23-2014 05:03 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  my problem with you is you literally know nothing about any of the other teams besides ECU and you mouth off using basic info without any of the legitmate reasons why

I know plenty, like they lost to some crap teams and lost to UNC badly and we beat UNC badly, yet everyone wants to believe they are better because what, who knows.

Quote:when tubbs first went to cincy he was trying to implement a pro-style offense which he had at auburn and more fit the original starter munchie. but it wasnt very good and went to worse when munchie went down for the year. after losing to USF they completely changed everything and switched to the air raid/spread he ran at tech and the team looked completely different and went from one of the worst offense in the league to one of the best ..you arent going to be playing pro-style cincy , so im not sure what that has to do with future projections

and way to use "bowl" teams instead of saying tulane ..

I also know you are a walking book of of excuses for every team. You are so quick to give some horrible teams that lost to FCS crap passes but then kill us for a 3 OT 3 point loss on the road to a 7-6 Tulane. Give me a break, they didn't lose 55-13 to McNeese State like you have to prop up teams like USF, that's for sure.

Wow, that game bothers you so much. I hope you don't hurt yourself after USF beats ECU this year.

(07-23-2014 05:03 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  my problem with you is you literally know nothing about any of the other teams besides ECU and you mouth off using basic info without any of the legitmate reasons why

I know plenty, like they lost to some crap teams and lost to UNC badly and we beat UNC badly, yet everyone wants to believe they are better because of whatever rational you dream up. Losing to a 10 win Marshall team on the road is worse than any of their losses? Get real.

Quote:when tubbs first went to cincy he was trying to implement a pro-style offense which he had at auburn and more fit the original starter munchie. but it wasnt very good and went to worse when munchie went down for the year. after losing to USF they completely changed everything and switched to the air raid/spread he ran at tech and the team looked completely different and went from one of the worst offense in the league to one of the best ..you arent going to be playing pro-style cincy , so im not sure what that has to do with future projections

and way to use "bowl" teams instead of saying tulane ..

I also know you are a walking book of of excuses for every team. You are so quick to give some horrible teams that lost to FCS crap passes but then kill us for a 3 OT 3 point loss on the road to a 7-6 Tulane who also beat 9-4 North Texas. Give me a break, they didn't lose 55-13 to McNeese State like you have to prop up teams like USF, that's for sure.

its not called excuses its called analysis, if for some reason someone put ecu bottom half of the league for not even being able to get to the conference championship of pretty horrible c-usa (a c-usa where houston blew out its champ and c-usa west #2 team on its true freshmens qb's 1st and second ever start).. id have "excuses" for ecu on why i think they are still a top 4 team in this league

(07-23-2014 10:31 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  My prediction is that someone will win the AAC, and that there will be many surprises. Someone expected to be good WILL be bad, and someone expected to be down WILL rise up and challenge for conf. It happens every year and will happen this year. Other than that, it is simply a guess. All we can give our best guesses as to who we think will be at the top. I "think" UH, UCF, UC, and ECU will be near the top, but I gaurantee you that one of those four, maybe more, will not finish in the top 4, and someone else will rise up.

I agree. That team is most likely UH. We will drop to 5 or 6 in the conference.

(07-23-2014 05:22 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 10:31 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  My prediction is that someone will win the AAC, and that there will be many surprises. Someone expected to be good WILL be bad, and someone expected to be down WILL rise up and challenge for conf. It happens every year and will happen this year. Other than that, it is simply a guess. All we can give our best guesses as to who we think will be at the top. I "think" UH, UCF, UC, and ECU will be near the top, but I gaurantee you that one of those four, maybe more, will not finish in the top 4, and someone else will rise up.

I agree. That team is most likely UH. We will drop to 5 or 6 in the conference.

are you just going every where down talking houston???? you are doing the same thing in the c-usa threads..

why are you doing this?..we dont get any elemnet of surprises if random fans think we are weak.

and actually being projected horrible in college football is bad as it means you have to climb longer before you can into get into rankings.

i understand not uptalking your team like SJ, but saying everywhere you that your team will fall dramatically lower than expected, saying we'll lose to teams that we'll be double digit favorites to, makes me question them as fans

(07-23-2014 05:21 PM)pesik Wrote:  its not called excuses its called analysis, if for some reason someone put ecu bottom half of the league for not even being able to get to the conference championship of pretty horrible c-usa (a c-usa where houston blew out its champ and c-usa west #2 team on its true freshmens qb's 1st and second ever start).. id have "excuses" for ecu on why i think they are still a top 4 team in this league

Whatever. Conference is just one part of a season and isn't the end all be all of a season, most of the time it's not even friggen apples to apples. Houston for example lost the conference championship to USM and still ranked higher in every poll there was at the end of the year and clearly had a better season. USM who lost to god awful 3-9 UAB no less and even after beating Houston had more CUSA losses.

Who cares. We still had the only CUSA team getting votes in both polls and ranked higher in ever BCS computer than any CUSA team. We won 10 games and beat North Carolina and NC State on the road beat two teams that beat Marshall which was really the only bad loss, and lost the other two games by a combined 8 points to 7 win Virginia Tech and Tulane. We destroyed all the 3 win piles of crap like Temple and USF on our schedule, certainly did not lose to them.

It's just amazing how you can rationalize every crappy loss for someone like Cincy even when we blew out a team that blew them out and didn't have these WTF kinds of losses to crap like USF that were blown out by FCS schools. You can preach how great teams like this and Temple really were but when you lose to 1-11 Idaho or that bad to FCS you just look ignorant. You'll give them every pass in the book but then rationalize why we are not a top team because we lost to friggen Marshall (10-4) or Tulane(7-6) on the road. Give me a break.

Jeez... Whole lotta butt-hurt on the past two pages for a silly pre-season opinion thread... What was that about not questioning Cincinnati's dominance?

(07-23-2014 05:41 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 05:21 PM)pesik Wrote:  its not called excuses its called analysis, if for some reason someone put ecu bottom half of the league for not even being able to get to the conference championship of pretty horrible c-usa (a c-usa where houston blew out its champ and c-usa west #2 team on its true freshmens qb's 1st and second ever start).. id have "excuses" for ecu on why i think they are still a top 4 team in this league

Whatever. Conference is just one part of a season and isn't the end all be all of a season, most of the time it's not even friggen apples to apples. Houston for example lost the conference championship to USM and still ranked higher in every poll there was at the end of the year and clearly had a better season. USM who lost to god awful 3-9 UAB no less and even after beating Houston had more CUSA losses. Who cares.

We still had the only CUSA team getting votes in both polls and ranked higher in ever BCS computer than any CUSA team. We won 10 games and beat North Carolina and NC State on the road beat two teams that beat Marshall, lost the other two games by a combined 8 points to 7 win Virginia Tech and Tulane. It's just amazing how you can rationalize every crappy loss for someone like Cincy even when we blew out a team that blew them out and didn't have these WTF kinds of losses to crap like USF that were blown out by FCS schools.

you were destroyed by marshall who was destroyed by rice
you lost to tulane, do you really have the right to criticize anyones loses.. no one here thinks marshall is anything special..

if you don't consider losing to tulane and getting annihilated by marshall "WTF" losses i don't know what to tell you

you played an unrealistically close game with ohio who was blown by almost everyone else in your bowl game .. no one here is remotely impressed with the ncstate win and though impressive the unc win was when the team was crumbling and UNC was still a 7-6 team that lost to goergia tech....no one else you beat was even remotely impressive because they were bad teams

you are trying so hard to downgrade other teams when ecu's resume has as many holes