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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
I think it's good for CUSA but no where near as good as Tallgrass thinks. It's the lower tier games. It's impact on the TV negotiations is only going to be positive if these games produce decent ratings.

I think it's a plus because it will be available to a whole lot more folks than CSS was.
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I like it as this picks up the slack and is an upgrade from CSS IMO. Thinking out loud here about how CUSA has morphed over the years...from a more national to a more compact/regional league and how TV has mirrored that move. What that means for dollars I have no idea, but, if students, recruits, supporters and alumni are mostly local/regional, then it seems to fill the need.

This is almost the opposite situation from when the AAC/BigEast syndicated game of the week moved off of locals to CBSSN. There were some complaining that it wouldn't be shown on local channels while out of area fans were happy. There's a pro and a con to everything.
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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 11:41 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to CUSA!!! This comes as no surprise to me as the retooled and rearmed CUSA is well situated for future progress. This deal, in addition to the additional exposure provided, should help boost CUSA in its upcoming tv negotiations with its primary tv partners.

NEW SPORTS NETWORK LAUNCHED TODAY
http://csnbbs.com/thread-695295.html

Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

I agree that it helps in the sense that it gives C-USA more options when we begin to negotiate our new deal, but I don't know if it will help to increase the amount of money we will be paid for those primary rights. C-USA needs to win most of the games on our OOC schedules, and finish the season with at least 2 ranked team. Success will drive up interest in our games and increase viewership. Increasing viewership is the key to increasing the value of our next T.V. deal.
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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-17-2014 01:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 11:41 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to CUSA!!! This comes as no surprise to me as the retooled and rearmed CUSA is well situated for future progress. This deal, in addition to the additional exposure provided, should help boost CUSA in its upcoming tv negotiations with its primary tv partners.

NEW SPORTS NETWORK LAUNCHED TODAY
http://csnbbs.com/thread-695295.html

Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

I agree that it helps in the sense that it gives C-USA more options when we begin to negotiate our new deal, but I don't know if it will help to increase the amount of money we will be paid for those primary rights. C-USA needs to win most of the games on our OOC schedules, and finish the season with at least 2 ranked team. Success will drive up interest in our games and increase viewership. Increasing viewership is the key to increasing the value of our next T.V. deal.

Correction of my error. CUSA has four TV partners and not three as I stated above: ESPN, FOX, CBSSports, and Sinclair. Regarding winning games, CUSA's west performance against Houston, Tulane, and Tulsa last year spoke volumes. And, of course, other significant CUSA victories through out the conference as well. I would also cite UNT's bowl victory as a very nice positive as well.
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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-17-2014 01:27 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 01:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

I agree that it helps in the sense that it gives C-USA more options when we begin to negotiate our new deal, but I don't know if it will help to increase the amount of money we will be paid for those primary rights. C-USA needs to win most of the games on our OOC schedules, and finish the season with at least 2 ranked team. Success will drive up interest in our games and increase viewership. Increasing viewership is the key to increasing the value of our next T.V. deal.

Correction of my error. CUSA has four TV partners and not three as I stated above: ESPN, FOX, CBSSports, and Sinclair. Regarding winning games, CUSA's west performance against Houston, Tulane, and Tulsa last year spoke volumes. And, of course, other significant CUSA victories through out the conference as well. I would also cite UNT's bowl victory as a very nice positive as well.

Didn't Houston finish 2-0 vs CUSA West last year, including knocking off the CUSA champ? I believe Tulane finished 5-3 vs CUSA. Yes, CUSA had their way vs Tulsa last year. That was the worst team Tulsa has fielded in years. I was surprised they were so weak after being so strong in 2012.
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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 11:41 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to CUSA!!! This comes as no surprise to me as the retooled and rearmed CUSA is well situated for future progress. This deal, in addition to the additional exposure provided, should help boost CUSA in its upcoming tv negotiations with its primary tv partners.

NEW SPORTS NETWORK LAUNCHED TODAY
http://csnbbs.com/thread-695295.html

Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

Tall, I'll says this deal is a _good_ Thing , but I wouldn't be out popping the champagne corks yet.

_IF_ Sinclair does like CSS did, then it'll be a solid showing on at least some out-of-region games (for those of us who don't live in our school's areas anymore).
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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-17-2014 02:58 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 11:41 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to CUSA!!! This comes as no surprise to me as the retooled and rearmed CUSA is well situated for future progress. This deal, in addition to the additional exposure provided, should help boost CUSA in its upcoming tv negotiations with its primary tv partners.

NEW SPORTS NETWORK LAUNCHED TODAY
http://csnbbs.com/thread-695295.html

Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

Tall, I'll says this deal is a _good_ Thing , but I wouldn't be out popping the champagne corks yet.

_IF_ Sinclair does like CSS did, then it'll be a solid showing on at least some out-of-region games (for those of us who don't live in our school's areas anymore).

My compliments to CUSA Commish, leaders, and fans who are quite careful in their remarks and follow the old marketing axiom: Don't overpromise and under deliver; rather, under promise and over deliver.

Please also remember that a lot of Nbe/AAC folks read interpretations into my remarks that are false. All I have stated to this point is that CUSA's timing for its upcoming tv contract negotiations is good as it allows the retooled and rearmed CUSA time to establish its new identity. The second thing I have said is that new emerging platforms provides CUSA with more opportunities. I have not made a statement regarding the number of games telecast or the monies to be received.

According to Nbe/AAC folks, the worst of the worst got left behind in CUSA; the best left. And, on top of this, CUSA invited IAA teams and SBC teams, a crummy bunch for sure according to Nbe/AAC folks. Now if all this is true, this was a golden opportunity for ESPN and FOX to cancel the current CUSA tv contract and save millions on this worthless crummy lot of woe be gones!!! But ESPN and FOX did not cancel the contract....hmmm????? Maybe CUSA is not so crummy as many Nbe/AAC fans claim?

I very much look forward to this upcoming 2014 CUSA football season and watching the conference develop and progress. I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised, some pleasantly and some not so pleasantly.
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(07-17-2014 03:19 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 02:58 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Not sure why you think this would provide a "boost" for CUSA in their upcoming TV negotiations. It provides no more of a boost than the old CSS did. All this does is get the games that were being aired by now defunct CSS back on the air---which is a great thing for CUSA. It just doesn't have much to do with future TV negotiations.

Frankly, the best things about the deal are it gets more games back on the air and it opens up better time slots for televised CUSA games. I don't see it playing any factor in future TV negotiations.

I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

Tall, I'll says this deal is a _good_ Thing , but I wouldn't be out popping the champagne corks yet.

_IF_ Sinclair does like CSS did, then it'll be a solid showing on at least some out-of-region games (for those of us who don't live in our school's areas anymore).

My compliments to CUSA Commish, leaders, and fans who are quite careful in their remarks and follow the old marketing axiom: Don't overpromise and under deliver; rather, under promise and over deliver.

Please also remember that a lot of Nbe/AAC folks read interpretations into my remarks that are false. All I have stated to this point is that CUSA's timing for its upcoming tv contract negotiations is good as it allows the retooled and rearmed CUSA time to establish its new identity. The second thing I have said is that new emerging platforms provides CUSA with more opportunities. I have not made a statement regarding the number of games telecast or the monies to be received.

According to Nbe/AAC folks, the worst of the worst got left behind in CUSA; the best left. And, on top of this, CUSA invited IAA teams and SBC teams, a crummy bunch for sure according to Nbe/AAC folks. Now if all this is true, this was a golden opportunity for ESPN and FOX to cancel the current CUSA tv contract and save millions on this worthless crummy lot of woe be gones!!! But ESPN and FOX did not cancel the contract....hmmm????? Maybe CUSA is not so crummy as many Nbe/AAC fans claim?

I very much look forward to this upcoming 2014 CUSA football season and watching the conference develop and progress. I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised, some pleasantly and some not so pleasantly.

I think it is important to note that the games scheduled on the ASN don't overlap each other. They are scheduled mostly as double headers. I think they will be carried across the Sinclair owned stations, and simulcast on stations not owned by Sinclair in places like Dallas and Houston. I think all, if not most, third tier C-USA games will be available on local stations within the geography of C-USA.
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(07-17-2014 04:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 03:19 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 02:58 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:36 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 12:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I agree. I don't see how this deal enhances C-USA's position in signing a new deal media deal for out 1st tier rights. But, I do see many positives.

It could open new markets, if Sinclair simulcasts some of these games on stations they own outside of current C-USA markets. Not saying they will, but they could.

I think this is better than the old CSS deal. CSS was on cable and not every subscriber could get it. Sinclair seems to be able to air these games live in our markets outside of pay T.V. services. I think that is huge. This deal will expose our programs to a larger portion of our markets than the CSS did, and it puts more C-USA games on T.V. than we had last season.

Also, C-USA is ASN's top football conference. We should get the best times and receive strong promotions on their stations leading up to kickoffs. And, many of these Sinclair stations are CW affiliates. They produce their own evening newscasts, so we should see solid media coverage from those stations too. I think it is a much better situation than we had with CSS.

The Sinclair/CUSA agreement reminds me of the BE/FOX deal which came out of the blue; no one expected it. CUSA is now well positioned for its future contract negotiations with all three of its broadcast partners.

Tall, I'll says this deal is a _good_ Thing , but I wouldn't be out popping the champagne corks yet.

_IF_ Sinclair does like CSS did, then it'll be a solid showing on at least some out-of-region games (for those of us who don't live in our school's areas anymore).

My compliments to CUSA Commish, leaders, and fans who are quite careful in their remarks and follow the old marketing axiom: Don't overpromise and under deliver; rather, under promise and over deliver.

Please also remember that a lot of Nbe/AAC folks read interpretations into my remarks that are false. All I have stated to this point is that CUSA's timing for its upcoming tv contract negotiations is good as it allows the retooled and rearmed CUSA time to establish its new identity. The second thing I have said is that new emerging platforms provides CUSA with more opportunities. I have not made a statement regarding the number of games telecast or the monies to be received.

According to Nbe/AAC folks, the worst of the worst got left behind in CUSA; the best left. And, on top of this, CUSA invited IAA teams and SBC teams, a crummy bunch for sure according to Nbe/AAC folks. Now if all this is true, this was a golden opportunity for ESPN and FOX to cancel the current CUSA tv contract and save millions on this worthless crummy lot of woe be gones!!! But ESPN and FOX did not cancel the contract....hmmm????? Maybe CUSA is not so crummy as many Nbe/AAC fans claim?

I very much look forward to this upcoming 2014 CUSA football season and watching the conference develop and progress. I think a lot of folks are going to be surprised, some pleasantly and some not so pleasantly.

I think it is important to note that the games scheduled on the ASN don't overlap each other. They are scheduled mostly as double headers. I think they will be carried across the Sinclair owned stations, and simulcast on stations not owned by Sinclair in places like Dallas and Houston. I think all, if not most, third tier C-USA games will be available on local stations within the geography of C-USA.

Time has gotten the better of me and someone who recalls correctly, please correct what I am about to say. I THINK(?) CUSA had to make a decision in the last tv contract negotiations of appearances versus money. I am speculating the Sinclair outlet provides an answer to the appearances side of the tv contract situation.

In looking at the Sinclair tv schedule, I note there are three Saturdays with three CUSA telecasts, two Saturdays have only 1 CUSA telecast, and 10 Saturdays with 2 CUSA telecasts. So, basically, CUSA is getting 2 telecasts each Saturday with Sinclair.

CUSA has four tv partners, ESPN, FOX, CBSSports, and Sinclair. CUSA, with 14 members, will have 7 football conference games to telecast each weekend. So it appears CUSA will have a majority of its football games telecast.

The CUSA announcement states 100 events telecast. So Sinclair will probably provide a very nice boost in CUSA basketball for both men and women.

The Sinclair tv contract is for two years which coincides with the end of the ESPN and FOX tv contracts. So now everything is timed for CUSA, an opportunity and a challenge. It should be interesting and, while no one knows what the results will be, the timing of the tv contracts seems pretty good.

Here is the official CUSA announcement:
http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/m-fo...14aae.html
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