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RE: CUSA's Upcoming TV negotiations: Observations from SDSU's MWC Revenue
(07-14-2014 09:19 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-12-2014 07:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: (07-12-2014 04:15 PM)bullet Wrote: (07-12-2014 02:57 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: (07-12-2014 02:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Hmm. AAC and CUSA are now shadows of their former selves and the Sunbelt gained ground by adding the two worst programs in FBS along with multiple startup/FCS programs......
Yes, looking just at the last couple of years---it looks like the strong SB programs stayed behind---but the fact is, looking longer term, the strongest historical programs left the Sunbelt. UL-L and Arky State have done well the last few years and will be the SB bell cows if they can continue to perform at that level---but many of the programs that left have a history of performing well and likely will perform well in the future. The new programs coming in are not likely to match them for some time. All the G5's took hits. The MW probably took the least damage since 2011. I think its a special pair of rose colored glasses that allows one to think the Sunbelt alone is somehow different in realignment---having special powers that allow it to add lesser parts and get better.
All I know is the SBC was without a doubt at the bottom of the FBS food chain in football when alignment started and came out of it as the top non-aq last year, after finishing 2nd the year before.
IMO it was a result of keeping their best teams, and sheading a few under performers in football, who were picked up by CUSA.
Don't think there are very many in the national media that don't think GaSo, or AppSt will not exceed any of the departing SBC teams when it comes to football, and sooner rather than later. TxSt also has solid potential.
I focus on teams and all the G5's have some good teams, and some bad teams, and there are only a handful of standouts in G5.
Right now I agree the SBC does not have a real standout team, but I just think they have more of the good ones and fewer of the bad ones going forward than CUSA, and the MAC.
FBS is different than FCS. The same thing that makes you successful at one doesn't make you successful at the other. UCF and UConn basically did nothing in FCS. Idaho was a much better program than Boise when they moved up.
I think the fact that the SBC for years was far and away the worst FBS conference should clear those rose colored glasses about how long it takes to transition to FBS. Rare is the Marshall who comes right up and competes. And they did it with a lot of FBS transfers from when they were still in FCS. More typical are schools that were terrible at first-FIU, FAU, WKU, MTSU, ULM, Idaho, to name a few familiar to Sun Belt fans.
I'm expecting GaSo and AppSt to struggle a little, but still expect the SBC to be better than CUSA, and maybe the MAC this year.
One thing you will notice is that the national media has made it known that they expect both to excel at the FBS level. Not get by mind you, but excel. They are indifferent about all the other FCS call-ups but not these two. Right or wrong, they made themselves special, and their move up caught the national medias attention, as it should.
Again we have discussed the direction this thing was going for the last 2-3 years as far as CUSA, and guess what, they are right where they put themselves....the worse FBS Conference in college football.
CUSA was the worse FBS Conference last year, and the year before and should be worse this year. They lose more than they gain this year, and will take another hit next year. Think someone else has on rose colored glasses.
Again, I'm not that concerned about conferences, and CUSA does have some good teams. How good is your team is all that matters going forward, not what G5 Conference you are in. Does not matter you are G5, and either you win or you are invisible. That is the reality of college football in the post BCS era for all schools, and while it is taking some longer than others to grasp that, they will.
CUSA will be about the same. The Sun Belt will be a lot worse.
Georgia Southern and Appalachian St. are two of the 3 most successful FCS programs of all time. That still doesn't mean they will succeed at the next level. North Carolina is crowded with schools. Georgia Southern has the southern half of talent laden Georgia to themselves, but they are in the middle of nowhere and might not be able to generate the revenue to compete well.
Appalachian St. was 4-8 in FCS last year, so they won't be blowing anyone away. Georgia Southern was only 7-4, not as good as typical. Neither is coming up at a peak. And last year's newbie, Georgia St., was one of the worst teams in FBS or FCS. And the Sun Belt is also adding Idaho (1-11) and New Mexico St. (2-10).
Think you got that backward.
Correct me but CUSA loses Tulsa, Tulane, Houston and ECU, right? Adds WKU, and Old Dominion, Right. Hardly an even swap, and has to add Charlotte next year(you guys are suckers for bad football teams).
SBC loses WKU, adds AppSt, GaSo, Idaho and NMSU, right. Because almost every returning member expects to be as good or better than last year, and even bad football by AppSt, and GaSt standards is good football to most of the CUSA additions , I say there is a chance they might slip a little, but not to the new CUSA standards.
Remember the baseline is CUSA was the worse non-aq Conference last year and the year before, the SBC best last year and 2nd best the year before, and not the imaginary rankings CUSA supporters have been trying to create the last few years on this board.
I have however decided I like to many CUSA teams to bash their Conference, which is a great fit for most of them. I will also add I did not know about the BCS non-aq conference ratings or whatever, until I read about it on AstateNation, so normally I would have had to use one of the other ratings which seem to put the SBC at the bottom by default.
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