(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 10:28 PM)Sam Minuteman Wrote:  Is this a serious question? There is a reason Pitt, Syr, & RU are where they are now and it's not because of basketball. ECU has a great fan base, and Tulsa has had a few good seasons lately but it's really not close. If there are numbers that prove me wrong i'd love to see them.

Kickoff can't come soon enough.

You don't seriously believe Syracuse and Rutgers were football adds? I'll concede Pitt because at least they made multiple BCS bowls, where Rutgers never did and 'Cuse made one. In the 1st year, IIRC.

spoken like a true UCONN homer.

it amazes me how some can be so stupid.

I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

(07-06-2014 10:00 AM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  You don't seriously believe Syracuse and Rutgers were football adds? I'll concede Pitt because at least they made multiple BCS bowls, where Rutgers never did and 'Cuse made one. In the 1st year, IIRC.

spoken like a true UCONN homer.

it amazes me how some can be so stupid.

I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

yep uconn fans ARE delusional.

no one is saying SU football is as nationally relevant as PSU football, but to say that ECU, tulane, or tulsa's football programs are anywhere close to matching the national relevance of SU in football is an absolute joke.

(07-05-2014 11:18 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Which group would you prefer for Football only? Obviously, the latter group is better in a Bball sense, and possibly for $$ from ESPN. But I am glad we have the ones we have from a strictly football prospective. What does the board say?

Well I'll say this...The drop-off from Pitt, SU and Rutgers to Tulane, ECU and Tulsa isn't as great as one might want to believe. The departed schools have a national rep that really gives them a boost.

(07-06-2014 10:24 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:00 AM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  spoken like a true UCONN homer.

it amazes me how some can be so stupid.

I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

yep uconn fans ARE delusional.

no one is saying SU football is as nationally relevant as PSU football, but to say that ECU, tulane, or tulsa's football programs are anywhere close to matching the national relevance of SU in football is an absolute joke.

This isn't the 1960s anymore. Syracuse isn't relevant in football.

(07-06-2014 10:31 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:24 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:00 AM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

yep uconn fans ARE delusional.

no one is saying SU football is as nationally relevant as PSU football, but to say that ECU, tulane, or tulsa's football programs are anywhere close to matching the national relevance of SU in football is an absolute joke.

This isn't the 1960s anymore. Syracuse isn't relevant in football.

They haven't been relevant since Donovan McNabb graduated. The most relevant of the three is probably Rutgers. They've united New Jersey and have developed a solid fan base near a major TV and media market. I hate to say it, but Pitt is just kinda there...

SU, Pitt, WVU and TCU were replaced by UCF, UH, SMU, Temple, Memphis, Navy, BSU and SDSU.

ECU and Tulane replace UL and RU. Tulsa replaced BSU and SDSU.

It's clear there is no one on the ACC board except all the former BE school's fans. Don't worry, people will pay attention to you here.

(07-06-2014 10:31 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:24 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:00 AM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

yep uconn fans ARE delusional.

no one is saying SU football is as nationally relevant as PSU football, but to say that ECU, tulane, or tulsa's football programs are anywhere close to matching the national relevance of SU in football is an absolute joke.

This isn't the 1960s anymore. Syracuse isn't relevant in football.

if you scream loud enough it must be true.........

but in all seriousness SU is clearly on par with your average P5 school ==> even in football. the only people who think the three newest additions are close to SU and/or close to your average P5 school in national football relevance are clearly delusional.

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 10:28 PM)Sam Minuteman Wrote:  Is this a serious question? There is a reason Pitt, Syr, & RU are where they are now and it's not because of basketball. ECU has a great fan base, and Tulsa has had a few good seasons lately but it's really not close. If there are numbers that prove me wrong i'd love to see them.

Kickoff can't come soon enough.

You don't seriously believe Syracuse and Rutgers were football adds? I'll concede Pitt because at least they made multiple BCS bowls, where Rutgers never did and 'Cuse made one. In the 1st year, IIRC.

spoken like a true UCONN homer.

it amazes me how some can be so stupid.

I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

and you're the gold standard of stupidity if you think what I've bolded even remotely contradicts anything I posted. Now go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board, because I won't deal with your kind of stupid.

This is such a homer debate.

Football program in 2014? Syracuse has work to do. And when has Rutgers mattered any more on the national landscape as the 3 new schools entering the conference? The only reason Rutgers has ever and WILL ever mean a damn thing to the NCAA in any capacity is because it's the largest school in the Tri States with big facilities.

At the same time, no one cares about ECU, Tulsa, OR Tulane either. It's just the facts. That's why this is a homer debate that this conference needs to work together to fix.

The six weeks between Mid June and August 1 are the longest of the year as a college football fan.
Fall camp and kickoff can't get her soon enough.

(07-06-2014 10:24 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 10:00 AM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 08:26 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:35 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  spoken like a true UCONN homer.

it amazes me how some can be so stupid.

I don't see anything that contradicts what I've posted. Maybe you should cut back on the insults and prove me wrong. Or, go back to the ACC/We hate UCONN board. Your choice, of course.

then you are more delusional than I thought

Don't kid yourself, there is little value in Cuse football from a national perspective. However, there is no comparison between losing those 3 and gaining the new three. I will forever be in the "no need to expand to 12 for a championship game" camp.

yep uconn fans ARE delusional.

no one is saying SU football is as nationally relevant as PSU football, but to say that ECU, tulane, or tulsa's football programs are anywhere close to matching the national relevance of SU in football is an absolute joke.

no one takes syracuse football seriously. there are schools that wont schedule and actually fear playing ECU. you are the one that is delusional. you were 4-4 in the weak assed ACC and GaTech beat you 56-0 and FSU beat you 59-3. Good god man get a dose of reality.

Play in a dome with no air conditioning named after an air conditioning company. Syracues fans are idiots of the first order.

Syracuse has a big cable market around that toxic waste cesspool of a city. You are the ACC version of Rutgers.

(07-05-2014 11:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 10:28 PM)Sam Minuteman Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 11:18 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Which group would you prefer for Football only? Obviously, the latter group is better in a Bball sense, and possibly for $$ from ESPN. But I am glad we have the ones we have from a strictly football prospective. What does the board say?

Is this a serious question? There is a reason Pitt, Syr, & RU are where they are now and it's not because of basketball. ECU has a great fan base, and Tulsa has had a few good seasons lately but it's really not close. If there are numbers that prove me wrong i'd love to see them.

Kickoff can't come soon enough.

You don't seriously believe Syracuse and Rutgers were football adds? I'll concede Pitt because at least they made multiple BCS bowls, where Rutgers never did and 'Cuse made one. In the 1st year, IIRC.

Syracuse "one" BCS bid is STILL more than the other thre combined. So is their national title And Heisman winner. I can't beleive this is a serious question.

Syracuse is probably the best brand, but 1959 and 1961. Is your TV stuck on ESPN Classic?

There was a time when Syracuse was the worst BCS program in the nation. The Gregg Robinson years were a disaster for the Orange. Eight seasons in a row without a winning a record.

Pitt has been solid but they leave you wanting more. A bunch of good seasons that could have been great with some of the talent they had. Mid 1980's through the 1990's was borderline ugly.

Rutgers had some nice recent history but never won anything of value. The stunk for a long time as well.

(07-05-2014 11:18 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Which group would you prefer for Football only? Obviously, the latter group is better in a Bball sense, and possibly for $$ from ESPN. But I am glad we have the ones we have from a strictly football prospective. What does the board say?

Since the question is football only I'd say ECU and Tulsa are atleast as good as any of the other 3, if not better in some years. Tulane has some work to do in football still IMO.

Given the same or competitive resources I think ECU and Tulsa can go toe to toe with any of the former Big East schools in football.

(07-06-2014 02:06 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  Syracuse is probably the best brand, but 1959 and 1961. Is your TV stuck on ESPN Classic?

No. But even if you use just the last 20 years, the ranking is still the same. At least in terms of Pitt and Syracuse being the best two football programs

RU is no loss at all.

Cuse and Pitt, yeah

but UCF and ECU are nice pick ups

(07-06-2014 10:31 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  This isn't the 1960s anymore. Syracuse isn't relevant in football.

Really? Syracuse had 15 straight winning seasons from 1987-2001 and were ranked a lot of those years.

And after hiring a terrible coach that sank us for a little while Syracuse has come back with 3 bowl wins in the last 4 years.

Syracuse is 7-3 all-time against East Carolina and 8-1 against Tulane.

Syracuse is 15th all-time in wins (705-504-49; .580 win %), they've won a National Championship and have spent 197 weeks in the AP poll.

East Carolina is 108th in all-time wins (415-381-12; .521 win %), 0 Nat'l Championships and only spent 28 weeks in the AP poll.

And don't even get me started on Memphis. I don't know where shere khan gets her sense of entitlement. I've never seen a bigger troll in my life.

By the way East Carolina lost to Tulane last year 36-33. Syracuse beat Tulane 52-17 last year and had their backups in early int he 4th quarter.

But good job going 10-3 against an awful schedule East Carolina.