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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
(06-30-2014 06:06 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (06-30-2014 03:17 PM)nastybunch Wrote: (06-30-2014 02:14 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: Have fun being "the guy who thought Ricky Lloyd could gain 11 yards on a QB sneak" for the next three years, Nastybunch. I can tell you from experience that this is a rhetorical tactic that gets annoying. You've earned it, though. Hope you're having a good day at the gas station.
Even weaker... Gotta get much better. Remember folks, this guy is the one who thought trying a halfback pass in a monsoon against the grain to a quarterback was a great play.... I am still laughing at this guy....and at Johnson and Buckley for calling it after a time out no less....lolololol
Yeah, your QB sneak idea is much better. I mean, no one would have expected Steve Buckley to call a play designed to gain 6 inches on 4th-and-11. No doubt the Louisville defense would have just stood there in shock while Ricky Lloyd motored forward, straight into the end zone. He probably would have just kept running right into the locker room, Henry Ellard-style, and then returned to his home planet via teleportation.
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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
(06-30-2014 07:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote: (06-30-2014 06:06 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (06-30-2014 03:17 PM)nastybunch Wrote: (06-30-2014 02:14 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: Have fun being "the guy who thought Ricky Lloyd could gain 11 yards on a QB sneak" for the next three years, Nastybunch. I can tell you from experience that this is a rhetorical tactic that gets annoying. You've earned it, though. Hope you're having a good day at the gas station.
Even weaker... Gotta get much better. Remember folks, this guy is the one who thought trying a halfback pass in a monsoon against the grain to a quarterback was a great play.... I am still laughing at this guy....and at Johnson and Buckley for calling it after a time out no less....lolololol
Yeah, your QB sneak idea is much better. I mean, no one would have expected Steve Buckley to call a play designed to gain 6 inches on 4th-and-11. No doubt the Louisville defense would have just stood there in shock while Ricky Lloyd motored forward, straight into the end zone. He probably would have just kept running right into the locker room, Henry Ellard-style, and then returned to his home planet via teleportation.
I cant believe that Alford didnt come in the game and run just that a qb sneak draw or somthing where he was gonna carry the ball no matter what.
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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
(06-30-2014 08:12 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: I cant believe that Alford didnt come in the game and run just that a qb sneak draw or somthing where he was gonna carry the ball no matter what.
Well, the "sneak" as I understand it is a short yardage play where the QB just takes the snap and runs forward behind the center. So that wouldn't have worked.
A draw, or some other form of QB keeper play, might have made sense, but remember that Buckley was calling at least a half dozen of those every game. The element of surprise would have been completely missing. My impression is that opponents were all over that play by halftime of the ECU game.
There was no good call in that situation. Buckley tried to manufacture something out of thin air, and I don't fault him for what he tried. It's not like there was a great alternative, or even a decent one. That's where I disagree with Nastybunch, who seems to think that there was.
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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
(06-30-2014 08:29 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: (06-30-2014 08:12 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: I cant believe that Alford didnt come in the game and run just that a qb sneak draw or somthing where he was gonna carry the ball no matter what.
Well, the "sneak" as I understand it is a short yardage play where the QB just takes the snap and runs forward behind the center. So that wouldn't have worked.
A draw, or some other form of QB keeper play, might have made sense, but remember that Buckley was calling at least a half dozen of those every game. The element of surprise would have been completely missing. My impression is that opponents were all over that play by halftime of the ECU game.
There was no good call in that situation. Buckley tried to manufacture something out of thin air, and I don't fault him for what he tried. It's not like there was a great alternative, or even a decent one. That's where I disagree with Nastybunch, who seems to think that there was.
I thought our best option right then was to send as many guys deep and let sunshine find one. But the game was not lost on that play. The bad snap in the end zone did us in a few mins before.
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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
Lol, no, wrong again, as usual Andre. I have said from the beginning that the coaching geniuses we had chose the absolutely worst chance if success in that instance. Relying in someone who never passes to pass to someone who never catches one in a driving rainstorm when the game is on the line. 0-12 makes a lot of sense if that is your best call after a timeout.
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RE: Todd Monken Desperation Plan
(07-01-2014 07:08 AM)nastybunch Wrote: Lol, no, wrong again, as usual Andre. I have said from the beginning that the coaching geniuses we had chose the absolutely worst chance if success in that instance. Relying in someone who never passes to pass to someone who never catches one in a driving rainstorm when the game is on the line. 0-12 makes a lot of sense if that is your best call after a timeout.
You keep saying what was wrong with that play call, but you've said very little about what could have been done differently. I think that says a lot about the kind of person you are.
And you can call him an idiot, but the fact remains that Steve Buckley, until very recently, was paid almost $300,000 per year to coach football, while you make about 10% of that at your Tractor Supply Company job.
That's not some accident of fate, dude. And over time, I'm coming to the realization that the chicken$hit program and school we have now are direct reflections of the people they serve. There's no great mystery or accident of fate at work there either, just a whole lot of sad, impotent old $30,000-per-year tractor salesmen trying to run a university.
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