(06-20-2014 10:19 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  My G5 Top 10...FWIW

1 - Boise State
2 - Cincy
3 - UCF
4 - ECU
5 - Fresno St
6 - Houston
7 - Northern Illinois
8 - UL Lafayette
9 - Marshall
10 - SDSU

I don't understand why ANYONE would put Boise State as the #1 preseason G5 pick. They ended the season with 5 losses and lost to every good team they played. Some of the losses weren't even close: 38-6 to Washington and 37-20 to BYU.

At a minimum UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, and ECU should be ahead of Boise in the preseason rankings.

(06-20-2014 10:18 AM)pesik Wrote:  7) Boise: would have had them higher if not for coaching transition
8b) Ulala: return star qb broadway and competed in close games with top level p5 when he was healthy

Boise and ULL both play @ Ole Miss and they play each other. those 2 could shape this. ULL played Fla close 2 years ago, but were blown out by Ark and K State last. They return almost everyone for this, which figures to be their peak, season.

dd

(06-20-2014 10:19 AM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:28 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  All due respect Cuban, that is like admitting we are a division below the P-5. That is an admission I want no part of.

You might not like it but the facts are that our champ is basically competing for that open slot vs the other G5 champs.

Wow ... a voice of reason for the second time today! Yes, it is no use trying to deny the facts, as the Bearcats fans would. Even though none of us like it, we are indeed in the G5, and we are indeed competing for the G5 automatic Access spot.

My pre-season top 10:

1) Boise State
2) Cincinnati
3) Houston
4) Northern Illinois
5) UCF
6) SDSU
7) Fresno State
8) UL-Lafayette
9) Marshall
10) ECU

In the other thread you said we wouldnt even finish top 4 in the AAC. . . now you rank us top 10 in all of the G5, and behind 3 american team. So which is it???!!

No contradiction. That's my pre-season top 10. If you want my post-season top 10, where I think teams will finish up, ECU isn't in it.

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

(06-20-2014 09:33 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:28 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  All due respect Cuban, that is like admitting we are a division below the P-5. That is an admission I want no part of.

You might not like it but the facts are that our champ is basically competing for that open slot vs the other G5 champs.

Wow ... a voice of reason for the second time today! Yes, it is no use trying to deny the facts, as the Bearcats fans would. Even though none of us like it, we are indeed in the G5, and we are indeed competing for the G5 automatic Access spot.

My pre-season top 10:

1) Boise State
2) Cincinnati
3) Houston
4) Northern Illinois
5) UCF
6) SDSU
7) Fresno State
8) UL-Lafayette
9) Marshall
10) ECU

Boise State will fall out of contention after UCONN beats them at home...

...unless, of course, Boise backs out at the last minute and then sues you while withholding the buyout money stipulated in the contract.

I predict a pissing match with lots of butt hurt in this thread.

(06-20-2014 10:37 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

I don't understand this logic. Football is played over 4 quarters, so how can you discount one quarter over another? What would be the difference if we would of blown them out in the 1st quarter, then UTSA played us even from the 2nd quarter on, and the score ultimately ended up being the same?

Anyway, you call it a UTSA meltdown, I call it UH clamping down and ultimately blowing them out.

UTSA returns a lot, but they lost their star QB, who was admittedly very good and now on UH's coaching staff. If they hope on keeping it close, the next guy in line better be just as good, because they will probably do very little when it comes to stopping us from scoring.

(06-20-2014 11:14 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:37 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

I don't understand this logic. Football is played over 4 quarters, so how can you discount one quarter over another? What would be the difference if we would of blown them out in the 1st quarter, then UTSA played us even from the 2nd quarter on, and the score ultimately ended up being the same?

Anyway, you call it a UTSA meltdown, I call it UH clamping down and ultimately blowing them out.

UTSA returns a lot, but they lost their star QB, who was admittedly very good and now on UH's coaching staff. If they hope on keeping it close, the next guy in line better be just as good, because they will probably do very little when it comes to stopping us from scoring.

You're right, you blew them out in the 4th quarter, partly due to some special teams miscues and turnovers, but still blew them out late regardless. That said, UTSA also defeated Tulane, UNT (bowl teams), blew out Tulsa, and lost to the CUSA champs, Rice, by 6 points, and return 38 seniors...I just think it will be competitve. UH will likely win, possbily by a couple TD's, but Larry Coker will have the Roadrunners ready to play, and it would not shock me at all to see it close. thoughout. IMHO.

Currently as Pre-Season
1) UCF (Despite losing QB & RB, they have the momentum going into next year)
2) Boise St (Better defensive coaching and back to the high octane offense)
3) Cincy (Munchie)
4) Utah St. (Chuckie is back and the defense still strong)
5) Marshall (Cato & Co..)
6) Houston (O'Korn)
next four just to fill out to 10
7) ECU
8) UL-L
9) SDSU
10) UTSA (Being fully transitioned and building on last years experience to challenge the CUSA title.)

(06-20-2014 11:24 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:14 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:37 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

I don't understand this logic. Football is played over 4 quarters, so how can you discount one quarter over another? What would be the difference if we would of blown them out in the 1st quarter, then UTSA played us even from the 2nd quarter on, and the score ultimately ended up being the same?

Anyway, you call it a UTSA meltdown, I call it UH clamping down and ultimately blowing them out.

UTSA returns a lot, but they lost their star QB, who was admittedly very good and now on UH's coaching staff. If they hope on keeping it close, the next guy in line better be just as good, because they will probably do very little when it comes to stopping us from scoring.

You're right, you blew them out in the 4th quarter, partly due to some special teams miscues and turnovers, but still blew them out late regardless. That said, UTSA also defeated Tulane, UNT (bowl teams), blew out Tulsa, and lost to the CUSA champs, Rice, by 6 points, and return 38 seniors...I just think it will be competitve. UH will likely win, possbily by a couple TD's, but Larry Coker will have the Roadrunners ready to play, and it would not shock me at all to see it close. thoughout. IMHO.

You're not giving UH enough credit when you call a blocked kick and INT returned for TDs as "UTSA miscues". UH led the nation last year in turnover margin, after all.

Marshall is an interesting wildcard. I think we have probably 4 teams in the aac that could go undefeated with that schedule. It is going to be interesting on what the committee does with them.

I am not going to call this the G5 top ten and play into the P5/G5 stereotypes, but if you ask me who the best candidates are for the Access bowl slots, here are my best guesses.

UC - Can never pick agains the bearcats, they are a machine
UH - Manageble non conf. schedule sets them up nicely
ECU - Challenging OOC, but will get tremendous leverage if they can navigate it
UCF - Must replace QB/RB. Only reason this low to start off. If they gel could move to top FAST.
Boise St. - Name recognition will go a long ways
Random MWC team - Insert name here of additional MWC team who challenges for MWC title whether USU, Fresno, or whoever. Interchangeable
Marshall - ONLY shot is to go 13-0 and hope AAC and MWC have 2 losses. Schedule is really bad.
ULL - Also need to go 13-0 and hope for major breaks, like everyone above losing multiple games. Sun Belt has no credibility, never had any top 15 teams, or never contended for a BCS bowl before. A lot to overcome.

I really have no one else. I considered some MAC teams and other CUSA teams but I really have no one that seems capable at this time.

(06-20-2014 11:32 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:24 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:14 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:37 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

I don't understand this logic. Football is played over 4 quarters, so how can you discount one quarter over another? What would be the difference if we would of blown them out in the 1st quarter, then UTSA played us even from the 2nd quarter on, and the score ultimately ended up being the same?

Anyway, you call it a UTSA meltdown, I call it UH clamping down and ultimately blowing them out.

UTSA returns a lot, but they lost their star QB, who was admittedly very good and now on UH's coaching staff. If they hope on keeping it close, the next guy in line better be just as good, because they will probably do very little when it comes to stopping us from scoring.

You're right, you blew them out in the 4th quarter, partly due to some special teams miscues and turnovers, but still blew them out late regardless. That said, UTSA also defeated Tulane, UNT (bowl teams), blew out Tulsa, and lost to the CUSA champs, Rice, by 6 points, and return 38 seniors...I just think it will be competitve. UH will likely win, possbily by a couple TD's, but Larry Coker will have the Roadrunners ready to play, and it would not shock me at all to see it close. thoughout. IMHO.

You're not giving UH enough credit when you call a blocked kick and INT returned for TDs as "UTSA miscues". UH led the nation last year in turnover margin, after all.

You're right, your special teams played great in that game. You could term it as UH special teams excellence rather than opponents miscues. BTW, I like UH, and have them as one of the favorites for access bowl this year. I live in SA and have seen UTSA and think they will be very, very good this year though. My only point.

Anyone who doesn't have Marshall in their top 3 hasn't seen their schedule.

(06-20-2014 11:24 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:14 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:37 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Houston has only 1 tough non-conf game...so they have a real good shot at being 4-0 in non-conf play:
TEXAS SAN ANTONIO
Div I -AA GRAMBLING STATE
at BYU
UNLV

IMO, Houston's game against UTSA will not be easy. UTSA went 6-2 last year in CUSA, returns 38 seniors, and predicted by most to win CUSA West. Houston will likely win, but it will likely be competitive. Yes, I know Houston beat UTSA by several TD's last year but the game was tied after 3 quarters and was dead even up until a 4th quarter UtSA meltdown.

I don't understand this logic. Football is played over 4 quarters, so how can you discount one quarter over another? What would be the difference if we would of blown them out in the 1st quarter, then UTSA played us even from the 2nd quarter on, and the score ultimately ended up being the same?

Anyway, you call it a UTSA meltdown, I call it UH clamping down and ultimately blowing them out.

UTSA returns a lot, but they lost their star QB, who was admittedly very good and now on UH's coaching staff. If they hope on keeping it close, the next guy in line better be just as good, because they will probably do very little when it comes to stopping us from scoring.

You're right, you blew them out in the 4th quarter, partly due to some special teams miscues and turnovers, but still blew them out late regardless. That said, UTSA also defeated Tulane, UNT (bowl teams), blew out Tulsa, and lost to the CUSA champs, Rice, by 6 points, and return 38 seniors...I just think it will be competitve. UH will likely win, possbily by a couple TD's, but Larry Coker will have the Roadrunners ready to play, and it would not shock me at all to see it close. thoughout. IMHO.

It may be close, but I don't think it will be. That game was close last year because a 5th year senior QB made play after play for the first 3 quarters. In the 4th, our very deep D-line finally wore down their O-Line. We began to put too much pressure on their QB. He finally buckled and stopped making all those big clutch throws. Without his play during the first 3 quarters, the entire game would have gone the way the 4th quarter did.

By the way, Houston has more returning players than UTSA and we wont be led by a true freshman QB this year. The UTSA game was literally O'Korns 3rd game as a starter. He had all of 7 weeks in the offense since the beginning of camp. This year he will have almost a full season as a starter, a spring camp/game, and a full training camp under his belt. A final factor---don't forget last years game was in San Antonio. We will be at home for this one.