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Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
One for the stat-geeks:
On June 20, 1964, the Yankees played the White Sox in Chicago. Game was scoreless after 10 innings; Yankees scored one in the 11th to win 1-0. Both pitchers hurled complete games (when was the last time you saw a MLB pitch go 11 innings?).
But most impressive to me is that when Whitey Ford got the win, his record improved to 10-1 on the season and 209-79 for his career. Yes, Ford pitched for great teams, but that is still a phenomenal (72.6%) career W-L record.
Ford continued to pitch for a few more years but only went 27-27 after that shutout against the ChiSox. Partly because he wasn't as effective as before, partly because the Yankees declined as a team. Still though, a career record of 236-106 (69.0%).
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-19-2014 10:35 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: One for the stat-geeks:
On June 20, 1964, the Yankees played the White Sox in Chicago. Game was scoreless after 10 innings; Yankees scored one in the 11th to win 1-0. Both pitchers hurled complete games (when was the last time you saw a MLB pitch go 11 innings?).
But most impressive to me is that when Whitey Ford got the win, his record improved to 10-1 on the season and 209-79 for his career. Yes, Ford pitched for great teams, but that is still a phenomenal (72.6%) career W-L record.
Ford continued to pitch for a few more years but only went 27-27 after that shutout against the ChiSox. Partly because he wasn't as effective as before, partly because the Yankees declined as a team. Still though, a career record of 236-106 (69.0%).
One of the interesting things that makes Ford's record even more impressive is that during the years he played for Casey Stengel, he wasn't used like a starter today, every fifth day regardless of opponent. Instead Stengel would manipulate his starting schedule so that he pitched a disproportionate number of games against the best teams in the league. I don't have the stats handy, but Bill James did an analysis and it's really quite amazing how greatly his starts were stacked against the best teams in the league.
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AngryAphid
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
Bob Gibson deserves an honorable mention....don't have the stats, but would make a small wager he pitched 11 or more innings
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
There has been only one pitcher who pitched in all 7 games of the WS....name that pitcher...(hint, he was the set-up man for Eckersley)
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
Gibson was the Atlanta Braves' pitching coach in 82-83-84, the years that Joe Torre was Manager. The teams were decent and actually won the NL West one year, but generally had very weak pitching. I will always remember the announcer Skip Carey asking Gibson (who was 47 yrs old and had been retired 8 years) in all seriousness if he might possibly take the mound as a middle reliever for the Braves every now and then.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
Something similar but in 1938 Cincinnati Reds pitcher Johnny Vander Meer pitched a no hitter against the Boston Bees. Four days later he pitched a no hitter against the Brooklyn Dodgers. He is the only pitcher to ever throw two consecutive no hitters in the major leagues.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 11:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
Over the last 20 plus years the Braves have the worst really good franchise. I Series ring,
and a ton of playoff appearances.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 02:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: (06-20-2014 02:36 PM)tigerjaws Wrote: Bob Gibson deserves an honorable mention....don't have the stats, but would make a small wager he pitched 11 or more innings
Gibson did that at least 9 times in his career…
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/G/PX_gibsb101.htm
in one game (1970) against a very weak Padres team, Gibson actually pitched 14 (!) innings (13 hits, 4 runs, 13 Ks, he got the win): http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1970/...LN1970.htm
First game I ever went to Bob Gibson was the starter vs. the Reds. I still remember him pitching, dude threw hard and was intimidating.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
Gibson did not like batters who tried to dig in or crowd the plate, and never hesitated to use an inside fastball to back them away. He was asked if he would knock his own mother down. He answered, "No, she knows better than to dig in on me."
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 02:46 PM)tigerjaws Wrote: There has been only one pitcher who pitched in all 7 games of the WS....name that pitcher...(hint, he was the set-up man for Eckersley)
I have looked into that a few times since you posted the question... The only answer I can find is Darold Knowles who pitched in all 7 games of the 1973 World Series for the Oakland Athletics, who beat the Amazin' Mets.
Darold Knowles was a solid Major League player and his career lasted 15 years. But I cannot find any connection between him and the great Dennis Eckersley, except for the fact that they both pitched for Oakland at different times.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
He was the setup man for Rollie Fingers.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(10-29-2014 03:44 PM)PlainTiger Wrote: He was the setup man for Rollie Fingers.
Right you are...my error
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 11:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
For an evil team. I loved Jack in 1984.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 03:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (06-20-2014 11:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
Over the last 20 plus years the Braves have the worst really good franchise. I Series ring,
and a ton of playoff appearances.
Nothing is worst about what they did. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Deion, Crimedog, Justice, Nixon, Pendleton, Bream, Javy, Chipper, Avery, Lemke, et all. Those guys are legends. Still played the best baseball game that I've seem in my life.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(06-20-2014 03:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (06-20-2014 11:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
Over the last 20 plus years the Braves have the worst really good franchise. I Series ring,
and a ton of playoff appearances.
For all of the pitching talent, there was only one real fireballer on the staff; Smoltz. All the rest were ball in play pitchers which is fine for the regular season. But come playoff time, those infield dribbers turn into screaming singles down the baselines.
Besides, the AL in my opinion was just better than the NL. IMO, there was only one other WS the Braves had a legit shot at winning and that was the Twin in '91. The Blue Jays and the Yankees were simply better clubs.
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RE: Baseball Trivia: 50 years ago
(10-29-2014 09:57 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (06-20-2014 03:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (06-20-2014 11:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: I tried to block this from my memory... but Jack Morris tallied
10-innings of shutout ball in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series.
Over the last 20 plus years the Braves have the worst really good franchise. I Series ring,
and a ton of playoff appearances.
Nothing is worst about what they did. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Deion, Crimedog, Justice, Nixon, Pendleton, Bream, Javy, Chipper, Avery, Lemke, et all. Those guys are legends. Still played the best baseball game that I've seem in my life.
The best game to watch for me was the Cards disposal of the Texas Rangers in the WS.
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