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Late May Internal Cantor poll had him at +34
How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/
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Ignorance is bliss. The congressional approval rating is near single digits. Throw the bums out.

Polls are fallacious.
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(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

The ignorance is stunning, that's why we elect people not based on previous accomplishments, but some other "set" of criteria that often doesn't have anything to do with the position.

This leads to some crappy elected officials. Sometimes the guy actually does okay - sometimes not. Sometimes they actually grow into the job and sometimes, take Obama for example, they are never really up to the task.
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RE: Late May Internal Cantor poll had him at +34
(06-11-2014 07:42 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

The ignorance is stunning, that's why we elect people not based on previous accomplishments, but some other "set" of criteria that often doesn't have anything to do with the position.

This leads to some crappy elected officials. Sometimes the guy actually does okay - sometimes not. Sometimes they actually grow into the job and sometimes, take Obama for example, they are never really up to the task.

Elections by lottery would produce more qualified candidates.
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(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into that booth at had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another
Keep in mind, "internal" polls are publicized in order to influence the media and potential donors. Not so much to give an accurate snapshot of where the race stands.

I'm sure that Cantor was also taking some "real" polls for his own private use, but those are not the ones that his campaign would share with the public.

Quote:don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".
I suppose that's possible. But I've never heard of something like that being done in one particular congressional district. Seems like that would be a very tough job of organizing. Add in the fact that nobody thought this was going to be a close race, so where was the Dems' motivation to even try it?

To me, I think Cantor is a good Republican who just happened to be on the wrong side of an issue (amnesty) that Republican primary voters care deeply about, and believe (correctly, IMHO) that no one in Washington cares about their point of view. A challenger-candidate emerged who happened to be articulate/informed on this issue, and (at least at first glance) seemed personally appealing.

Quote:I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was.
Not surprising to me in the least. They wouldn't have had any idea who Harry Reid or John Boehner is, either, unless they happened to be from Nevada or SW Ohio. Nancy Pelosi, maybe. But even her, I doubt it.

Quote:Stunning the ignorance of the masses.
I used to be stunned by it. But after 30 years, I've just come to accept that most people do not have the time, inclination, or mental energy to pay attention to national politics, except for about 2 or 3 weeks leading up to a presidential election. The rest of the time, most people's political opinions about "current events" are simply based on instinct, past experience, and how the media is framing the issue, IMHO.
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RE: Late May Internal Cantor poll had him at +34
(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem. The anti-Cantor vote was motivated. Amnesty cost Cantor the election. Had nothing to do with "Operation Chaos".
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Bad news for the liberal agenda
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(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

clearly, his polling operation worked exactly as well as his constituent services operation; that's why he is soon-to-be-former house majority leader.
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Only registered republicans can vote in primaries in VA? Die hards vote in these primaries.
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(06-11-2014 09:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Only registered republicans can vote in primaries in VA? Die hards vote in these primaries.


You don't register as anything in VA. Primaries are open. If there are primaries in both parties, you can only vote in one of them. They ask you which ballot you want at the polls.
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(06-11-2014 09:15 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 09:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Only registered republicans can vote in primaries in VA? Die hards vote in these primaries.


You don't register as anything in VA. Primaries are open. If there are primaries in both parties, you can only vote in one of them. They ask you which ballot you want at the polls.

That may need to change.
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(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

YOU can say that again and again. The dumb masses led by the givers and destroyed by the takers.

The dims did not crossover, as has been implied in some circles. It's a figment of Wasserman - Shultz' imagination.

This was a Republican victory in a heavy Republican district.

Read the headlines here:
http://www.drudgereport.com/
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Did any of you see this.... you should take the time to do so.

https://secure.piryx.com/donate/0aIqxE3m...e/rptvideo
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The more liberal precincts where more democrats would have voted went for Cantor. Crossover theory is poor analysis.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-...f6878.html
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(06-11-2014 09:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  The more liberal precincts where more democrats would have voted went for Cantor. Crossover theory is poor analysis.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-...f6878.html

Yep
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(06-11-2014 08:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem. The anti-Cantor vote was motivated. Amnesty cost Cantor the election. Had nothing to do with "Operation Chaos".

Don't think the 7th District includes Richmond, but rather the surrounding counties.
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(06-11-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 08:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 07:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does that happen? A lot of people went into the booth and had a change of heart. Statistically people said one thing and did another


or.................

don't discount this. D's pulled a Limbaugh and went "Operation Chaos".


btw.... side note
I was at a poker table last night at the local casino and it came across politico. I shouted it out and NO ONE AT THE TABLE knew who Cantor was. All the crap I give the righties on here at the very least you care about our country or you wouldn't be here. There is something to be said about that. Everyone of you would have known who Cantor was. Stunning the ignorance of the masses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...nent-brat/

It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem. The anti-Cantor vote was motivated. Amnesty cost Cantor the election. Had nothing to do with "Operation Chaos".

Don't think the 7th District includes Richmond, but rather the surrounding counties.

It does include a little of Richmond, but the whole area is considered Richmond, even outside the city limits. My wife is from there and when she moved down here, one of the first things she asked was "where are the Mexicans"?
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(06-11-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 08:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem.
Don't think the 7th District includes Richmond, but rather the surrounding counties.
It includes the Richmond suburbs -- people who live in VA-07 but frequently work/visit/whatever in City of Richmond (VA-03).
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(06-11-2014 10:08 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 08:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem.
Don't think the 7th District includes Richmond, but rather the surrounding counties.
It includes the Richmond suburbs -- people who live in VA-07 but frequently work/visit/whatever in City of Richmond (VA-03).

It includes me, lol. I was just looking at a district map and it looked like it didn't include the actualy city of Richmond. VA is weird like that in that cities are independed from counties.
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(06-11-2014 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 10:08 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 10:04 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 08:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is a very conservative district and Richmond has a pretty bad illegal immigration problem.
Don't think the 7th District includes Richmond, but rather the surrounding counties.
It includes the Richmond suburbs -- people who live in VA-07 but frequently work/visit/whatever in City of Richmond (VA-03).

It includes me, lol. I was just looking at a district map and it looked like it didn't include the actualy city of Richmond. VA is weird like that in that cities are independed from counties.

It includes some of the South side of the city like Stratford Hills and that neighborhood South of the Nickel Bridge. My in-laws live within th ecity limits and are represented by Cantor. According to the precinct counts, there were 3121 votes cast in the city of Richmond.
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