(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

Since the Hoyas most attended game last year (and they report tickets sold, not fannies in the seats) was under 14K for a nearly 20K facility I'm not going to sweat it in the least.

Cheers,
Neil

(06-17-2014 06:16 AM)omniorange Wrote:  Since the Hoyas most attended game last year (and they report tickets sold, not fannies in the seats) was under 14K for a nearly 20K facility I'm not going to sweat it in the least.

Finishing 7th out of 10 Big East schools will do that.

Something to consider when Mike Hopkins and the Orangemen join Mike Brey and the Irish in the ACC's second tier.

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

(06-17-2014 12:22 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:16 AM)omniorange Wrote:  Since the Hoyas most attended game last year (and they report tickets sold, not fannies in the seats) was under 14K for a nearly 20K facility I'm not going to sweat it in the least.

Finishing 7th out of 10 Big East schools will do that.

Something to consider when Mike Hopkins and the Orangemen join Mike Brey and the Irish in the ACC's second tier.

Mike Hopkins is bringing in Top 5 classes lately for Coach Boeheim...I think we'll be ok. He has been groomed coaching with some of the best in the game. He was an Assistant on the Olympic Team. Could he flop? Sure but odds are better he'll keep us in the Top 10.

(06-18-2014 12:07 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

the weekend before the Villanova-Syracuse game:
Dec 20 2013: High Point at Syracuse ---> 0 viewers.
Dec 21 2013: Georgetown at Kansas ---> 1.2 million viewers.

Also, the random OOC cupcake game you decided to mention, FIU vs Georgetown on Dec 28th, alone, outdrew the combined viewership of "zero" of SU's OOC cupcake games vs Colgate, Cornell, Binghamton, St Francis (NY) and High Point (none of those SU games were on TV).

(06-18-2014 02:23 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:07 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

the weekend before the Villanova-Syracuse game:
Dec 20 2013: High Point at Syracuse ---> 0 viewers.
Dec 21 2013: Georgetown at Kansas ---> 1.2 million viewers.

Also, the random OOC cupcake game you decided to mention, FIU vs Georgetown on Dec 28th, alone, outdrew the combined viewership of "zero" of SU's OOC cupcake games vs Colgate, Cornell, Binghamton, St Francis (NY) and High Point (none of those SU games were on TV).

You made my point thanks...who you play is important

Playing on ESPN or CBS is key.

Your Serve.

BTW, most of Cuse's Dog Games were either regional TV or ESPN3.

(06-18-2014 02:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:23 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:07 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 06:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Chris McManus‏@ChrisESPNCNY5 mins
Daryl Gross says no mandatory donations or 3 game packages if SU fans want to go to the Verizon Center. It was a sticking point in the deal.

Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

the weekend before the Villanova-Syracuse game:
Dec 20 2013: High Point at Syracuse ---> 0 viewers.
Dec 21 2013: Georgetown at Kansas ---> 1.2 million viewers.

Also, the random OOC cupcake game you decided to mention, FIU vs Georgetown on Dec 28th, alone, outdrew the combined viewership of "zero" of SU's OOC cupcake games vs Colgate, Cornell, Binghamton, St Francis (NY) and High Point (none of those SU games were on TV).

You made my point thanks...who you play is important

Playing on ESPN or CBS is key.

Your Serve.

BTW, most of Cuse's Dog Games were either regional TV or ESPN3.

Your point was that Georgetown needs Syracuse, which isn't the case. You and the rest of us discussed this on the HLoH site already.

(06-18-2014 03:27 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:23 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:07 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

the weekend before the Villanova-Syracuse game:
Dec 20 2013: High Point at Syracuse ---> 0 viewers.
Dec 21 2013: Georgetown at Kansas ---> 1.2 million viewers.

Also, the random OOC cupcake game you decided to mention, FIU vs Georgetown on Dec 28th, alone, outdrew the combined viewership of "zero" of SU's OOC cupcake games vs Colgate, Cornell, Binghamton, St Francis (NY) and High Point (none of those SU games were on TV).

You made my point thanks...who you play is important

Playing on ESPN or CBS is key.

Your Serve.

BTW, most of Cuse's Dog Games were either regional TV or ESPN3.

Your point was that Georgetown needs Syracuse, which isn't the case. You and the rest of us discussed this on the HLoH site already.

your "point" is the most BS argument imaginable.

(06-18-2014 03:27 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:23 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 12:07 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:57 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Not so fast, my friend...Sounds like Gross missed the memo.

Georgetown statement: "As is standard in agreements such as these, the visiting team will receive an allotment of tickets and the home team will control the sale and distribution of all remaining tickets. The visiting team and home team are free to sell/distribute their ticket allotments as they choose. Georgetown Athletics plans to continue its practice of providing priority access for tickets to those who buy multi-game plans or who support Georgetown Athletics."

You'll have a presale for your donors sure....but you won't sellout. Unless Georgetown lied to SU I'm comfortable with what I was told. You won't be able to play the usual BS games with fleecing the local Orange fans.

Remember you need us to sellout your rental house. Your fans at hoyasaxa.com were all high and mighty saying don't play Cuse but the reality is you need us more that you think. No one watched Georgetown last year...let that sink in. Case in point: Dec 28th Nova got to play us on CBS in front of 1.5M viewers while on the same day you were playing some nobody on FS1 in front of 71k viewers. Cuse was in two of the three most viewed regular season games and GTown played on TV in front of thousands of viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-season/2/

the weekend before the Villanova-Syracuse game:
Dec 20 2013: High Point at Syracuse ---> 0 viewers.
Dec 21 2013: Georgetown at Kansas ---> 1.2 million viewers.

Also, the random OOC cupcake game you decided to mention, FIU vs Georgetown on Dec 28th, alone, outdrew the combined viewership of "zero" of SU's OOC cupcake games vs Colgate, Cornell, Binghamton, St Francis (NY) and High Point (none of those SU games were on TV).

You made my point thanks...who you play is important

Playing on ESPN or CBS is key.

Your Serve.

BTW, most of Cuse's Dog Games were either regional TV or ESPN3.

Your point was that Georgetown needs Syracuse, which isn't the case. You and the rest of us discussed this on the HLoH site already.

They sure do...Cuse will bring eyeballz and fans. The FOX game will be one of the top (if not #1) FOX CBB games for the year GTown hosts, the Cuse hosted game will be on CBS or ESPN and become a Top 10 regular season watched game. Cuse brings 5-10k fans to Verizon

where Cuse will be huge for Georgetown is that it'll be a huge OOC home game, something that we don't always have by any stretch. This year our home OOC schedule was awful and fans stayed away.

We've discussed this 9,000 times...

Syracuse's games in the northeast corridor include:
(1) every other year at BC, and
(2) 1 game a year in Nov at MSG in the Jimmy V Classic or whatever.
So ---> 2 games tops.

SU seems to be looking (smart idea) to keep games in the NE corridor, so they've scheduled St John's and Villanova.
(3) so now, 3 games tops as SJU and VU rotate home games with SU.
(4) and now, the Georgetown game, so 3 or 4 games in the NE.
Seems like a school that is making a point of keeping a NE presence and keeping connected to Big East teams. I think it's a great idea for SU.

Georgetown, meanwhile, has Kansas coming into DC this year, plays Michigan State, and can basically pick from any elite school to schedule home and homes, UCLA, whatever. GU already plays 15-20 games up in the northeast each year, and their recruiting hasn't missed a beat. They don't "need" Syracuse, and they didn't agree to SU's rotation game idea at MSG... but it's a great rivalry game to continue so both teams made it work.

Do you really feel like rehashing this for a 9001st time?

don't feed this fucken troll

(06-18-2014 03:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  don't feed this fucken troll

Am I the troll, or is Texan Mark...?

BillyJack Cuse plays over 20-25 games a year in the northeast without GTown.

You ever heard of Quid pro Quo? The GTown/Cuse series comes to mind. Cuse gets a high profile game in DC for its fans and recruits. GTown gets up to 10k extra higher priced tickets sold and has the chance to be seen by millions of TV viewers on ESPN or CBS. Also, there are a solid number of GTown alumni in Upstate NY. I still say GTown needs this game more than Cuse.

how do we play 15-20 games in the northeast each year? Am I missing something? we play at St Johns, PC, Seton Hall, Nova. That's 4 games. The other 5 road conference games are Xavier, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, and Creighton. NONE are NE games and none will ever be NE games. So would love to know how we play 15-20. Are you counting our home games? Well, if you do that, you have to count Syracuse's home games as well. Just stupid.

(06-18-2014 04:42 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how do we play 15-20 games in the northeast each year? Am I missing something? we play at St Johns, PC, Seton Hall, Nova. That's 4 games. The other 5 road conference games are Xavier, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, and Creighton. NONE are NE games and none will ever be NE games. So would love to know how we play 15-20. Are you counting our home games? Well, if you do that, you have to count Syracuse's home games as well. Just stupid.

He's including the home games.

Cheers,
Neil

(06-18-2014 03:46 PM)billyjack Wrote:  We've discussed this 9,000 times...

Syracuse's games in the northeast corridor include:
(1) every other year at BC, and
(2) 1 game a year in Nov at MSG in the Jimmy V Classic or whatever.
So ---> 2 games tops.

SU seems to be looking (smart idea) to keep games in the NE corridor, so they've scheduled St John's and Villanova.
(3) so now, 3 games tops as SJU and VU rotate home games with SU.
(4) and now, the Georgetown game, so 3 or 4 games in the NE.
Seems like a school that is making a point of keeping a NE presence and keeping connected to Big East teams. I think it's a great idea for SU.

Georgetown, meanwhile, has Kansas coming into DC this year, plays Michigan State, and can basically pick from any elite school to schedule home and homes, UCLA, whatever. GU already plays 15-20 games up in the northeast each year, and their recruiting hasn't missed a beat. They don't "need" Syracuse, and they didn't agree to SU's rotation game idea at MSG... but it's a great rivalry game to continue so both teams made it work.

Do you really feel like rehashing this for a 9001st time?

When certain posters, including Cuse posters, wake up to the realization that playing in specific areas for recruiting purposes just isn't as big a deal as it may have been in the past then tangents like this will get less and less.

Unless, of course, someone thinks Kentucky or Duke has difficulty getting northeast recruits despite only playing in the northeast a couple of times a year?

Cheers,
Neil

Am i missing something? are people really trying to act that SU will struggle because they don't have enough games in the northeast?

sorry Gtown, provy, SJU, nova, & SHU fans, but SUs dominance in the region is by no means dependent on playing you guys. anyone saying so reminds me of the exact same argument b12 fans made about "only a b12 school can have success in texas."

(06-18-2014 03:46 PM)billyjack Wrote:  We've discussed this 9,000 times...

Syracuse's games in the northeast corridor include:
(1) every other year at BC, and
(2) 1 game a year in Nov at MSG in the Jimmy V Classic or whatever.
So ---> 2 games tops.

SU seems to be looking (smart idea) to keep games in the NE corridor, so they've scheduled St John's and Villanova.
(3) so now, 3 games tops as SJU and VU rotate home games with SU.
(4) and now, the Georgetown game, so 3 or 4 games in the NE.
Seems like a school that is making a point of keeping a NE presence and keeping connected to Big East teams. I think it's a great idea for SU.

Georgetown, meanwhile, has Kansas coming into DC this year, plays Michigan State, and can basically pick from any elite school to schedule home and homes, UCLA, whatever. GU already plays 15-20 games up in the northeast each year, and their recruiting hasn't missed a beat. They don't "need" Syracuse, and they didn't agree to SU's rotation game idea at MSG... but it's a great rivalry game to continue so both teams made it work.

Do you really feel like rehashing this for a 9001st time?

Georgetown doesn't need Syracuse to the extent that the Hoyas don't need fan interest or money, whereas Syracuse needs northeastern games to the extent that SU can't play any northeastern team it wants at any time it wants.