Based on my very recent experience, that's about three years of tuition and room and board at Rice (and good point about "after-tax")

(06-24-2014 06:51 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  Certainly not a game-changer in terms of after-tax dollars

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(06-24-2014 05:02 PM)ColOwl Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 09:29 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Didn't have a good feeling about Garrett staying with his Rice commitment at any point during the HS baseball season this year. Best of luck to him.

According to BA, he signed for $162,400. I'm not that much into the baseball market but that sounds awfully low to me compared to what the other later-round signees we've lost over the last several years have gotten -- e.g. Angelini, Thon -- or what AR supposedly turned down from the Braves back in 2008.

You have to wish him the best going forward, but this certainly is a head-scratching decision on his part.

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If you hope to have a major league career as a hitter as opposed to a pitcher, why would you play college baseball--so you can showcase your bunting ability?

(06-25-2014 12:49 PM)Benchwarmer Owl Wrote:  If you hope to have a major league career as a hitter as opposed to a pitcher, why would you play college baseball--so you can showcase your bunting ability?

I truly hope you're being sarcastic...and not serious.

I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

(06-25-2014 04:29 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

That's absurd. Look at the development while at Rice of guys such as Lehmann, Manuel, Holt, Rendon, Perrot, Aquino, Hoelscher and Ewing.

what a surprise that u
cant even entertain such an idea. Rendon batted ~ .380 his first year w ~ 85 RBI, not liked he needed a lot of development. As far as I know, only Brock of the others is in the bigs.
You , of all people, who has constantly harped on the poor "situational hitting", ought to be able to at least wonder if it could be used as negative recruiting against Rice.

(06-25-2014 04:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 04:29 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

That's absurd. Look at the development while at Rice of guys such as Lehmann, Manuel, Holt, Rendon, Perrot, Aquino, Hoelscher and Ewing.

(06-25-2014 11:39 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  what a surprise that u
cant even entertain such an idea. Rendon batted ~ .380 his first year w ~ 85 RBI, not liked he needed a lot of development. As far as I know, only Brock of the others is in the bigs.
You , of all people, who has constantly harped on the poor "situational hitting", ought to be able to at least wonder if it could be used as negative recruiting against Rice.

(06-25-2014 04:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 04:29 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

That's absurd. Look at the development while at Rice of guys such as Lehmann, Manuel, Holt, Rendon, Perrot, Aquino, Hoelscher and Ewing.

...then it could be used as a "negative" to 95% of the programs in D-I. This past year, despite our frustrations with the offense, it ranked well above average nationally, and I believe it did last year, as well.

Rice isnt competing against the other 95% for most of the players. Those schools would be happy w any and all of our roster. I want to get and keep the guys who put us over the top to get to Omaha!
I am putting out an idea on this, not staing it is a fact, as others are want to do.

(06-26-2014 07:59 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 11:39 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  what a surprise that u
cant even entertain such an idea. Rendon batted ~ .380 his first year w ~ 85 RBI, not liked he needed a lot of development. As far as I know, only Brock of the others is in the bigs.
You , of all people, who has constantly harped on the poor "situational hitting", ought to be able to at least wonder if it could be used as negative recruiting against Rice.

(06-25-2014 04:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 04:29 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

That's absurd. Look at the development while at Rice of guys such as Lehmann, Manuel, Holt, Rendon, Perrot, Aquino, Hoelscher and Ewing.

...then it could be used as a "negative" to 95% of the programs in D-I. This past year, despite our frustrations with the offense, it ranked well above average nationally, and I believe it did last year, as well.

I posted this in an earlier thread, but I had a conversation with one of Stone's coaches who was scouting my son's high school playoff game back in mid-May. At the time he said he didn't know what Stone would do, but he didn't think it would be about the money for Stone, but rather which opportunity Stone thought would help him better develop as a baseball player.

I guess he thinks the develop opportunity is better with the Rays. I wish him well and hope he made the right decision for him.

I think more important than which opportunity provided the best opportunity to develop baseball skills (because both would be good in that regard) is whether an individual player is mentally and emotionally mature enough for the rigors of minor league baseball. Minor league baseball and college seem like two vastly different environments for a person to mature in.

(06-26-2014 11:19 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  Rice isnt competing against the other 95% for most of the players. Those schools would be happy w any and all of our roster. I want to get and keep the guys who put us over the top to get to Omaha!
I am putting out an idea on this, not staing it is a fact, as others are want to do.

(06-26-2014 07:59 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 11:39 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  what a surprise that u
cant even entertain such an idea. Rendon batted ~ .380 his first year w ~ 85 RBI, not liked he needed a lot of development. As far as I know, only Brock of the others is in the bigs.
You , of all people, who has constantly harped on the poor "situational hitting", ought to be able to at least wonder if it could be used as negative recruiting against Rice.

(06-25-2014 04:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 04:29 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I would wonder if any position players look at our offensive woes( and they are offensive to me), and question their potential development at the plate. Would not hurt to be able to market Berkman as a part-time hitting coach.

That's absurd. Look at the development while at Rice of guys such as Lehmann, Manuel, Holt, Rendon, Perrot, Aquino, Hoelscher and Ewing.

...then it could be used as a "negative" to 95% of the programs in D-I. This past year, despite our frustrations with the offense, it ranked well above average nationally, and I believe it did last year, as well.

At least half the teams in Omaha had worse offenses than we did this year....and that's a fact.

(06-26-2014 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  I think more important than which opportunity provided the best opportunity to develop baseball skills (because both would be good in that regard) is whether an individual player is mentally and emotionally mature enough for the rigors of minor league baseball. Minor league baseball and college seem like two vastly different environments for a person to mature in.

I agree and was thinking the same thing as the coach was talking with me. As a parent, I much rather have my 18 yr old "developing" with other 18-20 yr olds that have similar commitments to making grades, staying in school, etc., than a bunch of 18 - 21+ yr olds with too much time on their hands between games.

An interesting article for Rice baseball signees who passed on the MLB draft -- and for those who didn't as well.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014...age-income

Learning how to ride the bus...

Didn't know where to put this, but Tallion was at one time a Rice signee.

Sports specialization -- TJ surgery

(06-29-2014 08:38 PM)grol Wrote:  Didn't know where to put this, but Tallion was at one time a Rice signee.

Sports specialization -- TJ surgery

How long until the first article blaming this on the OG? He's so abusive with pitchers even commits who don't sign won't escape unscathed.

There are rumors are out there that the Astros' top draft pick has failed his physical because of the delays in his signing.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/201...24048101=0

Hopefully they are just speculation and not accurate. But if they are, and relate to an arm injury, seem noteworthy because there were so many comments about how carefully he was handled during high school.

(07-02-2014 12:51 PM)At Ease Wrote:  There are rumors are out there that the Astros' top draft pick has failed his physical because of the delays in his signing.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/201...24048101=0

Hopefully they are just speculation and not accurate. But if they are, and relate to an arm injury, seem noteworthy because there were so many comments about how carefully he was handled during high school.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-...-by-astros

Seems to be an elbow issue. This kid was protected to the max and yet, here we are.

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Nick J. Faleris ‏@NickJFaleris
The only potential winner in the Aiken/Astros/Nix drama? @UCLABaseball, who could have two immediate impact talents fall in their lap.

Baseball America article

If the Astros don't sign these guys (the first pick in the draft and a 5th round pick), they're both heading to UCLA. That would be a boon for a college team, wouldn't it?