(06-02-2014 09:50 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 09:47 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 09:20 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  this is getting gay

lol yeah...I busted out some old school lingo there hahaha

This is getting retar...ah nvm...I would feel bad for making that comparison....the mentally challenged are most likely better people than the P5 bigwigs, and could probably (easily) set up a better and more fair college football system.

(06-02-2014 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I don't really get how the P5 could agree on their own set of transfer rules. If the rest of D1 didn't agree to them what would stop them from enforcing the same rules they always have on kids that sign with their schools?

That is why they want div 4.

(06-02-2014 02:46 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 02:36 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 02:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  No I mean I get the autonomy stuff, but unless this rule would apply only to transfers to and from P5 schools I can't see how they could make it free reign for a player to leave a G5 school for a P5 if the G5/other D1 schools have a different set of transfer rules.

That's the point. Rules are not about the entity you left: it's about the one you are joining. For example the rules to join the NBA draft are about what rules the NBA has, not what rules the NCAA has. Thus if a player is leaving a G5 and joining a P5 school, only the rules of the school they are joining matters. It is why a player can now transfer from FBS to FCS without sitting out. FCS doesn't force players from a higher division to sit out.

So we create a rule that we can take p5 transfers during the season. 2nd string gets pissed he comes to ucf due to injuries on our side.

Agree. Honestly, how many G5 players transfer to a P5 school? If the P5 does this, then the G5 should institute a similar rule - but only for P5 to G5 transfers - no sitting out a year if you come from OSU, for example - but you have to sit a year if you go from UC to UCF.

All this rule will accomplish is screwing up any stability among the P5 schools with players going to the highest bidder. I can't see how this will improve the game for the P5 - autonomy will ultimately lead to their downfall.

(06-03-2014 08:42 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 02:46 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 02:36 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 02:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  No I mean I get the autonomy stuff, but unless this rule would apply only to transfers to and from P5 schools I can't see how they could make it free reign for a player to leave a G5 school for a P5 if the G5/other D1 schools have a different set of transfer rules.

That's the point. Rules are not about the entity you left: it's about the one you are joining. For example the rules to join the NBA draft are about what rules the NBA has, not what rules the NCAA has. Thus if a player is leaving a G5 and joining a P5 school, only the rules of the school they are joining matters. It is why a player can now transfer from FBS to FCS without sitting out. FCS doesn't force players from a higher division to sit out.

So we create a rule that we can take p5 transfers during the season. 2nd string gets pissed he comes to ucf due to injuries on our side.

Agree. Honestly, how many G5 players transfer to a P5 school? If the P5 does this, then the G5 should institute a similar rule - but only for P5 to G5 transfers - no sitting out a year if you come from OSU, for example - but you have to sit a year if you go from UC to UCF.

All this rule will accomplish is screwing up any stability among the P5 schools with players going to the highest bidder. I can't see how this will improve the game for the P5 - autonomy will ultimately lead to their downfall.

the p5 has autonomy, the g5 doesn't ...they can make rules for themselves .we need the approval of all remaining 300+ d1 schools to make any rules

Once the autonomy domino falls, there's nothing to stop the G5 from seeking autonomy themselves - and the NCAA wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they tried to stop it.

(06-03-2014 09:58 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Once the autonomy domino falls, there's nothing to stop the G5 from seeking autonomy themselves - and the NCAA wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they tried to stop it.

Once it falls, college sports is done as far as I'm concerned. I do not care to see the school that I root for develop a player just to see him now move on to a P5 school for his last year or two (without any kind of recourse for doing it). That is the same reason I can't get into minor league baseball.

(06-03-2014 10:10 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 09:58 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Once the autonomy domino falls, there's nothing to stop the G5 from seeking autonomy themselves - and the NCAA wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they tried to stop it.

Once it falls, college sports is done as far as I'm concerned. I do not care to see the school that I root for develop a player just to see him now move on to a P5 school for his last year or two (without any kind of recourse for doing it). That is the same reason I can't get into minor league baseball.

the transfer rule isn't a certainty the pac12 want to change it but the big 10 has shown signs they dont

and the pac12 hasnt been specific about the changes other than to "loosen them"

again...this is getting gay

(06-03-2014 07:45 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  again...this is getting gay

A video that explains it all.