(05-30-2014 12:52 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  This isn't a question of who 'deserves' what. It is about control.

And right now, who has control? The schools and clubs with the most money. Because you cannot convince the media as the Mid-American Conference to give you better publicity with a $10 million dollar check when the Big Ten can ask the same thing and multiply that by x1000 (to $10 billion dollars).

Money = power.

The SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, and PAC 12 have all the money. They dictate the future. And it is going to destroy what integrity remains in collegiate athletics.

Absolutely true, but Wal-Mart is also the great power and yet they are having issues with same-store sales. People are going to Walgreens because they don't have to walk across a 5-mile parking lot and wait in a huge line while someone checks out two baskets full of groceries in the only one of 30 registers that is open. People are going to Kroger because the peaches taste like peaches. Wal-Mart had to try to react with neighborhood stores.

Right now the P5 have the power, and they also control the market. No rule is passed without their consent. The whole structure of the NCAA is designed to maintain the status quo and pay off the little guys to keep quiet.

If there is a split then that is out the window and the G5 will have to learn how to compete against the behemoth like Walgreen's has learned to compete with Wal-Mart.

I don't know why the P5 would want to cut the G5 lose, but that's their decision.

(05-30-2014 11:59 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:38 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:20 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  The current climate is telling the P5 to split off completely. It's profitable to do so right now as well. Unfortunately, doing so will come at an ugly cost - and is that something they are willing to bear?

A split off G5 wouldn't sit still. With totally independent governance they would learn pretty quickly how to carve out a niche and make money.

The P5 would still be Wal-Mart, but a G5 Walgreen's can still siphon off market share from the behemoth and be a pain forcing them to react.

The G5 is essentially by and large not attractive to college football fans or viewers or casual sports fans. Its not something that has changed or will change.
The big boys are profiting of course, but they also want to maintain the success of college football into the future. G5 schools will still play P5 schools as away guarantee games and get on tv with those games--unless a break away is pushed. If the G5 has to create a league of their own, the revenues and exposure will be significantly less. Most g5 schools understand that probably -and aren't going to ruin what they do have (they can still make a CFP Bowl and other bowls).

Thinking the status quo is permanent is usually a poor line of thinking.

In my lifetime, Florida State has gone from joke to national champs, Miami has gone from joke to national champs, Utah has gone from a middling mid-tier team to a power conference, TCU has gone from a top league to the wilderness to a top league. VaTech has gone from waiting nearly a quarter century for their next bowl game and twenty years between being ranked to national prominence.

Boise has gone from a good FCS, to commanding TV audiences in excess of a million viewers regularly. Louisville from a program that hasn't been ranked in nearly two decades to membership in a major conference.

The idea that it has never changed ignores reality and the idea it will never change has no basis in fact.

(05-30-2014 01:04 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 12:52 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  This isn't a question of who 'deserves' what. It is about control.

And right now, who has control? The schools and clubs with the most money. Because you cannot convince the media as the Mid-American Conference to give you better publicity with a $10 million dollar check when the Big Ten can ask the same thing and multiply that by x1000 (to $10 billion dollars).

Money = power.

The SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, and PAC 12 have all the money. They dictate the future. And it is going to destroy what integrity remains in collegiate athletics.

Absolutely true, but Wal-Mart is also the great power and yet they are having issues with same-store sales. People are going to Walgreens because they don't have to walk across a 5-mile parking lot and wait in a huge line while someone checks out two baskets full of groceries in the only one of 30 registers that is open. People are going to Kroger because the peaches taste like peaches. Wal-Mart had to try to react with neighborhood stores.

Right now the P5 have the power, and they also control the market. No rule is passed without their consent. The whole structure of the NCAA is designed to maintain the status quo and pay off the little guys to keep quiet.

If there is a split then that is out the window and the G5 will have to learn how to compete against the behemoth like Walgreen's has learned to compete with Wal-Mart.

I don't know why the P5 would want to cut the G5 lose, but that's their decision.

And Sears was once the unconquerable leader of retail sales. IBM was always going to be dominant in computers, then it was Microsoft that was invincible.

GM would forever make more cars per year than anyone else.

In 1935 some one was sitting at a coffee shop declaring that forever and always Baseball, boxing, and horse racing would always be the three most popular sports in the US.

But by some mystic power intercollegiate athletics are allegedly immune from the same forces as the rest of the economy.

The only benefit the P5 have over the G5 in a long-term view is that the P5 is more willing to cooperate with one another, the G5 leadership so far isn't showing any Sam Walton, Bill Gates innovation traits and try to run their programs like the P5.