I wonder how many home games of the mid majors will be on TV, On the first weekend (8/28- 9/01), it looks like only Washington at Hawaii and Wake at ULM will be televised.

There's a few more.

BYU-UConn (ESPN) and UTSA-Houston (ESPNU) on the first Friday night.

Penn State-UCF (ESPN2), early Saturday morning from Ireland.

Very first game of the season on ESPNU -- Abilene Christian-Georgia State, on Wednesday night.

Probably at least one or two more that haven't been announced yet.

(05-24-2014 01:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  There's a few more.

BYU-UConn (ESPN) and UTSA-Houston (ESPNU) on the first Friday night.

Penn State-UCF (ESPN2), early Saturday morning from Ireland.

Very first game of the season on ESPNU -- Abilene Christian-Georgia State, on Wednesday night.

Probably at least one or two more that haven't been announced yet.

Yup. There will be a ton of mid-major games televised. Seems to be more every year. I don't think that's a huge issue.

Toledo vs Cincinnati is on ESPNU.

3 of UC's conference games are already scheduled on ESPN/ESPN2. I wouldn't be surprised if our games against UConn and Houston also get picked up.

We also have 2 OOC games that will almost certainly be picked up by TV (vs Ohio State and Miami (FL))

If we do as well as predicted, it would shock me if fewer than 10 of our games are televised. The only ones that won't are Miami (OH) in the 2nd week and Memphis in the 4th week.

Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

I'm unhappy, but I can't object because it is the truth. We've been demoted, that's how it is.

Except there is no mid-anything.

It's lazy grouping by a basketball coach 40 years ago.

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

Sorry, G5 if you prefer. Mid Major is the term being used on the XM/Sirius College Sports Station which broadcasts nationally.

(05-25-2014 10:31 AM)westwolf Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

Sorry, G5 if you prefer. Mid Major is the term being used on the XM/Sirius College Sports Station which broadcasts nationally.

G5 is a respectable term, IMO.

(05-25-2014 11:08 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 10:31 AM)westwolf Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

Sorry, G5 if you prefer. Mid Major is the term being used on the XM/Sirius College Sports Station which broadcasts nationally.

G5 is a respectable term, IMO.

For now maybe though it is likely to change. Mid major used to be a respectable term too.

It is the same phenomena where terms like retard, imbecile, stupid, etc all used to be actual official terms but are now not considered kosher. Whichever term comes into use will become tainted due to what it is describing.

The term to describe the current G5 will likely go the same way no matter what you use to describe it.

(05-25-2014 05:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

I'm unhappy, but I can't object because it is the truth. We've been demoted, that's how it is.

LMAO. LSU is Mid-Major?

Having the Fiesta Bowl Champion (defeating the Big 12 Champion) and the Men's Basketball National Champion in the same year is anything but "Mid Major"..

Many P5's WISH they had that year.

Some of you really need to get educated on the origin of that term. It was never used with "G5" in mind.

(05-24-2014 01:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  There's a few more.

Penn State-UCF (ESPN2), early Saturday morning from Ireland.

Anyone that equates the Fiesta Bowl Champs versus Penn State as a Mid-Major game obviously doesn't follow the game very closely.

(05-25-2014 06:37 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 01:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  There's a few more.

Penn State-UCF (ESPN2), early Saturday morning from Ireland.

Anyone that equates the Fiesta Bowl Champs versus Penn State as a Mid-Major game obviously doesn't follow the game very closely.

This may be the rare occassion where BEH has a point. Two or three years ago, when Boise STate was in kickoff games vs VT and Georgia, did anyone call those "mid-major games"? I didn't.

Mid Major is not a bad term at all. It is something that casual fans understand.
We're not Alabama, but we're not DIII either.
Most teams in CUSA, SBC, MAC should embrace the term.
If you're Cinn, Conn, USF, UCF, or Boise, you are a school with major cred stuck with the mid-major label through conference association. You've either been in a BCS conference for multiple years, or won a BCS bowl game. But you are all currently in mid major conferences.
I have no problem with the term as a layman's term meaning G5 (plus BYU).
The bar has been raised once again...

(05-26-2014 07:55 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Mid Major is not a bad term at all. It is something that casual fans understand.
We're not Alabama, but we're not DIII either.
Most teams in CUSA, SBC, MAC should embrace the term.
If you're Cinn, Conn, USF, UCF, or Boise, you are a school with major cred stuck with the mid-major label through conference association. You've either been in a BCS conference for multiple years, or won a BCS bowl game. But you are all currently in mid major conferences.
I have no problem with the term as a layman's term meaning G5 (plus BYU).
The bar has been raised once again...

This. I never heard anyone call Memphis or Temple basketball mid-major, but CUSA 2.0 was usually regarded as mid-major, and the A-10 always considered mid-major.

4 of the most overrated words that nobody has a clue of what they're talking about when they use these words. . . (1) mid-majors. (2) blue bloods. (3) P5. (4) G5

(05-26-2014 11:24 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  4 of the most overrated words that nobody has a clue of what they're talking about when they use these words. . . (1) mid-majors. (2) blue bloods. (3) P5. (4) G5

Explain it to them then....I'm dying to hear your version of it.

(05-26-2014 08:35 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 07:55 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Mid Major is not a bad term at all. It is something that casual fans understand.
We're not Alabama, but we're not DIII either.
Most teams in CUSA, SBC, MAC should embrace the term.
If you're Cinn, Conn, USF, UCF, or Boise, you are a school with major cred stuck with the mid-major label through conference association. You've either been in a BCS conference for multiple years, or won a BCS bowl game. But you are all currently in mid major conferences.
I have no problem with the term as a layman's term meaning G5 (plus BYU).
The bar has been raised once again...

This. I never heard anyone call Memphis or Temple basketball mid-major, but CUSA 2.0 was usually regarded as mid-major, and the A-10 always considered mid-major.

The A-10 is not mid-major. The 11 bids over 2 years overrule that. I've told people that I'd rather see my school drop athletics altogether before embracing the mantle of "mid-major".

The term is a meaningless, insulting joke. I'd rather my program be called dirty or NAIA than "mid-major". C-USA when SLU was in it was never called mid-major either.

(05-25-2014 06:20 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 11:08 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 10:31 AM)westwolf Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 02:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Am I supposed to be offended or happy he called schools that were previously BCS "mid major".

Sorry, G5 if you prefer. Mid Major is the term being used on the XM/Sirius College Sports Station which broadcasts nationally.

G5 is a respectable term, IMO.

For now maybe though it is likely to change. Mid major used to be a respectable term too.

It is the same phenomena where terms like retard, imbecile, stupid, etc all used to be actual official terms but are now not considered kosher. Whichever term comes into use will become tainted due to what it is describing.

The term to describe the current G5 will likely go the same way no matter what you use to describe it.

Did it? I've always seen it as a vile insult.

(05-27-2014 10:34 AM)LouPower Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 08:35 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 07:55 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Mid Major is not a bad term at all. It is something that casual fans understand.
We're not Alabama, but we're not DIII either.
Most teams in CUSA, SBC, MAC should embrace the term.
If you're Cinn, Conn, USF, UCF, or Boise, you are a school with major cred stuck with the mid-major label through conference association. You've either been in a BCS conference for multiple years, or won a BCS bowl game. But you are all currently in mid major conferences.
I have no problem with the term as a layman's term meaning G5 (plus BYU).
The bar has been raised once again...

This. I never heard anyone call Memphis or Temple basketball mid-major, but CUSA 2.0 was usually regarded as mid-major, and the A-10 always considered mid-major.

The A-10 is not mid-major. The 11 bids over 2 years overrule that. I've told people that I'd rather see my school drop athletics altogether before embracing the mantle of "mid-major".

The term is a meaningless, insulting joke. I'd rather my program be called dirty or NAIA than "mid-major". C-USA when SLU was in it was never called mid-major either.

The A-10 is viewed as a mid major by the public at large despite all the bids these past few seasons. You can go ahead and thank ESPN and the likes for that. There is a chasm between how ESPN (and by default the general public) views the ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, SEC and Pac-12 and everyone else. It doesn't matter how terrible a certain school is at football or men's basketball, if they're in a P5 conference, they're a major team. Anyone outside of the P5 (even the A-10) is in a lesser conference and is dismissed as "good for their level of play." You can argue against it all you want, but that is the perception out there and perception may as well be fact unfortunately.