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(05-20-2014 04:47 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:59 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:32 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 11:10 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 10:27 AM)Monarchy Anarchy Wrote:  It serves a few purposes: keeping travel costs relatively low, keeping up with old rivalries, playing teams our fans are interested in watching & able to travel to see, and scheduling teams that help/don't hurt our RPI. With most conference games requiring flights and extensive travel, I have no problem balancing the non-con schedule with some former conference mates. It would be nice, however, to see a Big East or ACC team at home each year, but I understand arranging home/home with P6 are usually harder to come by.

I think, W&M, GMU, and VCU (along with non CAA rival UR), are enough to keep rivalries going and travel down.
The rest were never our real rivals, and except for JMU are not that close anyway.

I would rather play NSU and Hampton, which would at least generate local interest, than RPI killer JMU.

If you want local interest then go with JMU, but they need to get rid of Georgia State, and as much as I hate to say it UNCW. Keep ECU on the schedule since they are 2.5 hours away and in a better conference now.

Agreed on ECU.

JMU hoops is an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure how JMU hoops generates more local interest than Hampton or NSU, especially now that it is ooc.
Additionally JMU's RPI* is 239, whereas Hampton and NSU are 202 and 229 respectively. (Realtime RPI)

I don't understand including UNCW at all. That is another train wreck of a program with a 282 RPI, AND it is not particularly travel friendly.

FYI, ODU hardly moves the needle here in Richmond now. We are not considered a VCU peer anymore. VCU has moved on. ODU needs to do the same.

*I understand that RPI numbers are meaningless this time of year, but still relativistically useful for comparison.

You don't see how JMU generates more local interest than Hampton or NSU? JMU brings more fans to the Ted when we play them than any team in the region, other than maybe VCU. Hampton brings about 500 fans, and NSU does better but it isn't close to JMU.

I also disagree that Georgia State that they are a good series, but I could see how you could say that about last year. Any team that averages less than 2000 fans a game and generates zero media interest isn't great for our resume. If we have to have a bad resume game I would rather sell 8500 tickets but that might just be me.

You guys are a good scrimmage for us though.

(05-21-2014 09:32 AM)panama Wrote:  You guys are a good scrimmage for us though.

More wins:

Ga State basketball in a week

or

Ga State football last year

(05-20-2014 04:47 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:59 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:32 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 11:10 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 10:27 AM)Monarchy Anarchy Wrote:  It serves a few purposes: keeping travel costs relatively low, keeping up with old rivalries, playing teams our fans are interested in watching & able to travel to see, and scheduling teams that help/don't hurt our RPI. With most conference games requiring flights and extensive travel, I have no problem balancing the non-con schedule with some former conference mates. It would be nice, however, to see a Big East or ACC team at home each year, but I understand arranging home/home with P6 are usually harder to come by.

I think, W&M, GMU, and VCU (along with non CAA rival UR), are enough to keep rivalries going and travel down.
The rest were never our real rivals, and except for JMU are not that close anyway.

I would rather play NSU and Hampton, which would at least generate local interest, than RPI killer JMU.

If you want local interest then go with JMU, but they need to get rid of Georgia State, and as much as I hate to say it UNCW. Keep ECU on the schedule since they are 2.5 hours away and in a better conference now.

Agreed on ECU.

JMU hoops is an unmitigated disaster. I am not sure how JMU hoops generates more local interest than Hampton or NSU, especially now that it is ooc.
Additionally JMU's RPI* is 239, whereas Hampton and NSU are 202 and 229 respectively. (Realtime RPI)

I don't understand including UNCW at all. That is another train wreck of a program with a 282 RPI, AND it is not particularly travel friendly.

FYI, ODU hardly moves the needle here in Richmond now. We are not considered a VCU peer anymore. VCU has moved on. ODU needs to do the same.

*I understand that RPI numbers are meaningless this time of year, but still relativistically useful for comparison.

You don't see how JMU generates more local interest than Hampton or NSU? JMU brings more fans to the Ted when we play them than any team in the region, other than maybe VCU. Hampton brings about 500 fans, and NSU does better but it isn't close to JMU.

I also disagree that Georgia State that they are a good series, but I could see how you could say that about last year. Any team that averages less than 2000 fans a game and generates zero media interest isn't great for our resume. If we have to have a bad resume game I would rather sell 8500 tickets but that might just be me.

We are no longer in the same conference, so all of the rivalry stuff is "out the window"; just as we are mostly irrelevant to VCU in Richmond now.
The JMU RPI is so low that there is little or no advantage to playing them and winning, and extremely costly if we lose

How many fans JMU may or may not bring is not "local interest".
In point of fact, the JMU home game in 2012/13 at 6094, was one of the most poorly attended home games of the year.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...n-monarchs

So we see that once we left the CAA, JMU became locally irrelevant.

Does any one know if they made 18 conference basketball games official at the CUSA meetings?

Bottom line is that we have a nice schedule but all the games of interest are at home or neutral. Need to get some quality road games... even if guarantee... just in case we build a bubble resume.

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