The wheels are officially in motion..official statement from the NBA:

(05-19-2014 01:44 PM)George CantStandYa Wrote:  Define winning. He ultimately will not prevail, but he can stall the hell out of this, that is the endgame. He is an old man with cancer. Again, he has no possible shot at winning this suit, but if he plays out the clock, his heirs are in a totally different position. People remain confused about the property rights aspect and are again confusing the NBA with the government. (the government can not forbid the dixie chicks from being played on the radio, but Clear Channel can). But if he delays it ten years, and dies in that time, well the whole game has changed at that point. Again, Donald Sterling has zero shot at winning this, but the Sterling Family in a post Donald world, does. It is still likely to be a losing effort, because if the League really wants to go after the Clips, they have a lot of cards to play.

His lawyers also get to go through the discovery process and dig up dirt on the league and other owners. Should be interesting to see how the owners respond to that threat.

(05-16-2014 09:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  Knew this would happen. Sterling may win too.

this private investigator, former FBI guy that Cuban hired has decades of stuff on Sterling. But Sterling probably has decades of stuff on the NBA, so let's see who fires the first shot.

(05-22-2014 02:05 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  Knew this would happen. Sterling may win too.

this private investigator, former FBI guy that Cuban hired has decades of stuff on Sterling. But Sterling probably has decades of stuff on the NBA, so let's see who fires the first shot.

Yeah, it'll be interesting.

(05-19-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-19-2014 01:38 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 05:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 05:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 04:47 PM)RationalRebel Wrote:  Saying Sterling may win and has many advantages in his corner is not akin to defending him. It's just having a very cursory understanding of the law.

To some you cannot have an open mind about something like this and look at it in a rational and factual way unless you agree with Sterling's beliefs. You must look at things through their eyes or else.

lol, again you guys are acting like someone is taking away his civil rights...he voluntarily purchased an NBA team...per the NBA rules, that Sterling signed, he can be made to sell his team by a vote from the other NBA owners.

With everything that has gone on in the NBA image wise. They will have a hard time claiming he hurt the image of the NBA while having a private conversation in his own home on the home.

ANYONE can defend the rights of those who believe as you do. It takes integrity to defend the rights of those which whom you disagree.

This whole incident is because some people have gotten their panties in a wad because he said things they do not like. Have you gotten any idea how many visionaries through out history would have been silenced if we only allowed views that the majority agreed with? The guy is a complete jerk and idiot but he has the right to be a complete jerk and idiot without retaliation from the powers that be.

All they have to do is vote and thats that...there is no right to own an NBA team...he signed off on those NBA rules.

I wouldn't mess with Adam Silver when it comes to sports law...

There may not be a right to BUY a team. But we are not talking about him buying a team. We are talking about him already owning private property and having ti taken away from him,. Not even sure if this is justified under Kelo?

Lots of billionaires lining up as of today's news.

Can the Clippers really be worth $2 billion?

If the Cowboys are worth $1 billion?

(05-29-2014 10:06 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Lots of billionaires lining up as of today's news.

Can the Clippers really be worth $2 billion?

If the Cowboys are worth $1 billion?

Usually sports teams aren't sold by virtual auction with so many rich people trying to buy it.

It probably gets sold for $1.2 billion.

If Jerry Jones sold the Cowboys and rights to ATT stadium, he gets $2.5 billion or more. The Forbes value is usually much lower than the sale price.

BTW... The Clippers local TV deal comes up after season after next. The Lakers get $200 million a year in their TV deal. So that's why the Clippers are worth so much money.

(05-19-2014 09:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  I don't think Donald Sterling has said it was illegally recorded.

The word was Sterling had V. Stigano record their conversations because of his problems with his memory.

It was released, which obviously Sterling wasn't alright with.

He has now.

Quote:Sterling believes the punishment he received for making racist comments is “draconian” and contends that the conversation in which the comments were made was private and illegally recorded.

Sterling to fight to the bloody end

(05-29-2014 10:58 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(05-19-2014 09:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  I don't think Donald Sterling has said it was illegally recorded.

The word was Sterling had V. Stigano record their conversations because of his problems with his memory.

It was released, which obviously Sterling wasn't alright with.

He has now.

Quote:Sterling believes the punishment he received for making racist comments is “draconian” and contends that the conversation in which the comments were made was private and illegally recorded.

Sterling to fight to the bloody end

Sterling is bipolar, in one news report selling the team in the next fighting the NBA.

It just shows Sterling wants to be the center of attention and that is why he bought the Clippers in the first place. He wants everyone to love Donald Sterling and shower him with attention.

(05-24-2014 04:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-19-2014 01:38 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 05:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 05:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  To some you cannot have an open mind about something like this and look at it in a rational and factual way unless you agree with Sterling's beliefs. You must look at things through their eyes or else.

lol, again you guys are acting like someone is taking away his civil rights...he voluntarily purchased an NBA team...per the NBA rules, that Sterling signed, he can be made to sell his team by a vote from the other NBA owners.

With everything that has gone on in the NBA image wise. They will have a hard time claiming he hurt the image of the NBA while having a private conversation in his own home on the home.

ANYONE can defend the rights of those who believe as you do. It takes integrity to defend the rights of those which whom you disagree.

This whole incident is because some people have gotten their panties in a wad because he said things they do not like. Have you gotten any idea how many visionaries through out history would have been silenced if we only allowed views that the majority agreed with? The guy is a complete jerk and idiot but he has the right to be a complete jerk and idiot without retaliation from the powers that be.

All they have to do is vote and thats that...there is no right to own an NBA team...he signed off on those NBA rules.

I wouldn't mess with Adam Silver when it comes to sports law...

There may not be a right to BUY a team. But we are not talking about him buying a team. We are talking about him already owning private property and having ti taken away from him,. Not even sure if this is justified under Kelo?

I've been away, so I haven't followed much on the net lately, but how is Kelo relevant?

(05-19-2014 10:11 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  First, if he treated his employees and team like crap, they wouldn't be winning or have the ability to sign free agents.

Second, he has said more than once that he had no idea that conversation was being recorded, nor is what was released one single recording.

While I don't support him or his statements, when a company can fine you, force you to sell YOUR business and ban you for life from visiting YOUR property for something that was said in your home.... this country is heading towards a very dangerous cliff.

Amazing how the people that will be the first to jump up and down about what happens in your home is your rights and should be left alone are lining up to lynch him.

I think that argument could support the argument that the country went over the cliff like Thelma and Louise in 1786.

(05-29-2014 10:18 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 10:06 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Lots of billionaires lining up as of today's news.

Can the Clippers really be worth $2 billion?

If the Cowboys are worth $1 billion?

Usually sports teams aren't sold by virtual auction with so many rich people trying to buy it.

It probably gets sold for $1.2 billion.

If Jerry Jones sold the Cowboys and rights to ATT stadium, he gets $2.5 billion or more. The Forbes value is usually much lower than the sale price.

BTW... The Clippers local TV deal comes up after season after next. The Lakers get $200 million a year in their TV deal. So that's why the Clippers are worth so much money.

But the Lakers have been a dominant franchise for 50+ years.

The Clippers are a Blake Griffith and Chris Paul away from nothing, again...

(05-29-2014 01:35 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 10:18 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 10:06 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Lots of billionaires lining up as of today's news.

Can the Clippers really be worth $2 billion?

If the Cowboys are worth $1 billion?

Usually sports teams aren't sold by virtual auction with so many rich people trying to buy it.

It probably gets sold for $1.2 billion.

If Jerry Jones sold the Cowboys and rights to ATT stadium, he gets $2.5 billion or more. The Forbes value is usually much lower than the sale price.

BTW... The Clippers local TV deal comes up after season after next. The Lakers get $200 million a year in their TV deal. So that's why the Clippers are worth so much money.

But the Lakers have been a dominant franchise for 50+ years.

The Clippers are a Blake Griffith and Chris Paul away from nothing, again...

You are right about the prestige of the Lakers.

But what matters more is that you have two or three networks in LA that will be dying for popular sports content. Fox will want the NBA and Time Warner will want to keep NBA games off of Fox Sports since basketball is so big in Southern Cal.

You have to think the rights cover not only LA, but San Diego, Las Vegas, and halfway up California.

Right now they make less that $20 million a year.

The next TV deal will pay them at least $50 million.

Current deals:

Lakers 20 years, $4 billion... $122 million last year
Rockets - $45 million
Knicks - $37 million (owns the network so money might be much higher than official figure)
Celtics - $36 million
Pistons - $35 Million
Warriors - $28 million
Cavs - $27 million (signed when LBJ was on team)
Bulls - $25 million
Nets - $20 million
Heat - $20 million

You can be sure the Clippers are going to get a mega deal. Especially with a good owner.

Two Bill

(05-29-2014 08:24 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Two Bill

What happened to the fighting part? Everything happened so fast.

I'd take my $2B, hold a press conf with one of those big Publishers Clearinghouse style checks as the background, tell the NBA exec's where they could shove their league, buy an island and live in luxury and obscurity forever.

Steve Ballmer's offer of $2,000,000,000 is crazy but he's got it to spend. Like to know how he came up with that offer. The ROI is going to be forever.
Good luck to Steve with the Clippers if the deal goes thru.

Now Sterling's estranged wife can now have her estranged husband go tell the NBA and everyone else to go F'off....... and walk with at least $1,000,000,000 in her pocket........ if she wants too....get the publicity...........

I would still love to know the REAL story. Whoever came up with this is a genius.

Looks like the Sterlings "fought" all the way to the bank. A net of roughly $1.34 billion split in half for a smooth $670m each. I'd say that's a fair return on investment since he paid just over $11m for them 30 years ago.

(05-30-2014 09:37 AM)U of M/ND fan Wrote:  Steve Ballmer's offer of $2,000,000,000 is crazy but he's got it to spend. Like to know how he came up with that offer. The ROI is going to be forever.
Good luck to Steve with the Clippers if the deal goes thru.

Now Sterling's estranged wife can now have her estranged husband go tell the NBA and everyone else to go F'off....... and walk with at least $1,000,000,000 in her pocket........ if she wants too....get the publicity...........

I would still love to know the REAL story. Whoever came up with this is a genius.

The lakers signed a TV deal in the last two years for $4 billion over 20 years. The NBA national contract is expected to double. And NBA franchise will probably appreciate in value over the next twenty years.

So $2 billion for the Clippers will have a good return if it has savvy stewardship.

BTW, the NBA wants Sterling to get as much as he can. They don't care if he laughs all the way to the bank. They get rid of Sterling, which they've wanted to do for decades and it makes every one else's team worth more. If the Clips are worth $3 billion, the Lakers, Knicks, and Bulls have to be worth $3 billion!

(05-30-2014 09:57 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:37 AM)U of M/ND fan Wrote:  Steve Ballmer's offer of $2,000,000,000 is crazy but he's got it to spend. Like to know how he came up with that offer. The ROI is going to be forever.
Good luck to Steve with the Clippers if the deal goes thru.

Now Sterling's estranged wife can now have her estranged husband go tell the NBA and everyone else to go F'off....... and walk with at least $1,000,000,000 in her pocket........ if she wants too....get the publicity...........

I would still love to know the REAL story. Whoever came up with this is a genius.

The lakers signed a TV deal in the last two years for $4 billion over 20 years. The NBA national contract is expected to double. And NBA franchise will probably appreciate in value over the next twenty years.

So $2 billion for the Clippers will have a good return if it has savvy stewardship.

BTW, the NBA wants Sterling to get as much as he can. They don't care if he laughs all the way to the bank. They get rid of Sterling, which they've wanted to do for decades and it makes every one else's team worth more. If the Clips are worth $3 billion, the Lakers, Knicks, and Bulls have to be worth $3 billion!

I would think that the NBA Franchise OWNERS would want the Clippers value to be as much as possible.
4 months ago the Clippers were worth $550,000,000 so Ballmer is paying a 4 times up charge.

Like I said whoever set this up is a genius.... and has worked the NBA, NAACP and the franchise owners very well. Art of the deal.

Edit: don't fool yourself.