(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:44 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:34 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:26 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 10:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I can't imagine A&M or Mizzou being too excited about playing Big 12 programs that they abandoned when they jumped to The SEC. I would expect to see both play more more ACC programs in the southeast. Presently A&M and Missouri don't have any Big 12 programs scheduled through the end of the decade.

A&M definitely wants nothing to do with the Big 12 at the moment. That's pretty obvious.

On the other hand, I don't see Mizzou being militant like that. I think they'd be game to use an OOC slot to regularly play a rotation of Nebraska, Illinois and the current Big 12 teams (sans WVU.) Gives them a regional OOC game against P5 opponents that they have history with. In some cases they have a lot of history. In others less so but it ensures they're playing in Texas as regularly as possible.

Can't see a Missouri WVU match up being anymore compelling than Missouri VaTech or Missouri Syracuse.
CJ

Missouri/VT would be similar to Missouri/WVU, but no interest whatsoever in Missouri/Syracuse

LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated WVU more recently after multiple losses.

(05-12-2014 08:23 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:44 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:34 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:26 AM)brista21 Wrote:  A&M definitely wants nothing to do with the Big 12 at the moment. That's pretty obvious.

On the other hand, I don't see Mizzou being militant like that. I think they'd be game to use an OOC slot to regularly play a rotation of Nebraska, Illinois and the current Big 12 teams (sans WVU.) Gives them a regional OOC game against P5 opponents that they have history with. In some cases they have a lot of history. In others less so but it ensures they're playing in Texas as regularly as possible.

Can't see a Missouri WVU match up being anymore compelling than Missouri VaTech or Missouri Syracuse.
CJ

Missouri/VT would be similar to Missouri/WVU, but no interest whatsoever in Missouri/Syracuse

LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated SU more recently after multiple losses.

We know who you are and YOU ARE a WV fan. And WV has suffered multiple losses from SU lately, at home, in the Dome and in a bowl game.

(05-12-2014 08:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:23 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:44 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:34 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Can't see a Missouri WVU match up being anymore compelling than Missouri VaTech or Missouri Syracuse.
CJ

Missouri/VT would be similar to Missouri/WVU, but no interest whatsoever in Missouri/Syracuse

LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated SU more recently after multiple losses.

Dude, we know who you are and YOU ARE a WV fan. And WV has suffered multiple losses from SU lately, at home, in the Dome and in a bowl game.

Sorry, you don't get to decide who or what I am and you have no clue about who I am apparently. It appears you have let your hatred of certain programs get the best of you.

I'd be happy to go to the history books and present the multiple defeats SU suffered to WVU, but there isn't any point and you or anyone can look those up yourself.

(05-12-2014 12:23 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:34 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:26 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 10:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I can't imagine A&M or Mizzou being too excited about playing Big 12 programs that they abandoned when they jumped to The SEC. I would expect to see both play more more ACC programs in the southeast. Presently A&M and Missouri don't have any Big 12 programs scheduled through the end of the decade.

A&M definitely wants nothing to do with the Big 12 at the moment. That's pretty obvious.

On the other hand, I don't see Mizzou being militant like that. I think they'd be game to use an OOC slot to regularly play a rotation of Nebraska, Illinois and the current Big 12 teams (sans WVU.) Gives them a regional OOC game against P5 opponents that they have history with. In some cases they have a lot of history. In others less so but it ensures they're playing in Texas as regularly as possible.

Can't see a Missouri WVU match up being anymore compelling than Missouri VaTech or Missouri Syracuse.
CJ

When it comes to P5 OOC scheduling options, Mizzou is in the catbird seat. Just counting schools in states that border Missouri, they have 8 choices: Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, K State, Oklahoma and OK State. Nobody else even comes close. They might even choose to play 2 a year now that the SEC has settled on an 8 game schedule.

Tennessee: Georgia Tech (1), Duke (2), UNC (3), WF (4), NCSU (5), UVA (6), VT (7), and UL (8).

Ka-BAM! I just matched MIZZOU.

(05-12-2014 08:39 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:23 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:44 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Missouri/VT would be similar to Missouri/WVU, but no interest whatsoever in Missouri/Syracuse

LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated SU more recently after multiple losses.

Dude, we know who you are and YOU ARE a WV fan. And WV has suffered multiple losses from SU lately, at home, in the Dome and in a bowl game.

Sorry, you don't get to decide who or what I am and you have no clue about who I am apparently. It appears you have let your hatred of certain programs get the best of you.

I'd be happy to go to the history books and present the multiple defeats SU suffered to WVU, but there isn't any point and you or anyone can look those up yourself.

Syracuse leads the series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse%E2...ll_rivalry

(05-12-2014 08:39 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:23 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:44 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Missouri/VT would be similar to Missouri/WVU, but no interest whatsoever in Missouri/Syracuse

LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated SU more recently after multiple losses.

Dude, we know who you are and YOU ARE a WV fan. And WV has suffered multiple losses from SU lately, at home, in the Dome and in a bowl game.

Sorry, you don't get to decide who or what I am and you have no clue about who I am apparently. It appears you have let your hatred of certain programs get the best of you.

I'd be happy to go to the history books and present the multiple defeats SU suffered to WVU, but there isn't any point and you or anyone can look those up yourself.

I can assure you that I dont have any hatred against WV or any other team. Its just sports. and the teams are full of kids. But the all time series is 33-27 Syracuse. And thats after WV went on a run and won 7 straight during Greg Robinson years.

(05-12-2014 08:51 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:39 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:34 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:23 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  LOL, I can certainly see why a WV fan doesn't want to see SYracuse on the field, the way the Eers have been knocked around by SU lately. Truth is though, that Mizzou vs SU would be just as compelling a matchup as Mizzou vs WV. At least Syracuse would have a chance to beat Mizzou judging by the fact that SU beat Mizzu at Mizzou just 2 seasons ago, while WV likely won't make it to a bowl, yet again. I told you guys when we were in the BE that Holgerson is not right for WV.

Not sure why you are bashing WVU but if you are addressing me I didn't go to WVU and don't have an association with WVU. From a national perspective there would be more interest in a Missouri/WVU game and WVU has beaten Missouri in the past as well and also defeated SU in the past although you are correct SU defeated SU more recently after multiple losses.

Dude, we know who you are and YOU ARE a WV fan. And WV has suffered multiple losses from SU lately, at home, in the Dome and in a bowl game.

Sorry, you don't get to decide who or what I am and you have no clue about who I am apparently. It appears you have let your hatred of certain programs get the best of you.

I'd be happy to go to the history books and present the multiple defeats SU suffered to WVU, but there isn't any point and you or anyone can look those up yourself.

I can assure you that I dont have any hatred against WV or any other team. Its just sports. and the teams are full of kids. But the all time series is 33-27 Syracuse. And thats after WV went on a run and won 7 straight during Greg Robinson years.

*8 straight

Don't understand how anyone could place WVU ahead of Syracuse on the national perception scale. In terms of history Syracuse is the older more established program. The Orange won a national title in 1959. That's why I made the suggestion of Missouri vs Syracuse. Considering Missouri has never beaten Syracuse and holds a winning record against WVU, I doubt Tiger fans see WVU as the more schedule enhancing program.
CJ

(05-12-2014 08:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 12:23 PM)ken d Wrote:  [quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743545' dateline='1399912468']
[quote='brista21' pid='10743501' dateline='1399912014']
[quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743401' dateline='1399910355']

When it comes to P5 OOC scheduling options, Mizzou is in the catbird seat. Just counting schools in states that border Missouri, they have 8 choices: Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, K State, Oklahoma and OK State. Nobody else even comes close. They might even choose to play 2 a year now that the SEC has settled on an 8 game schedule.

Tennessee: Georgia Tech (1), Duke (2), UNC (3), WF (4), NCSU (5), UVA (6), VT (7), and UL (8).

Ka-BAM! I just matched MIZZOU.

Except for the original list, the poster forgot to add Iowa St and Louisville, which ups Missouri 's total to 10.

On a side note....in regards to WV...where has Bitcruncher been...wonder if he is ok...

(05-13-2014 06:48 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 12:23 PM)ken d Wrote:  [quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743545' dateline='1399912468']
[quote='brista21' pid='10743501' dateline='1399912014']
[quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743401' dateline='1399910355']

When it comes to P5 OOC scheduling options, Mizzou is in the catbird seat. Just counting schools in states that border Missouri, they have 8 choices: Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, K State, Oklahoma and OK State. Nobody else even comes close. They might even choose to play 2 a year now that the SEC has settled on an 8 game schedule.

Tennessee: Georgia Tech (1), Duke (2), UNC (3), WF (4), NCSU (5), UVA (6), VT (7), and UL (8).

Ka-BAM! I just matched MIZZOU.

Except for the original list, the poster forgot to add Iowa St and Louisville, which ups Missouri 's total to 10.

Touché! I'm smart enough to know when I'm fighting a losing battle.

(05-13-2014 09:49 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 06:48 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 12:23 PM)ken d Wrote:  [quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743545' dateline='1399912468']
[quote='brista21' pid='10743501' dateline='1399912014']
[quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743401' dateline='1399910355']

When it comes to P5 OOC scheduling options, Mizzou is in the catbird seat. Just counting schools in states that border Missouri, they have 8 choices: Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, K State, Oklahoma and OK State. Nobody else even comes close. They might even choose to play 2 a year now that the SEC has settled on an 8 game schedule.

Tennessee: Georgia Tech (1), Duke (2), UNC (3), WF (4), NCSU (5), UVA (6), VT (7), and UL (8).

Ka-BAM! I just matched MIZZOU.

Except for the original list, the poster forgot to add Iowa St and Louisville, which ups Missouri 's total to 10.

Touché! I'm smart enough to know when I'm fighting a losing battle.

You would think being from Raleigh I would have recognized how the four ACC schools in NC would give UT a leg up. Actually, I considered including Louisville to Mizzou's total, but their border with Kentucky is so short I thought it would be piling on. Shame on me, though, for including Iowa but excluding Iowa State.

Personally, I don't see why Tennessee hasn't hooked up with Virginia Tech on a more or less permanent basis. Maybe 150,000 fans in Bristol will kick start that.

(05-13-2014 10:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 09:49 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 06:48 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 12:23 PM)ken d Wrote:  [quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743545' dateline='1399912468']
[quote='brista21' pid='10743501' dateline='1399912014']
[quote='CardinalJim' pid='10743401' dateline='1399910355']

When it comes to P5 OOC scheduling options, Mizzou is in the catbird seat. Just counting schools in states that border Missouri, they have 8 choices: Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, K State, Oklahoma and OK State. Nobody else even comes close. They might even choose to play 2 a year now that the SEC has settled on an 8 game schedule.

Tennessee: Georgia Tech (1), Duke (2), UNC (3), WF (4), NCSU (5), UVA (6), VT (7), and UL (8).

Ka-BAM! I just matched MIZZOU.

Except for the original list, the poster forgot to add Iowa St and Louisville, which ups Missouri 's total to 10.

Touché! I'm smart enough to know when I'm fighting a losing battle.

You would think being from Raleigh I would have recognized how the four ACC schools in NC would give UT a leg up. Actually, I considered including Louisville to Mizzou's total, but their border with Kentucky is so short I thought it would be piling on. Shame on me, though, for including Iowa but excluding Iowa State.

Personally, I don't see why Tennessee hasn't hooked up with Virginia Tech on a more or less permanent basis. Maybe 150,000 fans in Bristol will kick start that.

Tennessee, for many years, has tried to have their major non-conference match-up against opponents in fertile recruiting grounds. For a good while, that was California. At the time, only USC was regularly getting the blue chips out of their state, so Tennessee wanted to travel out their for recruiting purposes. They picked up quite a few excellent west coasters over the years, especially the skilled positions. Until recently, the state of Tennessee has produced few blue chippers, especially outside of Memphis. It was a necessity for UT to travel in the past.