Unreal, but not surprising...

Quote:A Detroit teacher has reportedly been fired after breaking up an in-class fight between students with a broom.

Two male students are seen fighting for at least 30 seconds on a cellphone video before the unidentified female teacher at Pershing High School intervenes, apparently striking one of the students on the back with the broom multiple times, MyFoxDetroit.com reports.

Keith Johnson, president of the Detroit Federation of Teachers, said he understood the teacher’s motive for using the broom, but said she was wrong for using the object as she did.

"Unfortunately, the method that she used, in terms of swatting one with a broom, is a violation of the corporal punishment provision under the Michigan school code,” Johnson said. “But she's caught in a quandary because under that same code she's expected to do what is necessary to diffuse a situation.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/07/tea...latestnews

She'll still vote D.

Now she should have went right after that and got it on with anotehr female teacher in the classroom... Then she would be unfireable..

(05-07-2014 12:04 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Unreal, but not surprising...

Quote:A Detroit teacher has reportedly been fired after breaking up an in-class fight between students with a broom.

Two male students are seen fighting for at least 30 seconds on a cellphone video before the unidentified female teacher at Pershing High School intervenes, apparently striking one of the students on the back with the broom multiple times, MyFoxDetroit.com reports.

Keith Johnson, president of the Detroit Federation of Teachers, said he understood the teacher’s motive for using the broom, but said she was wrong for using the object as she did.

"Unfortunately, the method that she used, in terms of swatting one with a broom, is a violation of the corporal punishment provision under the Michigan school code,” Johnson said. “But she's caught in a quandary because under that same code she's expected to do what is necessary to diffuse a situation.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/07/tea...latestnews

We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

So just let the two little punks beat each other to death instead of trying to stop them. Yea boy.

(05-07-2014 01:19 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

So just let the two little punks beat each other to death instead of trying to stop them. Yea boy.

You don't have to let them fight. I cannot tell you how many fights I have stopped by simply yelling for them to stop.

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

You are "allowed to call security"? I hope that you meant you are "instructed to call" because if you are only "allowed" it implies that you have discretion as to whether or not you call for help.

I'll bet if you follow the rules, call for help, don't interfere, and someone is harmed, you'll be sued.

So where was the security guard? Is the teacher supposed to leave the room while the fight is going on to find a security guard? How are they summoned?

(05-07-2014 01:21 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

You are "allowed to call security"? I hope that you meant you are "instructed to call" because if you are only "allowed" it implies that you have discretion as to whether or not you call for help.

I'll bet if you follow the rules, call for help, don't interfere, and someone is harmed, you'll be sued.

I can definitely see that happening.

(05-07-2014 01:21 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

You are "allowed to call security"? I hope that you meant you are "instructed to call" because if you are only "allowed" it implies that you have discretion as to whether or not you call for help.

I'll bet if you follow the rules, call for help, don't interfere, and someone is harmed, you'll be sued.

Instructed is a better.

I can assure you however that some teachers I know are slow to respond if the kid getting beat down is someone they dislike.

Pathetic.

I've been picked up by my freaking NECK by a teacher during a fight. In High School, I had a Science teacher that looked like a black frog. She MADE us call her Queen Gilbert, her favorite snack was a Butterfinger, you got detention if you LOOKED AROUND without asking her permission first, and didn't do that until you were allowed to speak, and couldn't do that without first raising your hand and waiting for her to look up at you and ask what you wanted, sometimes waiting 15 or 20 minutes. Two guys got in a fight once, she made them stop, called them into the hallway, then called all of us out there and made us stand in a circle. Then she made them finish while we all watched. When one couldn't stand any longer, she broke them up and took them to the principle's office for suspension.

To make a short story long, when I was in school, we actually got disciplined and our parents all agreed to it. When I got disciplined at school, I normally got grounded when I got home. Of course, that was back when parents still called the shots and weren't afraid of their little punk ass kids. My kids run all over their mom, but they don't dare cross me because I'm a traditional family man and still believe in discipline, they'll get their butts torn up.

(05-07-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:21 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

You are "allowed to call security"? I hope that you meant you are "instructed to call" because if you are only "allowed" it implies that you have discretion as to whether or not you call for help.

I'll bet if you follow the rules, call for help, don't interfere, and someone is harmed, you'll be sued.

Instructed is a better.

I can assure you however that some teachers I know are slow to respond if the kid getting beat down is someone they dislike.

If I were you, I'd delete that last sentence. That's something I don't think you'd want used as fodder against teachers.

(05-07-2014 01:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Pathetic.

I've been picked up by my freaking NECK by a teacher during a fight.

Same here and he was one of the best damn teachers I ever had!

(05-07-2014 01:37 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:21 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We have always been instructed to not interfere with a fight. We are allowed only to call security or administration and only they are allowed to physically stop a fight from happening.

My sister who is also a teacher once got in trouble because she tackled a student who pulled a knife and was going to stab another student.

You are "allowed to call security"? I hope that you meant you are "instructed to call" because if you are only "allowed" it implies that you have discretion as to whether or not you call for help.

I'll bet if you follow the rules, call for help, don't interfere, and someone is harmed, you'll be sued.

Instructed is a better.

I can assure you however that some teachers I know are slow to respond if the kid getting beat down is someone they dislike.

If I were you, I'd delete that last sentence. That's something I don't think you'd want used as fodder against teachers.

Pfft.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.s...ly_en.html

Sadly most of this is true.

My mom and fiance are both teachers and I get so frustrated (they are too) every time they tell me a story like this.

There is no such thing as discipline in school anymore because of lawsuits and parents who refuse to believe their kids can do anything wrong. Kids are starting to catch on to this (even the young ones) and are taking advantage of it. There was a kid that punched a parent volunteer on a field trip bc she had told the child to stop hitting another child with a stick... The result: the parent was questioned about what she could have done to provoke the child and told she could never volunteer for the school again. The child received no punishment.

Makes me sick to think that some of these kids are our future.

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(05-07-2014 01:38 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Pathetic.

I've been picked up by my freaking NECK by a teacher during a fight.

Same here and he was one of the best damn teachers I ever had!

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Mrs. Gilbert was one of the best I ever had as well... And Mr. McConathy was the one who picked me up by my neck, he was amazing as well. He was about 7' tall and I wanna say he played in the NBA in the 50's or 60's... We had another teacher that would make us do 75 push-ups for talking in class... And my buddy got paddled by the principle his Sr year... They'd be lambasted for that these days. And jailed for child abuse.

(05-07-2014 01:48 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  Sadly most of this is true.

My mom and fiance are both teachers and I get so frustrated (they are too) every time they tell me a story like this.

There is no such thing as discipline in school anymore because of lawsuits and parents who refuse to believe their kids can do anything wrong. Kids are starting to catch on to this (even the young ones) and are taking advantage of it. There was a kid that punched a parent volunteer on a field trip bc she had told the child to stop hitting another child with a stick... The result: the parent was questioned about what she could have done to provoke the child and told she could never volunteer for the school again. The child received no punishment.

Makes me sick to think that some of these kids are our future.

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It's already beginning to show because that first wave of spoiled ass holes have made it into or just past college, if they got that far.

(05-07-2014 01:56 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:38 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Pathetic.

I've been picked up by my freaking NECK by a teacher during a fight.

Same here and he was one of the best damn teachers I ever had!

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Mrs. Gilbert was one of the best I ever had as well... And Mr. McConathy was the one who picked me up by my neck, he was amazing as well. He was about 7' tall and I wanna say he played in the NBA in the 50's or 60's... We had another teacher that would make us do 75 push-ups for talking in class... And my buddy got paddled by the principle his Sr year... They'd be lambasted for that these days. And jailed for child abuse.

Had a 6th grade teacher that was infamous for hurling a chalk board eraser at anyone that was talking/cutting up during class. She was a great teacher. It didn't happen often, but when it did, the hilarious nature of the event diffused any built up tension.

I'm sure if your kid got in a fight, you wouldn't want me picking them up by the neck.

It's just common sense.

(05-07-2014 02:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sure if your kid got in a fight, you wouldn't want me picking them up by the neck.

It's just common sense.

If my kid was in a fight and would not break it up I'd rather have a teacher grab them by the scruff of the neck than to sit there while they and another kids were beating the crap out of each other while a teacher looked on.