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Cliven Bundy - D E S T R O Y E D!
Quote:Students of the history of the American West have long known that the strong, rugged individualists that populate our movies, TV shows, and myths always depended on government – to give them ownership of their farms and ranches, to subsidize private corporations like railroads for access to markets, for federal troops for protection from Indians, and federally funded dams and canals for irrigating their fields and sustaining their livestock and towns.

The idea that Bundy’s pioneer ancestors somehow made their fortunes (“built that”) without any help, before the invention of government assistance, the Bureau of Land Management or federal regulations, is preposterous.

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The Homestead Act was one of the most far-reaching and important pieces of legislation ever enacted in the United States. It was also undeniably a massive (and successful) social welfare program. It gave an applicant ownership – at no cost! – of farmland made up of 160 acres of undeveloped federal land. The land wasn’t what some on the libertarian right would archly call a “handout”: a would-be homesteader was required to file an application, improve the land by building fences and structures, and, after five years’ residency and toil, file for a permanent deed of title. But it was a government program designed both to settle the West with farmers and ranchers and to dispose of the public lands. “Winners” were undoubtably picked.
How The Cliven Bundy Saga Exposes America's Most Enduring Myth



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Thanks for confirming Jerry. 04-cheers
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and the point?
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Red, enjoy the Benghazi hearings. Of course you will not believe any of what comes out, but believe me, the American people will. See you at the midterms.
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The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.
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This is like 10th grade U.S. history stuff. Unlike some people who receive "handouts" farmers, ranchers, etc. are actually doing something productive for society. Everything built to support that industry was done for the good of the American people. Roads, railroads, canals, etc weren't exclusive to farmers. Oh, and we want to brag about the fact that "free" farmland was given to them? Then why is it such a big fkin deal that cattle farmers must pay money to let their cows eat grass? It's either free or it's not free.

Let's not sit here and pretend that the homestead act was implemented when bundy first came on the scene. My ancestors could've benefited from slavery but that doesn't mean I do.
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For a guy who demands proof, you certainly don't provide any. In fact, you didn't even have a point. Oh, that's called trolling. And you're not any good at it.
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(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

True, we just need much LESS of it.....and a real American LEADER
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(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

How does "everyone" benefit from govt when govt does not produce anything, but takes from one group and gives to another?
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(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.
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(05-05-2014 12:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.

Awww, feeling left out?

03-lmfao
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(05-05-2014 11:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and the point?

If you remember, Mr. Bundy does not even recognize the US Government. First, while he rides around on a horse carrying the US Flag, and second by benefiting from it with the land he and his family now own.

He's just not very smart...except when he teaches his class on Negro studies.
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(05-05-2014 12:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.

Can you be more specific?
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(05-05-2014 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and the point?

If you remember, Mr. Bundy does not even recognize the US Government. .

Did he say he did not recognize the govt or the feds right to own 90%+ of a US state?

Serious Question..
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(05-05-2014 12:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.

Can you be more specific?

Most of us benefit, that's true. But everybody who works gets fuucked in the ass.
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(05-05-2014 12:51 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.

Can you be more specific?

Most of us benefit, that's true. But everybody who works gets fuucked in the ass.

I said be more specific not more graphic. 03-lmfao03-lmfao
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(05-05-2014 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and the point?

If you remember, Mr. Bundy does not even recognize the US Government. First, while he rides around on a horse carrying the US Flag, and second by benefiting from it with the land he and his family now own.

He's just not very smart...except when he teaches his class on Negro studies.

Commietom, is lying again putting words in Bundy's mouth. If he didn't recognize the US it would be a simple matter of arresting him for tax evasion, since he never would have ever paid taxes.
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(05-05-2014 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and the point?

If you remember, Mr. Bundy does not even recognize the US Government. First, while he rides around on a horse carrying the US Flag, and second by benefiting from it with the land he and his family now own.

He's just not very smart...except when he teaches his class on Negro studies.

So which of these are the reason you hate him?
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(05-05-2014 12:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:51 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 12:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The point is that everyone benefits from our government. If they didn't, there would be no need for it.

But not everybody gets it up the ass from our government.

Can you be more specific?

Most of us benefit, that's true. But everybody who works gets fuucked in the ass.

I said be more specific not more graphic. 03-lmfao03-lmfao

While hard workers get shat upon by having tax dollars pulled out, we're paying those who sit at home not doing shiit because they don't want to work. They get all benefit and feel no repercussion.
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