MB is a Memphian...yes.

(05-02-2014 01:04 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:53 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:26 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:23 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 10:15 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  you are not helping your case... the grizz did ok while he was hurt...we can trade him for someone better

13 of the Grizzlies 32 losses happened when he was injured. They were 10-13 without him and 40-19 with him. Exactly a guy you should trade.

playing without him is different than trading him for a better player..

you guys do know what trade means right??

Some of the better NBA centers:
-Demarcus Cousins
-Andrew Bogut
-Omar Asik
-Al Jefferson
-Tyson Chandler
-Brook Lopez
-Robin Lopez
-Roy Hibbert
-Al Hofford
-Joakim Noah
-Dwight Howard

So who would you trade for? Sacramento probably wouldn't move Cousins. Chicago wouldn't move Noah. Charlotte probably wouldn't move Jefferson. Even if they would Jefferson doesn't play defense. I am sure that Indiana will trade Hibbert. Is he better than Gasol? Nope. Houston might trade Asik. Is he better? No way. So that would leave the often injured Tyson Chandler or one of the Lopez brothers. Would you really rather have one of them? C'mon.

It's still dumb to even think about trading Gasol. His salary doesn't keep you from adding pieces around him. He plays defense, rebounds and has both a face up and a post game. He is also a very good facilitator. He is consistently ranked in the top 5 of best centers in the league. Sometimes he does disappear and defer to his teammates instead of taking a shot but if I could only keep 2 players from this team I would keep him and Conley.

We are talking about real life Marc Gasol, not 2k Marc. He does not rebound nor does he have a post game. He also doesn't block shots his role on defense is to tell the guys in the front where to be so they can do all the real defending.

He is not a center you build your franchise around because he acts as if he is a pg on both offense and defense. The OP is right he needs to go because he will bring in the biggest return. Trade him for a young athletic big who will block shots rebound score in the post occasionally, plus draft pics and I'm positive there wont be much of a difference.

So, give us some trade scenarios.

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I had hoped the clueless reactionary posts would stay on the Tiger board. Too much to ask I guess since we are talking about the same clueless reactionary posters

And here I was hoping they would stay on blazers.com.

I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Oh, give me a break. Are you serious? Good lord.

Trading Marc makes no sense. It especially makes no sense in the absence of a trade scenario. It's one thing to say "Trade Marc for someone better", it's another to give a plausible example of a trade where we land "someone better".

(05-02-2014 12:53 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:26 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:23 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 10:15 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 10:12 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Look up our record with him in the lineup and without him in the lineup.

you are not helping your case... the grizz did ok while he was hurt...we can trade him for someone better

13 of the Grizzlies 32 losses happened when he was injured. They were 10-13 without him and 40-19 with him. Exactly a guy you should trade.

playing without him is different than trading him for a better player..

you guys do know what trade means right??

Some of the better NBA centers:
-Demarcus Cousins
-Andrew Bogut
-Omar Asik
-Al Jefferson
-Tyson Chandler
-Brook Lopez
-Robin Lopez
-Roy Hibbert
-Al Hofford
-Joakim Noah
-Dwight Howard

So who would you trade for? Sacramento probably wouldn't move Cousins. Chicago wouldn't move Noah. Charlotte probably wouldn't move Jefferson. Even if they would Jefferson doesn't play defense. I am sure that Indiana will trade Hibbert. Is he better than Gasol? Nope. Houston might trade Asik. Is he better? No way. So that would leave the often injured Tyson Chandler or one of the Lopez brothers. Would you really rather have one of them? C'mon.

It's still dumb to even think about trading Gasol. His salary doesn't keep you from adding pieces around him. He plays defense, rebounds and has both a face up and a post game. He is also a very good facilitator. He is consistently ranked in the top 5 of best centers in the league. Sometimes he does disappear and defer to his teammates instead of taking a shot but if I could only keep 2 players from this team I would keep him and Conley.

Gasol > Cousins. He's fun to watch if he's not yours. Add 1 more T to this year. He was automatically suspended when he reached 16.

http://hoopshype.com/articles/hoopshype/...ast-decade

(05-02-2014 01:26 PM)Morkai Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I had hoped the clueless reactionary posts would stay on the Tiger board. Too much to ask I guess since we are talking about the same clueless reactionary posters

And here I was hoping they would stay on blazers.com.

I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Oh, give me a break. Are you serious? Good lord.

Trading Marc makes no sense. It especially makes no sense in the absence of a trade scenario. It's one thing to say "Trade Marc for someone better", it's another to give a plausible example of a trade where we land "someone better".

Where did I say I wanted to trade Marc?

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I had hoped the clueless reactionary posts would stay on the Tiger board. Too much to ask I guess since we are talking about the same clueless reactionary posters

And here I was hoping they would stay on blazers.com.

I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Good grief you are an idiot. The only blazer that has anything to do with anything would be if Memphis meets up with the Trailblazers. Who I root for in college has nothing to do with anything.

Many Tiger fans here hated the Grizzlies until they jumped on the winning bandwagon.

(05-02-2014 01:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I had hoped the clueless reactionary posts would stay on the Tiger board. Too much to ask I guess since we are talking about the same clueless reactionary posters

And here I was hoping they would stay on blazers.com.

I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Good grief you are an idiot. The only blazer that has anything to do with anything would be if Memphis meets up with the Trailblazers. Who I root for in college has nothing to do with anything.

Many Tiger fans here hated the Grizzlies until they jumped on the winning bandwagon.

Name calling...how UAB of you.

If Grizz trade Gasol I'll never watch another nba game. The way that game was officiated last night almost drove me to it last night.

(05-02-2014 01:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:26 PM)Morkai Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  And here I was hoping they would stay on blazers.com.

I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Oh, give me a break. Are you serious? Good lord.

Trading Marc makes no sense. It especially makes no sense in the absence of a trade scenario. It's one thing to say "Trade Marc for someone better", it's another to give a plausible example of a trade where we land "someone better".

Where did I say I wanted to trade Marc?

I'm talking about this ridiculous notion that this forum wasn't "made" for Blazer fans. It seems awfully petty to tell a Grizzly fan they shouldn't be here because they don't root for the other exact same teams you do. This board would be better off if more people came here to talk Grizz.

(05-02-2014 01:53 PM)Morkai Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:26 PM)Morkai Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I'm a Grizzlies fan. This is a grizzlies forum. I'm supposed to be here.

A Grizzlies forum for Tiger fans...

Here you go:
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showforum=5

From our Mods:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-616478.html

Quote:The Grindhouse forum was created for the passionate GRIZZLIES fans that we have on memphistigers.org

It wasn't made for folks from Blazertalk...

Oh, give me a break. Are you serious? Good lord.

Trading Marc makes no sense. It especially makes no sense in the absence of a trade scenario. It's one thing to say "Trade Marc for someone better", it's another to give a plausible example of a trade where we land "someone better".

Where did I say I wanted to trade Marc?

I'm talking about this ridiculous notion that this forum wasn't "made" for Blazer fans. It seems awfully petty to tell a Grizzly fan they shouldn't be here because they don't root for the other exact same teams you do. This board would be better off if more people came here to talk Grizz.

I don't make the rules...perhaps you should learn to say what you mean? If you dont know what you're talking about, how am I supposed to know?

(05-02-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I don't make the rules...perhaps you should learn to say what you mean? If you dont know what you're talking about, how am I supposed to know?

I know better than to get involved in a back in forth with you. I'll leave it up to the moderators to decide who can and can't post here. Everyone is welcome, in my book.

(05-02-2014 01:57 PM)Morkai Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I don't make the rules...perhaps you should learn to say what you mean? If you dont know what you're talking about, how am I supposed to know?

I know better than to get involved in a back in forth with you. I'll leave it up to the moderators to decide who can and can't post here. Everyone is welcome, in my book.

Smart man...

(05-02-2014 01:04 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:53 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:26 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 12:23 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 10:15 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  you are not helping your case... the grizz did ok while he was hurt...we can trade him for someone better

13 of the Grizzlies 32 losses happened when he was injured. They were 10-13 without him and 40-19 with him. Exactly a guy you should trade.

playing without him is different than trading him for a better player..

you guys do know what trade means right??

Some of the better NBA centers:
-Demarcus Cousins
-Andrew Bogut
-Omar Asik
-Al Jefferson
-Tyson Chandler
-Brook Lopez
-Robin Lopez
-Roy Hibbert
-Al Hofford
-Joakim Noah
-Dwight Howard

So who would you trade for? Sacramento probably wouldn't move Cousins. Chicago wouldn't move Noah. Charlotte probably wouldn't move Jefferson. Even if they would Jefferson doesn't play defense. I am sure that Indiana will trade Hibbert. Is he better than Gasol? Nope. Houston might trade Asik. Is he better? No way. So that would leave the often injured Tyson Chandler or one of the Lopez brothers. Would you really rather have one of them? C'mon.

It's still dumb to even think about trading Gasol. His salary doesn't keep you from adding pieces around him. He plays defense, rebounds and has both a face up and a post game. He is also a very good facilitator. He is consistently ranked in the top 5 of best centers in the league. Sometimes he does disappear and defer to his teammates instead of taking a shot but if I could only keep 2 players from this team I would keep him and Conley.

We are talking about real life Marc Gasol, not 2k Marc. He does not rebound nor does he have a post game. He also doesn't block shots his role on defense is to tell the guys in the front where to be so they can do all the real defending.

He is not a center you build your franchise around because he acts as if he is a pg on both offense and defense. The OP is right he needs to go because he will bring in the biggest return. Trade him for a young athletic big who will block shots rebound score in the post occasionally, plus draft pics and I'm positive there wont be much of a difference.

this^^^ i never said you had to trade him for a center.. we could get picks and Or better players. Marc is not the same player he was. Make the move and get something for him while we can

(05-02-2014 01:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Good grief you are an idiot. The only blazer that has anything to do with anything would be if Memphis meets up with the Trailblazers. Who I root for in college has nothing to do with anything.

Many Tiger fans here hated the Grizzlies until they jumped on the winning bandwagon.

I'm delighted you're a Grizz fan, but when you say things like this:

(05-02-2014 12:12 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I had hoped the clueless reactionary posts would stay on the Tiger board. Too much to ask I guess since we are talking about the same clueless reactionary posters

It sounds like trolling the Tigers.

No just the stupid fans you have there.

Didn't say anything negative about the Tigers

(05-02-2014 04:54 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  No just the stupid fans you have there.

Didn't say anything negative about the Tigers

This forum has become more enjoyable than the forum on the Griz website to me. If you didn't have Blazer in your name and wasn't a regular poster, they'd have no idea you weren't a tiger fan.

Anyone who wants the limit the perspectives and opinions is someone who enjoys blissful ignorance.

(05-02-2014 05:00 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 04:54 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  No just the stupid fans you have there.

Didn't say anything negative about the Tigers

This forum has become more enjoyable than the forum on the Griz website to me. If you didn't have Blazer in your name and wasn't a regular poster, they'd have no idea you weren't a tiger fan.

Anyone who wants the limit the perspectives and opinions is someone who enjoys blissful ignorance.

I just like messing with MB, it's fun...

(05-02-2014 10:10 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  I know... I know call me crazy. This post might get me banned HAHA but i don't care

i'm sick of him... i'm sick of passive bigmen from spain!

won't shoot when he needs to... won't rebound when he needs to.

I don't want to hear about "what the does on defense is intangible.. it's not in the box score"..screw that.. the box score also says 104 to 84.

i have never seen a center that will not get in the paint and work. He will literally set 5-6 screens in a row before he even touches the paint. A center with his size and skill should be averaging 20-25 points and 10 rebounds. He's the opposite of grit and grind!

get rid of him now before the rest of the league finds out

Ridiculous

(05-02-2014 10:10 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  I know... I know call me crazy. This post might get me banned HAHA but i don't care

i'm sick of him... i'm sick of passive bigmen from spain!

won't shoot when he needs to... won't rebound when he needs to.

I don't want to hear about "what the does on defense is intangible.. it's not in the box score"..screw that.. the box score also says 104 to 84.

i have never seen a center that will not get in the paint and work. He will literally set 5-6 screens in a row before he even touches the paint. A center with his size and skill should be averaging 20-25 points and 10 rebounds. He's the opposite of grit and grind!

get rid of him now before the rest of the league finds out