(05-05-2014 08:20 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  After this weekend C-USA has a #8 conference ranking and 8 top-100 RPI schools:

Rice - 6
ODU - 29
FIU - 41
USM - 63
UAB - 66
ECU - 70
UTSA - 98
FAU - 100

By comparison the AAC has 4, MWC has 4, Big West 6, MVC 5, PAC12 8. This clearly shows that this is not a top heavy conference and on any given weekend you're in for a dogfight.

Methinks FIU has a shot at an at-large, as well.

To answer a question above. ECU's Assoc. AD Gary Overton is tge president of both the rules and selection committies.

(05-05-2014 10:55 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Methinks FIU has a shot at an at-large, as well.

All 8 of their remaining games are against teams from 100-159 in RPI, so no huge RPI anchors. They will need to win both series (MT & Tulane) to have a shot.

(05-03-2014 08:36 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:32 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Baseball is different. This isn't some BCS deal. CUSA used to send 5 to Regionals every year. We've just fallen off and we aren't beating bad teams that we should beat. Even if we do upset a big team, it's seen as a fluke instead of a good win.

??? When did CUSA regularly send 5 teams to the regionals?-- certainly not since Rice joined in 2006. I believe since then, there was only one year when the conference got 5 teams in. Usually, it has been 3 teams, with a couple years of only 2 and a similar number with 4 teams earning births. This is an odd year, IMO. The conference as a whole is significantly superior to last year, but the problem is that in-conference teams have been beating each other up...and, as a consequence, only Rice and USM have strong conference records. And USM is still suffering from it's early season struggles.

"Regularly sending five" may be an exaggeration but we regularly sent four and occasionally five.

C-USA got a boost at the top with Rice but lacks the depth that it used to have. Even prior to the most recent realignment, C-USA has been a shell of what it used to be with Tulane, USM, and ECU all on the decline--as was Houston prior to leaving.

The poster may have been wrong about "regularly five" but his point still stands. The conference has been shown respect in the past when it deserved it. The conference is getting no respect this year because it doesn't deserve it. ODU has been awful in C-USA play--for a team that wants to make a regional, at least. FIU was exposed as preying on a weak OOC schedule.

I can assure you that we are not in the position we are in because of "early season struggles." IMO, we have largely played at the same level in conference play. The statistics would illustrate this. We have continued to play sloppy baseball, defensively, and lack hitting. We rely on our starting pitching to be outstanding. The difference is simply that we have been able to beat conference teams with this level of play. We have been able to maybe get that one hit that makes the difference....or have benefited from miscuses by our opponents. We didn't even have Roney for a couple of weekends! The fact that we have won as many games as we have speaks volumes, to me.

This is a one....maybe two-bid league....and it doesn't deserve to be any more.

(05-05-2014 12:11 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-03-2014 08:36 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:32 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Baseball is different. This isn't some BCS deal. CUSA used to send 5 to Regionals every year. We've just fallen off and we aren't beating bad teams that we should beat. Even if we do upset a big team, it's seen as a fluke instead of a good win.

??? When did CUSA regularly send 5 teams to the regionals?-- certainly not since Rice joined in 2006. I believe since then, there was only one year when the conference got 5 teams in. Usually, it has been 3 teams, with a couple years of only 2 and a similar number with 4 teams earning births. This is an odd year, IMO. The conference as a whole is significantly superior to last year, but the problem is that in-conference teams have been beating each other up...and, as a consequence, only Rice and USM have strong conference records. And USM is still suffering from it's early season struggles.

"Regularly sending five" may be an exaggeration but we regularly sent four and occasionally five.

C-USA got a boost at the top with Rice but lacks the depth that it used to have. Even prior to the most recent realignment, C-USA has been a shell of what it used to be with Tulane, USM, and ECU all on the decline--as was Houston prior to leaving.

The poster may have been wrong about "regularly five" but his point still stands. The conference has been shown respect in the past when it deserved it. The conference is getting no respect this year because it doesn't deserve it. ODU has been awful in C-USA play--for a team that wants to make a regional, at least. FIU was exposed as preying on a weak OOC schedule.

I can assure you that we are not in the position we are in because of "early season struggles." IMO, we have largely played at the same level in conference play. The statistics would illustrate this. We have continued to play sloppy baseball, defensively, and lack hitting. We rely on our starting pitching to be outstanding. The difference is simply that we have been able to beat conference teams with this level of play. We have been able to maybe get that one hit that makes the difference....or have benefited from miscuses by our opponents. We didn't even have Roney for a couple of weekends! The fact that we have won as many games as we have speaks volumes, to me.

This is a one....maybe two-bid league....and it doesn't deserve to be any more.

Well, the Sun Belt regularly finished above C-USA in Conference RPI, and some of their better teams have moved to C-USA this year. I don't think old SBC teams are making it a "shell", as you call it.

MT has been on the decline for about 3 years, but we have been to 14 NCAA Regionals.

Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.

(05-05-2014 01:02 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 12:11 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-03-2014 08:36 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:32 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Baseball is different. This isn't some BCS deal. CUSA used to send 5 to Regionals every year. We've just fallen off and we aren't beating bad teams that we should beat. Even if we do upset a big team, it's seen as a fluke instead of a good win.

??? When did CUSA regularly send 5 teams to the regionals?-- certainly not since Rice joined in 2006. I believe since then, there was only one year when the conference got 5 teams in. Usually, it has been 3 teams, with a couple years of only 2 and a similar number with 4 teams earning births. This is an odd year, IMO. The conference as a whole is significantly superior to last year, but the problem is that in-conference teams have been beating each other up...and, as a consequence, only Rice and USM have strong conference records. And USM is still suffering from it's early season struggles.

"Regularly sending five" may be an exaggeration but we regularly sent four and occasionally five.

C-USA got a boost at the top with Rice but lacks the depth that it used to have. Even prior to the most recent realignment, C-USA has been a shell of what it used to be with Tulane, USM, and ECU all on the decline--as was Houston prior to leaving.

The poster may have been wrong about "regularly five" but his point still stands. The conference has been shown respect in the past when it deserved it. The conference is getting no respect this year because it doesn't deserve it. ODU has been awful in C-USA play--for a team that wants to make a regional, at least. FIU was exposed as preying on a weak OOC schedule.

I can assure you that we are not in the position we are in because of "early season struggles." IMO, we have largely played at the same level in conference play. The statistics would illustrate this. We have continued to play sloppy baseball, defensively, and lack hitting. We rely on our starting pitching to be outstanding. The difference is simply that we have been able to beat conference teams with this level of play. We have been able to maybe get that one hit that makes the difference....or have benefited from miscuses by our opponents. We didn't even have Roney for a couple of weekends! The fact that we have won as many games as we have speaks volumes, to me.

This is a one....maybe two-bid league....and it doesn't deserve to be any more.

Well, the Sun Belt regularly finished above C-USA in Conference RPI, and some of their better teams have moved to C-USA this year. I don't think old SBC teams are making it a "shell", as you call it.

MT has been on the decline for about 3 years, but we have been to 14 NCAA Regionals.

Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.

If by regularly, you mean last year and only last year....yes.

(05-05-2014 02:20 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 01:02 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(05-05-2014 12:11 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-03-2014 08:36 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:32 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Baseball is different. This isn't some BCS deal. CUSA used to send 5 to Regionals every year. We've just fallen off and we aren't beating bad teams that we should beat. Even if we do upset a big team, it's seen as a fluke instead of a good win.

??? When did CUSA regularly send 5 teams to the regionals?-- certainly not since Rice joined in 2006. I believe since then, there was only one year when the conference got 5 teams in. Usually, it has been 3 teams, with a couple years of only 2 and a similar number with 4 teams earning births. This is an odd year, IMO. The conference as a whole is significantly superior to last year, but the problem is that in-conference teams have been beating each other up...and, as a consequence, only Rice and USM have strong conference records. And USM is still suffering from it's early season struggles.

"Regularly sending five" may be an exaggeration but we regularly sent four and occasionally five.

C-USA got a boost at the top with Rice but lacks the depth that it used to have. Even prior to the most recent realignment, C-USA has been a shell of what it used to be with Tulane, USM, and ECU all on the decline--as was Houston prior to leaving.

The poster may have been wrong about "regularly five" but his point still stands. The conference has been shown respect in the past when it deserved it. The conference is getting no respect this year because it doesn't deserve it. ODU has been awful in C-USA play--for a team that wants to make a regional, at least. FIU was exposed as preying on a weak OOC schedule.

I can assure you that we are not in the position we are in because of "early season struggles." IMO, we have largely played at the same level in conference play. The statistics would illustrate this. We have continued to play sloppy baseball, defensively, and lack hitting. We rely on our starting pitching to be outstanding. The difference is simply that we have been able to beat conference teams with this level of play. We have been able to maybe get that one hit that makes the difference....or have benefited from miscuses by our opponents. We didn't even have Roney for a couple of weekends! The fact that we have won as many games as we have speaks volumes, to me.

This is a one....maybe two-bid league....and it doesn't deserve to be any more.

Well, the Sun Belt regularly finished above C-USA in Conference RPI, and some of their better teams have moved to C-USA this year. I don't think old SBC teams are making it a "shell", as you call it.

MT has been on the decline for about 3 years, but we have been to 14 NCAA Regionals.

Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.

If by regularly, you mean last year and only last year....yes.

Yeah, outside of last year and this year, C-USA has been pretty consistently ranked as the 5th rated rpi conference with the Big West generally ranked 6th and those two sometimes switching places. Tulane and Houston struggling the past few years has really hurt the conference and more recently Southern Miss and now ECU beggining to fall out of the top 40 has hurt the overall conf. rating.

The entrenched theme coming from USM fans is obvious. Frustrations in football and not being in the AAC right now have left some of you bitter. And frankly, I would feel exactly the same way, so I won't fault or judge you guys.

But in this instance its tainting your view. This has been a very good league this year. Not a great one, but still very good. Even there in Hattiesburg you don't go 4-0 against Ole Miss and Bama unless you have some skills and talent. A lot of parity and good compeition this season within the conference and the fact that two or three teams haven't run away with it doesn't mean everyone is average.

This league deserves at least three and may get four, but I think the one thing that hurts C-USA is the AAC is only going to get three this year, and if you look at these two leagues their RPI's are near identical so it may be tough to get four. But three is a given. The quesiton is who. It's probably going to take the conf tournament to sort it out. To say we don't deserve more than one is beyond absurd.

(05-08-2014 11:11 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  The entrenched theme coming from USM fans is obvious. Frustrations in football and not being in the AAC right now have left some of you bitter. And frankly, I would feel exactly the same way, so I won't fault or judge you guys.

But in this instance its tainting your view. This has been a very good league this year. Not a great one, but still very good. Even there in Hattiesburg you don't go 4-0 against Ole Miss and Bama unless you have some skills and talent. A lot of parity and good compeition this season within the conference and the fact that two or three teams haven't run away with it doesn't mean everyone is average.

This league deserves at least three and may get four, but I think the one thing that hurts C-USA is the AAC is only going to get three this year, and if you look at these two leagues their RPI's are near identical so it may be tough to get four. But three is a given. The quesiton is who. It's probably going to take the conf tournament to sort it out. To say we don't deserve more than one is beyond absurd.

??? I'll agree that the conference is better than some are claiming; however, there is no way CUSA deserves 3 or 4 teams in the post-season this year. Overall, we're a much better baseball conference thant he AAC, where there are 3 Top 30 teams, but no one else in the Top 100, and more sub-200 clubs than CUSA.

You're mistaken if you think 3 CUSA teams is a given. Unless some team other than Rice wins the tourney, it's not even a given that we'll field two teams...and quite honestly, given the various resumes (e.g., RPI, record vs. Top 25/50/100, conference record), that's fair reality. I don't put much stock in the various projections, but NOBODY (and there are at least 8 - 10 projection out there this week) at this point is projecting CUSA with more than 2 teams, and those that include a 2nd team has that team squarely on the bubble.

Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly help get us three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

(05-08-2014 12:12 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly get three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

1. Though I disagree with it's use by the Selection Committee, RPI is more important in baseball than any of the other sports. The Selection Committee almost always weighs RPI more heavily than any other criteria in determining national seeds, regional hosts and at large invites. And though that helps ODU at the moment, the rest of their resume is awful (e.g., record vs. Top 25/50/100, conference record, road record). Anyone with an RPI below 40 is on the bubble (out) for an at large birth, pending a magical run in the conference tourney.

2. I'm scratching my head how you think CUSA teams have a chance to significantly improve RPI over the next 3 weeks, since we'll all be playing against each other, and only Rice has a high enough RPI to truly move the needle for others.

(05-08-2014 12:12 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly help get us three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

I don't think you should discount ECU so quickly, as I believe all of their remaining games are vs. Top 100 teams. They have the opportunity to improve their RPI.

I think C-USA is deserving of 3 bids, IF the right teams take care of business down the stretch. I think 4 would be a stretch but not impossible. The truth is the SEC, Big 12, ACC and PAC 12 are going to take 75-80% of the at-large bids.

(05-08-2014 12:19 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:12 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly get three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

1. Though I disagree with it's use by the Selection Committee, RPI is more important in baseball than any of the other sports. The Selection Committee almost always weighs RPI more heavily than any other criteria in determining national seeds, regional hosts and at large invites. And though that helps ODU at the moment, the rest of their resume is awful (e.g., record vs. Top 25/50/100, conference record, road record). Anyone with an RPI below 40 is on the bubble (out) for an at large birth, pending a magical run in the conference tourney.

2. I'm scratching my head how you think CUSA teams have a chance to significantly improve RPI over the next 3 weeks, since we'll all be playing against each other, and only Rice has a high enough RPI to truly move the needle for others.

Regarding #1, RPI is used more in basketball than baseball, so we'll have to agree to disagree there. But to your point it is used as one measure, so it's important just not as important as basketball (unless that's changed in the last couple of years).

Regarding #2, if you will look back over the past few weeks you will see how the strength of the conference has begun to help improve not only the league's RPI standing but also individual teams. We went from 10th to eighth (actually seventh for a week) and only four teams in the Top 100 to eight in the Top 100 and it's nearly nine as MT with just outside. As we have discussed what we need to do with basketball scheduling we did just that nearly exactly as we needed to in baseball scheduling to affect the bottom line RPI results as we get closer to the end of the season.

I know ECU and USM play each other but everywhere else there are opportunities where bubble teams in the conference are playing someone with no chance of getting an at-large. As result there is a very good chance for them to improve their RPI because there are no major RPI killers in conference. In fact, you will see just that if UAB wins both of their final series' against Tulane and FAU.

Lastly, there are some remaning non-conference games still left to be played too. UAB has very important one with Auburn, for example.

(05-08-2014 12:24 PM)EaglehasLanded Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:12 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly help get us three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

I don't think you should discount ECU so quickly, as I believe all of their remaining games are vs. Top 100 teams. They have the opportunity to improve their RPI.

I think C-USA is deserving of 3 bids, IF the right teams take care of business down the stretch. I think 4 would be a stretch but not impossible. The truth is the SEC, Big 12, ACC and PAC 12 are going to take 75-80% of the at-large bids.

Fair point as well, but ECU probably has a little more ground to make up than the others I mentioned but yes I agree I could have easily have put either ECU or USM. One of you will probably end up cancelling out the other though and I went with USM because the series is in Hattiesburg and your guys are better at home than ECU is on the road.

(05-08-2014 12:19 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:12 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fair point though RPI is less of a factor in baseball. And there is still three weeks of baseball left to improve some of those RPI's and win totals.

It really depends on how the final few weeks of the season goes and if the right teams win the most amount of games.

Rice is in regardless and there are three schools I believe have the opportunity for a nice bump in RPI assuming they don't choke down the stretch and those are UAB, USM and FIU. If just two of those get it done I think you can see them have a shot to possiblly get three total with Rice. And then there's ODU who has one of the better profiles but hasn't done as well in conference. They have the easiest schedule going down the stretch and if they win out would be sitting at 35-20 going into the C-USA Tournament with a top 30 RPI.

It's probably not likely that all them will have things go their way down the stretch, so I'll pull back on four. But I think three is very plausible.

1. Though I disagree with it's use by the Selection Committee, RPI is more important in baseball than any of the other sports. The Selection Committee almost always weighs RPI more heavily than any other criteria in determining national seeds, regional hosts and at large invites. And though that helps ODU at the moment, the rest of their resume is awful (e.g., record vs. Top 25/50/100, conference record, road record). Anyone with an RPI below 40 is on the bubble (out) for an at large birth, pending a magical run in the conference tourney.

2. I'm scratching my head how you think CUSA teams have a chance to significantly improve RPI over the next 3 weeks, since we'll all be playing against each other, and only Rice has a high enough RPI to truly move the needle for others.

What will also hurt ODU is their current spot in the CUSA standings. Currently in 7th. If they can get back into the top 4, they'll have a better chance, but they only have 3 conference games left to do that. Their RPI ranking will take a hit even if they win the 3 games against Marshall and that is due to Marshall's record that will be factored into ODU's RPI. Other than their current RPI ranking, the rest of their resume isn't that great. Rice is the only lock for CUSA at the moment. I think ODU, FIU, UAB, and USM are on the outside looking in.

Houston is an example of conference ranking hurting you. They are in the top 10 in the RPI, but will not get consideration for a national seed unless they can significantly close the gap between them and UCF. Also, outside of 1 game against Rice, their remaining SOS is putrid. Their RPI ranking will tumble even if they win the rest of their games.

Defintitley agree there on the standings. That said, if ODU wins all three on the road against a sub 200 team (though barely) their RPI will not drop. If they lose the series; however, they're done. Their games against Long Island though are all three must win games. They can't afford even one sub 200 loss here at the end of the season.

IMO, Houston is already out of the national seed picture precisely because they're almost sure to finish 3rd in the AAC. In this case, conference ranking trumps everything else on the resume. In fact, despite their Top 10 RPI and very strong resume vs. Top 25/50/100, I think Houston is on the bubble for hosting a regional because of their conference record.

RPI is more important in basketball than baseball with regards to post-season selection and seeding? Strongly disagree. The only thing that can offset the heavy weight the Committee gives to RPI is winning a conference championship, or finishing outside the Top 2 in conference.

The reason is because baseball teams play as many as four or five games against the same teams in a given year. If you go 2-2 against a non-conference opponent in the top 50 what's the net result the committee is supposed to draw? Yes, it's a factor, but baseball RPIs are far more manipulated than basketball and they know this. In basketball you're playing that top 50 opponent only once. You either win or lose. Another reason is because more than half of the games in baseball are played in conference whereas in basketball more than half the games are played OOC, so there is less authenticity to baseball RPI than there is basketball RPI and they know that.

It's why a 49-win Campbell team from last year that went 9-1 against the Top 100 didn't get in. They dinged them for lack of schedule strength. And they didn't use RPI to do that, because well they won 90% of their games against the top 100.

The majority of the at-large teams are going to come from the ACC and SEC like it does in most years. The conference bias is extremely strong in baseball much like the other sports. You guys are fooling yourselves if you think RPI is more than just a reference or starting point. Yes, it's a comparison tool between two teams if they are struggling between the two and an important factor but not nearly as important as their overall perceptions about who is good and who performed the best against the best teams. And they're not just using RPI to assess that. At least not those AD's and commissioners on the committee who did their homework and followed the season like they should. The most significant factor the committee uses with respect to the RPI is how many top 50 games did you play and how does your record compare to others against top 50 teams.

In Campbell's case they didn't have enough top 50 games whereas Coastal Carolina lost 13 more games had an RPI 10 points lower than Campbell and got in largely because they played 15 top-50 games. Though they only won five of them.

So, I just showed you an example of how in one sense they ignored the RPI with respect to Campbell's overall performance but used single RPI metric to put CC in instead.

(05-08-2014 12:55 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Defintitley agree there on the standings. That said, if ODU wins all three on the road against a sub 200 team (though barely) their RPI will not drop. If they lose the series; however, they're done. Their games against Long Island though are all three must win games. They can't afford even one sub 200 loss here at the end of the season.

Yes their RPI will drop. You have to consider the fact that 50% of your RPI calculation is your opponent's winning percentage for each time you play them. In this case, Marshall's 39% WP will now be a part of ODU's OWP calculation of the RPI three times. Just by playing the games, ODU's RPI will drop.

(05-08-2014 03:16 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:55 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Defintitley agree there on the standings. That said, if ODU wins all three on the road against a sub 200 team (though barely) their RPI will not drop. If they lose the series; however, they're done. Their games against Long Island though are all three must win games. They can't afford even one sub 200 loss here at the end of the season.

Yes their RPI will drop. You have to consider the fact that 50% of your RPI calculation is your opponent's winning percentage for each time you play them. In this case, Marshall's 39% WP will now be a part of ODU's OWP calculation of the RPI three times. Just by playing the games, ODU's RPI will drop.

Maybe not though, because they are away games. An away game win counts as 1.3 wins.