(04-26-2014 08:05 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Chris Schenkel of ABC Sports used to say, "There is no better way to spend a Saturday afternoon than college football".

Here, he calls the 1969 Game of the Year. #1Texas at #2 Arkansas. Enjoy this throwback, wishbone, wonder. Especially, you Longhorn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszLa0AhBxI

I remember the day vividly. I was sick as a dog, but forced to take the SAT exam on that Saturday. On a related note, our family atty. was a former AK OL and unbearable when it came to razzing me about choosing UT. But that "W" was sweet because it shut him up...for about a second.

Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

That would be part of the scholarship agreement. The $500 is independent of scholarships; so walk-on's get it as well.

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

I'm talking about living on campus. There is a two year mandate to stay on campus . You don't get a check when your living in campus dorms. And I never made a statement about bag men. When your on campus all you have is a meal plan and dining dollars. Dining dollars after ten are only good at vending machines. And those run out fast when your an athletes. So yes some night you can go to sleep hungry while being a scholarship athlete. As you can see I never spoke on my off campus housing situation. That was vastly more economic.

(04-27-2014 04:26 PM)watchngars Wrote:  That would be part of the scholarship agreement. The $500 is independent of scholarships; so walk-on's get it as well.

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

My off campus check was round 725.00 if I can remember. Covered rent , utilities and food.

(04-27-2014 04:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

I'm talking about living on campus. There is a two year mandate to stay on campus . You don't get a check when your living in campus dorms. And I never made a statement about bag men. When your on campus all you have is a meal plan and dining dollars. Dining dollars after ten are only good at vending machines. And those run out fast when your an athletes. So yes some night you can go to sleep hungry while being a scholarship athlete. As you can see I never spoke on my off campus housing situation. That was vastly more economic.

Sorry the bag man thing was FMB not you. I completely agree that living off campus is MUCH MORE economic. As you said $725 leaves plenty of money outside of rent. I still had snacks in my room but never had a problem making 19 meals a week keeping me full or getting in dinner between practice (7pmish) and 10pm.

Watchngars - I just noticed you said $500 a school year which makes more sense now since I originally thought $200 semester.

Well, this is instructive. I started college @ Gettysburg in PA. Got ZERO dollars per week, month, or any other time despite what my parents could afford. Why? Because they paid for my meal plan, my books and dorm room. Nothing else expected.

EXCEPT- the food especially SUCKED! As in jail house rock sucked. Flat soda, cold **** after literally running directly from the rugby practice to "d" hall, wilted hot salad if you wanted one, or a cold mystery meat burger or chicken patty sammich. No apologies offered.

We bought the majority of our clothes at the local goodwill and would cut off the legs of some dead old mans pants for practice shorts in order to save our cool shorts. Late night food or munchies? Ha! Didn't exist, they all closed by 10 pm, so you had to do a thing called "plan ahead". Popcorn or perhaps a can of chunky soup usually fit the bill.

And this wasn't exactly the days of the depression here, mid to late 80's. I guess schit has changed since then, but a little resourcefulness and doing for yourself can take you a long way.

(04-27-2014 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

I'm talking about living on campus. There is a two year mandate to stay on campus . You don't get a check when your living in campus dorms. And I never made a statement about bag men. When your on campus all you have is a meal plan and dining dollars. Dining dollars after ten are only good at vending machines. And those run out fast when your an athletes. So yes some night you can go to sleep hungry while being a scholarship athlete. As you can see I never spoke on my off campus housing situation. That was vastly more economic.

Sorry the bag man thing was FMB not you. I completely agree that living off campus is MUCH MORE economic. As you said $725 leaves plenty of money outside of rent. I still had snacks in my room but never had a problem making 19 meals a week keeping me full or getting in dinner between practice (7pmish) and 10pm.

Watchngars - I just noticed you said $500 a school year which makes more sense now since I originally thought $200 semester.

Dang , never had 19 meals haha.

(04-23-2014 12:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The amount of pity and woe is me attitudes about the poor athletes is astounding. They receive a $100,000 education for free along with many other perks. Poor darlings have to pee in a cup for the privilege. What have we become? What have we become?

I think Division III is the only pure college athletic experience remaining. Play for the love of the sport and team.

There goes that term for free. As an employee at JMU you can take classes at JMU for with no cost. Is it free since since you are employed by the university.

Jeff Bourne has been making close to 50 k a year just managing the athletics at JMU. If there every came a day where club sports can bring in a crowd and offer a profit they would hire an AD as well. When club basketball at JMU plays club basketball at VT there are no checks being thousand dollar play us checks being exchanged.

Division one college sports is a business. I committed to a division three school before I was recruited by JMU my senior yr. The D3 school insisted that I go D1 for
Better competition and money. The NCAA has been fooling people with this student athlete title. Then when athletes go to class and learn about economics and labor , we then understand this is a business . If I didn't run a 4.4 and could tackle I would have gladly paid for my education. An education which is a CHOICE, regular students DO NOT have to attend college.

Nothing is free , all the gear has some type of athletic purpose. A student can't wear none of that gear to a presentation or a business meeting.

What about all the kids who get an opportunity to go to a great school, that they never would have been admitted to, if not for athletics? Nobody ever talks about that little perk. These kids have no respect for the value of the opportunity that they are being presented, and far too many of them kick and scream when the NCAA tries to make them take advantage of the world of opportunity that they are being afforded.

(04-27-2014 09:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The amount of pity and woe is me attitudes about the poor athletes is astounding. They receive a $100,000 education for free along with many other perks. Poor darlings have to pee in a cup for the privilege. What have we become? What have we become?

I think Division III is the only pure college athletic experience remaining. Play for the love of the sport and team.

There goes that term for free. As an employee at JMU you can take classes at JMU for with no cost. Is it free since since you are employed by the university.

Jeff Bourne has been making close to 50 k a year just managing the athletics at JMU. If there every came a day where club sports can bring in a crowd and offer a profit they would hire an AD as well. When club basketball at JMU plays club basketball at VT there are no checks being thousand dollar play us checks being exchanged.

Division one college sports is a business. I committed to a division three school before I was recruited by JMU my senior yr. The D3 school insisted that I go D1 for
Better competition and money. The NCAA has been fooling people with this student athlete title. Then when athletes go to class and learn about economics and labor , we then understand this is a business . If I didn't run a 4.4 and could tackle I would have gladly paid for my education. An education which is a CHOICE, regular students DO NOT have to attend college.

Nothing is free , all the gear has some type of athletic purpose. A student can't wear none of that gear to a presentation or a business meeting.

What about all the kids who get an opportunity to go to a great school, that they never would have been admitted to, if not for athletics? Nobody ever talks about that little perk. These kids have no respect for the value of the opportunity that they are being presented, and far too many of them kick and scream when the NCAA tries to make them take advantage of the world of opportunity that they are being afforded.

Is it a perk ? Or is it that being admitted is the only way they can play for you school ? And there is a difference between non-qualifier and minimum qualifier . One of those means you qualified to gain acceptance.

(04-27-2014 09:15 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 09:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The amount of pity and woe is me attitudes about the poor athletes is astounding. They receive a $100,000 education for free along with many other perks. Poor darlings have to pee in a cup for the privilege. What have we become? What have we become?

I think Division III is the only pure college athletic experience remaining. Play for the love of the sport and team.

There goes that term for free. As an employee at JMU you can take classes at JMU for with no cost. Is it free since since you are employed by the university.

Jeff Bourne has been making close to 50 k a year just managing the athletics at JMU. If there every came a day where club sports can bring in a crowd and offer a profit they would hire an AD as well. When club basketball at JMU plays club basketball at VT there are no checks being thousand dollar play us checks being exchanged.

Division one college sports is a business. I committed to a division three school before I was recruited by JMU my senior yr. The D3 school insisted that I go D1 for
Better competition and money. The NCAA has been fooling people with this student athlete title. Then when athletes go to class and learn about economics and labor , we then understand this is a business . If I didn't run a 4.4 and could tackle I would have gladly paid for my education. An education which is a CHOICE, regular students DO NOT have to attend college.

Nothing is free , all the gear has some type of athletic purpose. A student can't wear none of that gear to a presentation or a business meeting.

What about all the kids who get an opportunity to go to a great school, that they never would have been admitted to, if not for athletics? Nobody ever talks about that little perk. These kids have no respect for the value of the opportunity that they are being presented, and far too many of them kick and scream when the NCAA tries to make them take advantage of the world of opportunity that they are being afforded.

Is it a perk ? Or is it that being admitted is the only way they can play for you school ? And there is a difference between non-qualifier and minimum qualifier . One of those means you qualified to gain acceptance.

Hell yeah it's a perk to be admitted to a school that would otherwise laugh at your credentials. But kids are too damn arrogant these days to realize that and take advantage of a tremendous opportunity given to them to become educated.

It's funny as **** how many average college football players think they bring in millions of dollars. They all aren't Johnny Manziel.

(04-27-2014 07:58 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

I'm talking about living on campus. There is a two year mandate to stay on campus . You don't get a check when your living in campus dorms. And I never made a statement about bag men. When your on campus all you have is a meal plan and dining dollars. Dining dollars after ten are only good at vending machines. And those run out fast when your an athletes. So yes some night you can go to sleep hungry while being a scholarship athlete. As you can see I never spoke on my off campus housing situation. That was vastly more economic.

Sorry the bag man thing was FMB not you. I completely agree that living off campus is MUCH MORE economic. As you said $725 leaves plenty of money outside of rent. I still had snacks in my room but never had a problem making 19 meals a week keeping me full or getting in dinner between practice (7pmish) and 10pm.

Watchngars - I just noticed you said $500 a school year which makes more sense now since I originally thought $200 semester.

Dang , never had 19 meals haha.

Thanks for the haha vs lol or even anything of value. I believe all scholarship athletes get 19 meals these days, is it only 14? Considering you never seem to add facts and self described "assumptions" I'm going to assume things have changed in the last 10 years.

I pose two questions.
(1)Does a student that is unqualified for the school academically really get anything out of going to that school. JMU provided an excellent opportunity for many of us but if you were dumb as rocks going into JMU, chances are, you are still dumb when you leave. Yes I understand you might have a diploma that despite you being dumb, will help you out tremendously more than not having one.
(2) Is a college education right for everyone or is NCAA making money off 18 year old kids that should have gone into the military, trade school or the work force while sitting behind this "we are going to give you a great opportunity veil?

I don't believe college is best for 100% of high school seniors but the NCAA/College programs will make sure its right for the best athletes.

(04-28-2014 07:02 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 07:58 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 04:10 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Watchngars - Thanks for the correction, I thought $200 was closer but this was 5+ years ago. Do you know what the monthly check is for rent and other living expenses?

HotRod- Why does it matter what time on campus dining options close? They receive monthly funds that exceeds the average H'burg rent. Do student athletes not have fridges in their apartments or the free time to go the grocery store? I lived with student athletes for 5 years at JMU (3 were spent in the most expense apartment complex), not once did a single one of them complain about food and I know they didn't get money from their parents. I also knew the financial situation of 10-15 guys on the team, only 1 received a Pell grant. I know your situation and I know some situations are tougher than others but NO JMU scholarship athlete should pull out the "I went to bed hungry" cause its frankly BS. They receive more than enough CASH to provided them with rent and supplement their meal plans. And no I'm not talking about bag men, not even sure why that crossed your mind, I'm talking legitimate scholarships checks.

I'm talking about living on campus. There is a two year mandate to stay on campus . You don't get a check when your living in campus dorms. And I never made a statement about bag men. When your on campus all you have is a meal plan and dining dollars. Dining dollars after ten are only good at vending machines. And those run out fast when your an athletes. So yes some night you can go to sleep hungry while being a scholarship athlete. As you can see I never spoke on my off campus housing situation. That was vastly more economic.

Sorry the bag man thing was FMB not you. I completely agree that living off campus is MUCH MORE economic. As you said $725 leaves plenty of money outside of rent. I still had snacks in my room but never had a problem making 19 meals a week keeping me full or getting in dinner between practice (7pmish) and 10pm.

Watchngars - I just noticed you said $500 a school year which makes more sense now since I originally thought $200 semester.

Dang , never had 19 meals haha.

Thanks for the haha vs lol or even anything of value. I believe all scholarship athletes get 19 meals these days, is it only 14? Considering you never seem to add facts and self described "assumptions" I'm going to assume things have changed in the last 10 years.

What ? 1) I only know what I been thru , and most of my responses are my opinion on a subject. There have been changes since 2004, I just haven't kept up with them. You stated you "believe " are you not sure ? You come up with some broad conclusions with small sample sizes.
If you don't think I have anything of value to say don't respond to me.
Your troll is very strong my friend.

(04-28-2014 07:18 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  I pose two questions.
(1)Does a student that is unqualified for the school academically really get anything out of going to that school. JMU provided an excellent opportunity for many of us but if you were dumb as rocks going into JMU, chances are, you are still dumb when you leave. Yes I understand you might have a diploma that despite you being dumb, will help you out tremendously more than not having one.
(2) Is a college education right for everyone or is NCAA making money off 18 year old kids that should have gone into the military, trade school or the work force while sitting behind this "we are going to give you a great opportunity veil?

I don't believe college is best for 100% of high school seniors but the NCAA/College programs will make sure its right for the best athletes.

1. It's up to each individual person to decide how much they want to benefit from the opportunity to be educated in an environment they otherwise would never have been given a chance.

2. The NCAA doesn't make money off 99% of these kids. Sure, people pay to go watch Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, or Sammy Watkins. No one is making a crapload of money because Taylor Reynolds, Jauan Latney, or Dejor Simmons are playing college football.

If these players don't want the free education (hotrod's head just exploded) then take their skills elsewhere and go play. Just because they don't care about the college education doesn't mean they should be able to bastardize what college is either.

(04-28-2014 06:44 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 09:15 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 09:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:44 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The amount of pity and woe is me attitudes about the poor athletes is astounding. They receive a $100,000 education for free along with many other perks. Poor darlings have to pee in a cup for the privilege. What have we become? What have we become?

I think Division III is the only pure college athletic experience remaining. Play for the love of the sport and team.

There goes that term for free. As an employee at JMU you can take classes at JMU for with no cost. Is it free since since you are employed by the university.

Jeff Bourne has been making close to 50 k a year just managing the athletics at JMU. If there every came a day where club sports can bring in a crowd and offer a profit they would hire an AD as well. When club basketball at JMU plays club basketball at VT there are no checks being thousand dollar play us checks being exchanged.

Division one college sports is a business. I committed to a division three school before I was recruited by JMU my senior yr. The D3 school insisted that I go D1 for
Better competition and money. The NCAA has been fooling people with this student athlete title. Then when athletes go to class and learn about economics and labor , we then understand this is a business . If I didn't run a 4.4 and could tackle I would have gladly paid for my education. An education which is a CHOICE, regular students DO NOT have to attend college.

Nothing is free , all the gear has some type of athletic purpose. A student can't wear none of that gear to a presentation or a business meeting.

What about all the kids who get an opportunity to go to a great school, that they never would have been admitted to, if not for athletics? Nobody ever talks about that little perk. These kids have no respect for the value of the opportunity that they are being presented, and far too many of them kick and scream when the NCAA tries to make them take advantage of the world of opportunity that they are being afforded.

Is it a perk ? Or is it that being admitted is the only way they can play for you school ? And there is a difference between non-qualifier and minimum qualifier . One of those means you qualified to gain acceptance.

Hell yeah it's a perk to be admitted to a school that would otherwise laugh at your credentials. But kids are too damn arrogant these days to realize that and take advantage of a tremendous opportunity given to them to become educated.

It's funny as **** how many average college football players think they bring in millions of dollars. They all aren't Johnny Manziel.

On the other side of that , would that athlete even apply to said school if a coach didn't walk into their living room and offer them a scholarship. I had no plans of attending JMU before I met Coach Davis my senior year.

(04-28-2014 07:30 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:18 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  I pose two questions.
(1)Does a student that is unqualified for the school academically really get anything out of going to that school. JMU provided an excellent opportunity for many of us but if you were dumb as rocks going into JMU, chances are, you are still dumb when you leave. Yes I understand you might have a diploma that despite you being dumb, will help you out tremendously more than not having one.
(2) Is a college education right for everyone or is NCAA making money off 18 year old kids that should have gone into the military, trade school or the work force while sitting behind this "we are going to give you a great opportunity veil?

I don't believe college is best for 100% of high school seniors but the NCAA/College programs will make sure its right for the best athletes.

1. It's up to each individual person to decide how much they want to benefit from the opportunity to be educated in an environment they otherwise would never have been given a chance.

2. The NCAA doesn't make money off 99% of these kids. Sure, people pay to go watch Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, or Sammy Watkins. No one is making a crapload of money because Taylor Reynolds, Jauan Latney, or Dejor Simmons are playing college football.

If these players don't want the free education (hotrod's head just exploded) then take their skills elsewhere and go play. Just because they don't care about the college education doesn't mean they should be able to bastardize what college is either.

Are there superstars in college sure , buts it's a team game. So the no name running on kickoff is wearing the same jersey as the superstar of the team. And I believe there are fans who just love JMU and anyone who wears a JMU jersey. So in some cases the athletics department gets money for just existing.

And there are some standards JMU has in order for you to get in. You can't have "dumb" grades and get in. Most of the time the staff wont recruit a player if they don't have grades. And there are cases where students get to school and have a change of heart and flourish. There might be case for the other way around but I don't have those stats.

How can any of you assume that if you have an athletic scholarship you dont care about nor are you qualified to go to school?

This thread sucks. I dont know why I came back. It just makes me mad.

Theres a whole lot of assuming and hate in this thread.

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(04-28-2014 03:43 PM)FBM2014 Wrote:  How can any of you assume that if you have an athletic scholarship you dont care about nor are you qualified to go to school?

This thread sucks. I dont know why I came back. It just makes me mad.

Theres a whole lot of assuming and hate in this thread.

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Sorry but it's pretty much a fact at most (very close to all) schools that athletes don't go through the same admissions process that everyone else goes through. Sorry that makes you mad.

I can't speak for others in this thread but my references to kids that don't care are the athletes that never go to class, that act like getting a free education isn't payment for playing football, and what not. See many of the UNC football players over the last decade. I'm sure JMU has some of those kind of guys too. It's the law of averages because of the above paragraph.

(04-28-2014 03:50 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:43 PM)FBM2014 Wrote:  How can any of you assume that if you have an athletic scholarship you dont care about nor are you qualified to go to school?

This thread sucks. I dont know why I came back. It just makes me mad.

Theres a whole lot of assuming and hate in this thread.

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Sorry but it's pretty much a fact at most (very close to all) schools that athletes don't go through the same admissions process that everyone else goes through. Sorry that makes you mad.

I can't speak for others in this thread but my references to kids that don't care are the athletes that never go to class, that act like getting a free education isn't payment for playing football, and what not. See many of the UNC football players over the last decade. I'm sure JMU has some of those kind of guys too. It's the law of averages because of the above paragraph.

Call Sonner Hall and ask them ...........