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It's a joke because his name is Lamar. You're just a moron who goes out of their way to be offended, and are a dime a dozen in this day and age.
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(03-31-2014 11:41 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:22 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
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(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
Exactly, you dont care who the regents are because you are only interested in what you want to hear and what ignorant internet rumor supports your personal scenario. And as far as this mythical block of slc programs being block. Here is the problem with this lie. WHO ARE THESE SLC PROGRAMS BEING BLOCKED FROM THE SBC? Mcneese? no
sela? no abilene christian? no sfa? no shsu? no again...hmmm
There is only 1 school ready and willing to jump to fbs, Lamar.
And I know there is no block from either txst and ull. geeez, if the regents approved txst going to fbs and blocked Lamar to fbs, TSUS would lose 4 schools. Lamar, Lamar IT, Lamar st, and Lamar-Orange.
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(03-31-2014 11:49 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

Geez, Texas State is not going to be forced by their regents to bring Lamar into the league. The two things are entirely unrelated.

Regents have no control in the realignment process whatsoever.
Regents had to approve txst to fbs. Those regents have to approve Lamar. Texas st would not block Lamar to fbs without causing a riot. Texas st blocking Lamar to fbs would hurt the TSUS. No way a TSUS school would hurt another TSUS school. TSUS wants all its schools to grow and improve, not just txst.

btw, tsus meeting is in may which would explain why sbc is waiting to announce 12th, if Lamar was the 12th.

The Regents have to vote to approve a team changing conferences. They have no say in whether the SBC invites someone.
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(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.
partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

Naw, ya didn't.
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(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.
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(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

He might not have known the character from the movie, but that isn't the issue here. The point is he is trying associate my picture of Lamar (meant to be funny) as an insult when he is the one assuming Lamar is gay just from one picture of a character he admittedly knows nothing about! And then he takes it as an insult because of Lamar being black or gay. What does it matter if he is gay or black?

In other words, I posted a picture as a pun on the Lamar name. His bigotry saw a gay black man. And yet he brings up the Alabama Civil Rights history? I must have missed where Texas wasn't a Confederate state!

Anyway, moving on to the point at hand... Lamar likely would not have the votes. They screwed themselves in the past by dropping down, and it's not our responsibility to save them or anyone else with an FBS invite. We invite based on best options for the conference, and that isn't Lamar.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:41 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:22 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
Exactly, you dont care who the regents are because you are only interested in what you want to hear and what ignorant internet rumor supports your personal scenario. And as far as this mythical block of slc programs being block. Here is the problem with this lie. WHO ARE THESE SLC PROGRAMS BEING BLOCKED FROM THE SBC? Mcneese? no
sela? no abilene christian? no sfa? no shsu? no again...hmmm
There is only 1 school ready and willing to jump to fbs, Lamar.
And I know there is no block from either txst and ull. geeez, if the regents approved txst going to fbs and blocked Lamar to fbs, TSUS would lose 4 schools. Lamar, Lamar IT, Lamar st, and Lamar-Orange.

I'm interested in facts! Unfortunately you presented none at this point to convince me you know anything other then what you hope will happen. Unlike you, I actually talk to people in the know including RCAF Board members here at UL. These are not people that will support any FBS move from the SLC today. Now here is why dipstick!

First, Lamar was one of the members that voted to push UL (USL) out of the SLC at the time led by McNeese State. They wouldn't allow UL to play spring sports in the SLC because we moved football to D1A. So why in the hell would anyone at UL support such a move? Voting for Lamar would be similar to voting for McNeese State, turning off a large number of season ticket holders, supporters an RCAF members. We have no interest in helping Lamar move up.

Secondly, athletic director Henderson has refused to play UL in baseball and basketball recently. Coach Gilligan got his shorts in knots the last time he traveled to Lafayette because of the umpiring crew. He told Coach Robichaux he would never play in Lafayette again! Henderson has followed through on his statement. Pat Knight did not want to play UL again after our last trip to Lamar, Hendson has not scheduled UL this past season or next season either. So I ask you again, why in the hell would UL support a Lamar move to the Sun Belt?

You clearly haven't spoken to anyone at UL and for the record....UL, ASU and Texas State have voted the same way the last two votes. But...uh..uh...uh....

Anything could happen in the future, but stop presenting things as truth that are blatantly not true today!
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(03-31-2014 12:02 PM)panama Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:41 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:22 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
Exactly, you dont care who the regents are because you are only interested in what you want to hear and what ignorant internet rumor supports your personal scenario. And as far as this mythical block of slc programs being block. Here is the problem with this lie. WHO ARE THESE SLC PROGRAMS BEING BLOCKED FROM THE SBC? Mcneese? no
sela? no abilene christian? no sfa? no shsu? no again...hmmm
There is only 1 school ready and willing to jump to fbs, Lamar.
And I know there is no block from either txst and ull. geeez, if the regents approved txst going to fbs and blocked Lamar to fbs, TSUS would lose 4 schools. Lamar, Lamar IT, Lamar st, and Lamar-Orange.
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(03-31-2014 11:53 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  TxSt not voting for a Lamar transfer to the SBC is not the same as prohibiting them from seeking FBS anywhere else. Grow up. Clearly you are either an argumentative troll, or think hoping something makes it real. By the way, LU has sh!t on UL in return game for both baseball and basketball. We might just also be holding a grudge about that.

An argumentative troll.

Lamar today. I'd say no. Not because I've got whatever hate Swish thinks boils within those opposed to Lamar but because Lamar hasn't done anything to indicate they are a serious applicant.

Lamar has dolled up the plaza around the stadium. That is a positive.
Seem to have a fairly new scoreboard set up. Another positive.
The press box appears to be need of an upgrade but that taken alone wouldn't be a no for me.
They need to add 6000 seats in football to be plausible, where is the announcement on that?
Women's basketball was 191 in RPI.
Baseball is currently in the 200's.
Men's basketball was in the 300's.
Football has won 5 SLC games in three years.

Lamar isn't showing that they would be competitive in any of the Sun Belt's big four sports but most importantly has no plan forward to spend the money to make their stadium viable as an FBS home.

So the plan is to trash the Sun Belt, the members, their states and other applicants to the point we will suddenly see Lamar as ready.
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(03-31-2014 11:41 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:22 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
Exactly, you dont care who the regents are because you are only interested in what you want to hear and what ignorant internet rumor supports your personal scenario. And as far as this mythical block of slc programs being block. Here is the problem with this lie. WHO ARE THESE SLC PROGRAMS BEING BLOCKED FROM THE SBC? Mcneese? no
sela? no abilene christian? no sfa? no shsu? no again...hmmm
There is only 1 school ready and willing to jump to fbs, Lamar.
And I know there is no block from either txst and ull. geeez, if the regents approved txst going to fbs and blocked Lamar to fbs, TSUS would lose 4 schools. Lamar, Lamar IT, Lamar st, and Lamar-Orange.

That's not true. Where is the stadium expansion plan, where are the teams that have finished above .500 in SLC play in football? Basketball has won four conference games the past two years. Women's basketball has done well the past two years but is barely in the second 100 of RPI. There was a decent RPI of 78 in baseball last year but Lamar is in the 200's right now.
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(03-31-2014 11:15 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:04 AM)Roachgone Wrote:  If conference adds another western school and leaves App with no travel partner think the other conference should pay some kind of travel stipend to App since the western schools will have less travel expense. Only seems right thing to do.

I think you are missing the purpose of a travel partner. The travel partner for App benefits the Western schools, not Appalachian state. The idea isn't for App to have someone close by to play against, the idea is for someone to be close to Appalachian state so that western teams can make one trip to the east and play both App and their travel partner in one week/weekend and fly home without having to fly out there twice.

Thank you for explaining it for everyone. App State knew they were on the eastern edge when they joined. The goal is to keep travel cost down for the non football sports. So the travel partner has to be either in Tennnessse, Georgia or even Kentucky. Therefore, we discussed UTC, ETSU and EKU. However, that is not the only qualifier. Eastern school does not mean east of App State.
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(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

Glad someone said this.

I know very little about these matters, but from my point of view it makes very little sense to invite another Texas school that will be the what?...13th fbs program in the state? Especially when we could have the second of only TWO fbs programs in Missouri. Or UMASS (which I also think would be a silly add), or JMU.

I really do feel sad for those schools that have fans that would love to make it to FBS, but might miss out once realignment is all said and done.
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(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

It's Benson and posters doing the contradiction. Benson is very much like a poster by making statements before clearing them through the schools it appears.
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(03-31-2014 05:40 PM)PanAz Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

Glad someone said this.

I know very little about these matters, but from my point of view it makes very little sense to invite another Texas school that will be the what?...13th fbs program in the state? Especially when we could have the second of only TWO fbs programs in Missouri. Or UMASS (which I also think would be a silly add), or JMU.

I really do feel sad for those schools that have fans that would love to make it to FBS, but might miss out once realignment is all said and done.

Plus we have the prospect of UTA restarting football in the future. Therefore we have two Texas schools.

Arkansas - Ark State & Ark LR
Alabama - South Alabama & Troy
Georgia - Ga State & Ga Southern
Idaho
Louisiana - ULL & ULM
New Mexico - NMSU
North Carolina - App State
Texas - Texas State & UTA

Middle of the Footprint - Mississippi (No Schools Available)
Previously in the footprint - Florida (UNF & FGCU possible in future)
Previously in the footprint - Tennessee (ETSU possible in future)
Just outside footprint - Kentucky (EKU slim chance)

Just outside footprint - Missouri (MSU - 2nd FBS school in state)

Missouri State is the best choice for 12/14 because it has the least impact on travel cost for Ark-LR and UT-Arlington. Plus UTA makes great travel partner for Texas State.

If you are South Alabama it looks great.

We fly into Dallas and fly back from San Antonio.
We fly into St. Louis and fly back from Little Rock.
We fly into and back from Charlotte
We fly charter to Augusta or Savannah and fly back from Atlanta.
Or bus to Troy and Atlanta and back.

These are the calculations that need to be done.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

I'd venture to say both...but seeing as this is a fictional representation of a fictional character, I'm sure you could peruse the ol' interwebz and find a more humorous point in time than slavery days or the civil rights era, eh?
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 05:40 PM)PanAz Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

Glad someone said this.

I know very little about these matters, but from my point of view it makes very little sense to invite another Texas school that will be the what?...13th fbs program in the state? Especially when we could have the second of only TWO fbs programs in Missouri. Or UMASS (which I also think would be a silly add), or JMU.

I really do feel sad for those schools that have fans that would love to make it to FBS, but might miss out once realignment is all said and done.

I'm of the opinion that if you haven't proven yourself at the FCS level with championships you should likely wait before making the move. Most App fans would probably agree that the FCS ride was a fun one and trading the experience for an earlier move to FBS would be difficult. There are many aspects at the FCS level that will be missed. 20K plus fans maxing the limits of your small stadium with grass hills and EXCELLENT tailgating along with some of the most rabid fans and intense rivalries in America. Playing the big boys with one arm tied behind your back with nothing but hope. The process of elimination 16 team playoff. Of the 10 most memorable games that I've witnessed and in some cases listened to on the radio, literally on my knees praying at the buzzer, all of them are FCS games. They'll be fine if they have to wait.

I love the statement in this video, " This is as sweet as it get's at the college level and even the pro level". That's what I was thinking.

http://youtu.be/02t-qgwhmm8
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 07:57 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 05:40 PM)PanAz Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

Glad someone said this.

I know very little about these matters, but from my point of view it makes very little sense to invite another Texas school that will be the what?...13th fbs program in the state? Especially when we could have the second of only TWO fbs programs in Missouri. Or UMASS (which I also think would be a silly add), or JMU.

I really do feel sad for those schools that have fans that would love to make it to FBS, but might miss out once realignment is all said and done.

I'm of the opinion that if you haven't proven yourself at the FCS level with championships you should likely wait before making the move. Most App fans would probably agree that the FCS ride was a fun one and trading the experience for an earlier move to FBS would be difficult. There are many aspects at the FCS level that will be missed. 20K plus fans maxing the limits of your small stadium with grass hills and EXCELLENT tailgating along with some of the most rabid fans and intense rivalries in America. Playing the big boys with one arm tied behind your back with nothing but hope. The process of elimination 16 team playoff. Of the 10 most memorable games that I've witnessed and in some cases listened to on the radio, literally on my knees praying at the buzzer, all of them are FCS games. They'll be fine if they have to wait.

I love the statement in this video, " This is as sweet as it get's at the college level and even the pro level". That's what I was thinking.

http://youtu.be/02t-qgwhmm8

Yeah, I can't say I would know what it's like to root for a successful FCS team...or an FBS team for that matter.
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(03-31-2014 06:52 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 05:40 PM)PanAz Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 01:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:58 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

It's not an insult, it's a just a connection. Lamar is a unique name, Lamar from RotN was a memorable character. No one is calling Lamar University black or gay(as if either of those are insults...) you're looking for something that simply isn't there.

Glad someone said this.

I know very little about these matters, but from my point of view it makes very little sense to invite another Texas school that will be the what?...13th fbs program in the state? Especially when we could have the second of only TWO fbs programs in Missouri. Or UMASS (which I also think would be a silly add), or JMU.

I really do feel sad for those schools that have fans that would love to make it to FBS, but might miss out once realignment is all said and done.

Plus we have the prospect of UTA restarting football in the future. Therefore we have two Texas schools.

Arkansas - Ark State & Ark LR
Alabama - South Alabama & Troy
Georgia - Ga State & Ga Southern
Idaho
Louisiana - ULL & ULM
New Mexico - NMSU
North Carolina - App State
Texas - Texas State & UTA

Middle of the Footprint - Mississippi (No Schools Available)
Previously in the footprint - Florida (UNF & FGCU possible in future)
Previously in the footprint - Tennessee (ETSU possible in future)
Just outside footprint - Kentucky (EKU slim chance)

Just outside footprint - Missouri (MSU - 2nd FBS school in state)

Missouri State is the best choice for 12/14 because it has the least impact on travel cost for Ark-LR and UT-Arlington. Plus UTA makes great travel partner for Texas State.

If you are South Alabama it looks great.

We fly into Dallas and fly back from San Antonio.
We fly into St. Louis and fly back from Little Rock.
We fly into and back from Charlotte
We fly charter to Augusta or Savannah and fly back from Atlanta.
Or bus to Troy and Atlanta and back.

These are the calculations that need to be done.

You wouldn't fly to St. Louis, you'd fly to Springfield unless you got a really good airfare deal to fly to Branson.
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Still waiting for an athletic budget to posted...
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(03-31-2014 10:32 PM)UnitedWeFanTXST Wrote:  Still waiting for an athletic budget to posted...

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