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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:01 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 09:38 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  It's cool folks... I just did my own set of calculations.

According to my Pythagorean theorem, it appears... now brace yourself... A&M is leaving the SEC and Florida State is leaving the ACC to accept invites into the Sun Belt. This is on the heels of (again, brace yourself) UALR restarting football, and the west wanting a truly tight knit group. Florida State joining was really just done SOLELY to appease the east.

Sorry, Liberty & Lamar. You guys are left out this round.

After several runs through my random number generator, I see LSU joining the Sun Belt. Apparently they're not pleased with the perception of the SEC for football.

I see where I went off... I forgot to carry the 1.

I agree with Fanatico's mathematics. They are beyond reproach.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:25 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.
App State would like to have a fairly close full member Sun Belt school, but it is far more for the other SBC members to be able to save money with their Oly sports traveling.
If conference adds another western school and leaves App with no travel partner think the other conference should pay some kind of travel stipend to App since the western schools will have less travel expense. Only seems right thing to do.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:04 AM)Roachgone Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:25 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.
App State would like to have a fairly close full member Sun Belt school, but it is far more for the other SBC members to be able to save money with their Oly sports traveling.
If conference adds another western school and leaves App with no travel partner think the other conference should pay some kind of travel stipend to App since the western schools will have less travel expense. Only seems right thing to do.
The sbc western schools have a voting advantage over eastern. Would western school give up that advantage? the wac folded rather than give up western wac school advantage.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:54 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:42 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  My calculation is still based on being told by a Lamar admin that Lamar will join the sbc.
My original prediction was Liberty, Lamar, and Missouri st. now

Lamar gets the invite to become 12th. Next year MSU and EKU becomes 13th and 14th to protect ccg.

Sorry Liberty, politics is keeping you out.

tsu/uta
asu/msu
lu/ull
ulm/ualr
gsu/gsu
usa/troy
app/eku

Lamar?

[Image: lamar-revenge-nerds--large-msg-130651708547.jpg]

No thanks. They already dropped football once before.
What is the insult, black or gay?

Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

From who?
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:04 AM)Roachgone Wrote:  If conference adds another western school and leaves App with no travel partner think the other conference should pay some kind of travel stipend to App since the western schools will have less travel expense. Only seems right thing to do.

I think you are missing the purpose of a travel partner. The travel partner for App benefits the Western schools, not Appalachian state. The idea isn't for App to have someone close by to play against, the idea is for someone to be close to Appalachian state so that western teams can make one trip to the east and play both App and their travel partner in one week/weekend and fly home without having to fly out there twice.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:08 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:04 AM)Roachgone Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:25 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.
App State would like to have a fairly close full member Sun Belt school, but it is far more for the other SBC members to be able to save money with their Oly sports traveling.
If conference adds another western school and leaves App with no travel partner think the other conference should pay some kind of travel stipend to App since the western schools will have less travel expense. Only seems right thing to do.
The sbc western schools have a voting advantage over eastern. Would western school give up that advantage? the wac folded rather than give up western wac school advantage.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

What schools did they reject for membership?
Montana, Montana State, Portland State, Sacramento State, Cal-Davis, Cal Poly all said "not interested" when approached about moving to FBS.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:54 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:42 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  My calculation is still based on being told by a Lamar admin that Lamar will join the sbc.
My original prediction was Liberty, Lamar, and Missouri st. now

Lamar gets the invite to become 12th. Next year MSU and EKU becomes 13th and 14th to protect ccg.

Sorry Liberty, politics is keeping you out.

tsu/uta
asu/msu
lu/ull
ulm/ualr
gsu/gsu
usa/troy
app/eku

Lamar?

[Image: lamar-revenge-nerds--large-msg-130651708547.jpg]

No thanks. They already dropped football once before.
What is the insult, black or gay?

Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

From who?

And there you go! This person has no clue period!
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

Geez, Texas State is not going to be forced by their regents to bring Lamar into the league. The two things are entirely unrelated.

Regents have no control in the realignment process whatsoever.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

From who?
The same admins who "talk to him".

Please try and keep up with this increasingly disturbing scenario
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:54 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Lamar?

[Image: lamar-revenge-nerds--large-msg-130651708547.jpg]

No thanks. They already dropped football once before.
What is the insult, black or gay?

Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:22 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

No, you are spreading internet rumors in ragards to UL. In no way is UL supporting any SLC programs for Sun Belt Conference membership. In fact, UL has maintained a veto block with ASU and Texas State. I don't care who are the regents in Texas. You don't know anyone in UL's administration that would have stated this period. Don't pretend to know otherwise.
Exactly, you dont care who the regents are because you are only interested in what you want to hear and what ignorant internet rumor supports your personal scenario. And as far as this mythical block of slc programs being block. Here is the problem with this lie. WHO ARE THESE SLC PROGRAMS BEING BLOCKED FROM THE SBC? Mcneese? no
sela? no abilene christian? no sfa? no shsu? no again...hmmm
There is only 1 school ready and willing to jump to fbs, Lamar.
And I know there is no block from either txst and ull. geeez, if the regents approved txst going to fbs and blocked Lamar to fbs, TSUS would lose 4 schools. Lamar, Lamar IT, Lamar st, and Lamar-Orange.
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Well ULL might ok your gambit, but not UL @ Lafayette commonly known as Louisiana and UL. We will not approve Lamar now or the near future.

The SBC does not answer to your university system, but it seems you think TxSt is a puppet vote. Bet they appreciate that.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:54 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Lamar?

[Image: lamar-revenge-nerds--large-msg-130651708547.jpg]

No thanks. They already dropped football once before.
What is the insult, black or gay?

Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.
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(03-31-2014 11:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:50 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:31 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:15 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 08:56 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Thought the western teams have already said no to the possibility of any SLC teams.
No, internet gossip. I know for a fact ULL and TXST is in Lamar corner. Travel purpose, maybe ULM would too. ? on UTA. Although Lamar and ASU are traditional rivals, I did hear ASU may not be in Lamar corner on this one.
However USA will give Lamar a yes, I heard.

The SBC is constantly contradicting itself. No western team, then we hear msu. Shorten travel, add umass nmsu all sports. app st travel partner, yet no one in app st neighborhood to be true travel partner.

I know for a fact that UL does not support Lamar or any other SLC program right now. You may have those facts confused with ULM. In fact, UL, Texas State and ASU have been pretty adamant about keeping the SLC block together at this time.
That is your personal opinion. BTW, you do know Texas st and Lamar have the same regents. Does it really make sense to you that they would help TXST improve but deny a partner school. Try again.

Geez, Texas State is not going to be forced by their regents to bring Lamar into the league. The two things are entirely unrelated.

Regents have no control in the realignment process whatsoever.
Regents had to approve txst to fbs. Those regents have to approve Lamar. Texas st would not block Lamar to fbs without causing a riot. Texas st blocking Lamar to fbs would hurt the TSUS. No way a TSUS school would hurt another TSUS school. TSUS wants all its schools to grow and improve, not just txst.

btw, tsus meeting is in may which would explain why sbc is waiting to announce 12th, if Lamar was the 12th.
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TxSt not voting for a Lamar transfer to the SBC is not the same as prohibiting them from seeking FBS anywhere else. Grow up. Clearly you are either an argumentative troll, or think hoping something makes it real. By the way, LU has sh!t on UL in return game for both baseball and basketball. We might just also be holding a grudge about that.
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RE: my new calculations
(03-31-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  What is the insult, black or gay?

Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?
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(03-31-2014 11:23 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 11:13 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-31-2014 10:34 AM)MO State Alum Wrote:  Actually...he was both. But it's not an insult to you. He was a character in Revenge of the Nerds...and it's the first thing I think of when I hear "Lamar" too.

Yeah, when I hear "Lamar" I think of Lamar from the Nerds movie. I really need to watch that movie again sometime. There was no insult; I don't want Lamar because they dropped football once before and who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

I've always wanted Missouri State.
When I think of Alabama, I see water hoses and police dogs on civil rights marchers. Can I post a picture?

So you're comparing someone posting a picture of a character from a movie who happens to share the name of the school in question(and by the way this is a pretty common response to talk of Lamar, I've seen it on multiple message boards many times) to hearing the name of a state and drawing a connection to something that happened half a century ago?

I'm sorry, but that's just kind of crazy. I'm not sure why you'd be butthurt over ssomeone making a very common Lamar joke, one that if you were a Lamar fan or student, you would already be familiar with. The picture of Lamar from RotN being posted at the mention of Lamar and you suggesting posting civil rights pictures in connection with "schools named after southern confederate states" are not even remotely analogous.

what makes it a joke is because it is an insult. if that Lamar character was a normal everyday guy, it would not be funny or insulting. so what makes this guy a joke, is blackness or gayness?

Lamarness

...or would you prefer Headley?
03-31-2014 11:59 AM
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