Question: Were ya'll comic book nerds(term of endearment) as kids or did you get into this as the movies started to come out?

Just curious.

(03-30-2014 07:52 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Question: Were ya'll comic book nerds(term of endearment) as kids or did you get into this as the movies started to come out?

Just curious.

I never liked reading the comics but I loved hearing the synopsis from friends who were into comics.

I have always liked the comic book cartoons that weren't created for small children and therefore silly. My favorite cartoon was the Justice League that came on Cartoon Network and was basically the follow-up to the Batman and Superman series of the 90s.

I grew up like any American boy into the heroes so watching the movies was just a natural progression.

I also buy many of the DC direct to video movies. I tried to get into the Marvel cartoon movies, but they aren't as good.

If I was Warner, I'd create a DC Studios like there is a marvel studios and put whoever is responsible for the cartoon movies in charge of creating 2 or 3 DC movies each year. The cartoons are that good.

Dc animated is really a superior product

(03-30-2014 11:43 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 07:52 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Question: Were ya'll comic book nerds(term of endearment) as kids or did you get into this as the movies started to come out?

Just curious.

I never liked reading the comics but I loved hearing the synopsis from friends who were into comics.

I have always liked the comic book cartoons that weren't created for small children and therefore silly. My favorite cartoon was the Justice League that came on Cartoon Network and was basically the follow-up to the Batman and Superman series of the 90s.

I grew up like any American boy into the heroes so watching the movies was just a natural progression.

I also buy many of the DC direct to video movies. I tried to get into the Marvel cartoon movies, but they aren't as good.

If I was Warner, I'd create a DC Studios like there is a marvel studios and put whoever is responsible for the cartoon movies in charge of creating 2 or 3 DC movies each year. The cartoons are that good.

this is true. I have a couple of little boys and we have all of the justice league and superman and batman on dvd. now we buy up any DC Blu Ray movies. we just got Justice League War, its very good.

(03-30-2014 07:52 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Question: Were ya'll comic book nerds(term of endearment) as kids or did you get into this as the movies started to come out?

Just curious.

I was never into comics as a kid. I just like taking my son to see the new movies. I think that is why I miss some of the minor details of some of these movies since I didn't read the comic books as a kid.

(03-30-2014 07:52 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Question: Were ya'll comic book nerds(term of endearment) as kids or did you get into this as the movies started to come out?

Just curious.

I loved the comic books. I used to get them at the local "pool hall" while my granddad played dominoes or "cards". Usually we would return from fishing and he would head to the pool hall, buy me a coke and whatever comic books I wanted and I would dive into those while he played games and told stories with his buddies.

But, I guess I never paid attention to the DC/Marvel differences.

Recently I have tried to watch Captain America like four or five times and fall asleep each time.

I think my favorite has always been Batman.

Best Marvel Movie ever. Better than Spider-Man 2. Avoid spoilers!

Two credit scenes!

just back from seeing it and it was great. second best marvel movie behind the first iron man. beats out the avengers simply due to a stronger story and some great use of the existing and new characters and some fun easter eggs throughout. just really well done.

It really was great. Better than Avengers. Marvel has only had 1 quality misstep and that was Iron Man 2.

Came home after the movie and saw Man of Steel on HBO. After 30 minutes I was just sad. Grew up a DC fan and Warner Brothers just can't make a good comic book movie without Chris Nolan directing. Marvel just gets it. They make fun, briskly paced, interesting movies that are always true to their characters. EVERYTHING has a purpose in a Marvel movie. The quality of the film-making is just so solid. Man of Steel was a square peg in a round hole. Not a "bad" movie per say, but also not even remotely in the same ballpark as Winter Soldier.

(04-07-2014 08:22 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  It really was great. Better than Avengers. Marvel has only had 1 quality misstep and that was Iron Man 2.

Came home after the movie and saw Man of Steel on HBO. After 30 minutes I was just sad. Grew up a DC fan and Warner Brothers just can't make a good comic book movie without Chris Nolan directing. Marvel just gets it. They make fun, briskly paced, interesting movies that are always true to their characters. EVERYTHING has a purpose in a Marvel movie. The quality of the film-making is just so solid. Man of Steel was a square peg in a round hole. Not a "bad" movie per say, but also not even remotely in the same ballpark as Winter Soldier.

Man of Steel was a change of pace for superman and I believe more in line with the current comic book version of the comic. The film also had to do an origin while CATWS was a sequel and able to jump right into the story.

30 minutes into MoS, you had ten minutes of krypton, a Clark Kent rescue on a oil rig, and a mysterious alien artifact in the artic. Not a single superman sighting.

CA was great because it had an amazing story, a great swerve in the plot, action that was bad ass, and good humor. I was blown away by the ending action of MoS more than the ending action of CA2.

So tell me, how did you like CA First Avenger?

First Avenger is another great movie. Watched it on FX last night. It's like a mix of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Iron Man. Wonderful characters, wonderful story, great humor, great set pieces, but maybe only average action. But I tend to gravitate to films that favor story and characters over action. Winter Soldier was pretty much First Avenger with better action.

Action must be purposeful, otherwise it's just Transformers. And hey, I like the Transformers movies. They are a good way to waste 2 hours every 3 years or so. But I leave them feeling underwhelmed, like I do when watching MOS. That action in MOS looked a lot better in a theater than it did on my 50 inch. Good story and character development doesn't need IMAX.

It boils down to this. Marvel Studios has the leadership and talent in place to bring the best out of their characters in order to make great films. Warner Brothers thinks "hey let's hire the guys that did Dark Knight (except ya know, the actually important director) and do the same thing with Superman". Or they just make really bad movies like Green Lantern, Catwoman, Batman 3 and 4 or Jonah Hex.

In my lifetime, the only good DC-WB made movies were directed by Tim Burton or Chris Nolan, two legendary filmmakers. Marvel just made a phenomenal movie, that will make tons of cash, with a couple of sitcom directors.

(04-07-2014 08:58 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  First Avenger is another great movie. Watched it on FX last night. It's like a mix of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Iron Man. Wonderful characters, wonderful story, great humor, great set pieces, but maybe only average action. But I tend to gravitate to films that favor story and characters over action. Winter Soldier was pretty much First Avenger with better action.

Action must be purposeful, otherwise it's just Transformers. And hey, I like the Transformers movies. They are a good way to waste 2 hours every 3 years or so. But I leave them feeling underwhelmed, like I do when watching MOS. That action in MOS looked a lot better in a theater than it did on my 50 inch. Good story and character development doesn't need IMAX.

It boils down to this. Marvel Studios has the leadership and talent in place to bring the best out of their characters in order to make great films. Warner Brothers thinks "hey let's hire the guys that did Dark Knight (except ya know, the actually important director) and do the same thing with Superman". Or they just make really bad movies like Green Lantern, Catwoman, Batman 3 and 4 or Jonah Hex.

In my lifetime, the only good DC-WB made were directed by Tim Burton or Chris Nolan, two legendary filmmakers. Marvel just made a phenomenal movie, that will make tons of cash, with a couple of sitcom directors.

I agree with you about Marvel studios.

Time Warner should force WB to create a "DC Studios" and put the person who runs the comics in charge. I think the comics execs have more say-so in the DC animated films than the movies and the quality shows.

Personally I think the Burton Batman movies suck, and I think Watchmen and Constantine were good and V for Vendetta was great. Those are DC movies too.

My biggest criticism with WB has been the lack of willingness to take chances.

You know why you have good Marvel Studios movies? Desperation.

The very existence of Marvel Comics as a company was banked on the success of Iron Man and Incredible Hulk as movies. If they failed, marvel comics probably would have gone bankrupt again. So they had to be high quality.

Warner Bros (and time warner) was and is on sold financial ground. They didn't need DC franchise so desperately. especially considering they had Harry potter, Lord of the rings, and the matrix printing money for ten years. That's why they through millions into a superman franchise before Superman Returns came out in 2006.

Batman has traditionally been the biggest comic book franchise (the avengers may be now) in the movies (Batman, Dark Knight, and DKR were beyond blockbusters) and you'd have to think WB will be very protective of Batman in MoS 2 since they'll have to rely on DC more as their franchises have ended.

Isn't it funny that after throwing everything they had at Man of Steel, WB is back in the Batman business with MOS 2? Doesn't that say a lot about their confidence in their own ability to make good comic book movies?

Meanwhile Marvel is making 2 movies a year, always with great reviews and big money. The next one will star a talking raccoon and a living tree.

(04-07-2014 09:20 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  Isn't it funny that after throwing everything they had at Man of Steel, WB is back in the Batman business with MOS 2? Doesn't that say a lot about their confidence in their own ability to make good comic book movies?

Meanwhile Marvel is making 2 movies a year, always with great reviews and big money. The next one will star a talking raccoon and a living tree.

They are trying to set-up a DC universe and I don't think fans are upset with batman and Wonder Woman in a Superman movie.

They need to just call it World's Finest.

Afterall, Iron Man had a Nick Fury appearance and TIH had a Tony Stark appearance.

Marvel is making two a year, plus Fox and Sony will make a marvel movie each year as well.

Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

(04-07-2014 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

Not really, but I'd recommend watching all the Marvel Studios movies. It has references to several beyond CA1.

But it does a good job of doing flashbacks for the callbacks to CA1.

(04-07-2014 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

You will probably enjoy it more if you've seen the original. CA1 is also a good movie and is being shown on FX this week.

But no, you don't need to see the first to enjoy the second. All of Marvel's movies, including The Avengers, are designed to be enjoyed on their own. They do a wonderful job of quickly and efficiently giving you the backstory you need to understand the plot.

(04-07-2014 10:18 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

You will probably enjoy it more if you've seen the original. CA1 is also a good movie and is being shown on FX this week.

But no, you don't need to see the first to enjoy the second. All of Marvel's movies, including The Avengers, are designed to be enjoyed on their own. They do a wonderful job of quickly and efficiently giving you the backstory you need to understand the plot.

Cool. I'm much more of a DC guy. Never liked the FF/Hulk/Xmen, but did dig Spiderman and CA as a kid.

I grew up watching those god-Awful Superfriends/Justice League but loved every minute of it.

I'll catch the CA on FX this week.

(04-07-2014 10:18 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

You will probably enjoy it more if you've seen the original. CA1 is also a good movie and is being shown on FX this week.

But no, you don't need to see the first to enjoy the second. All of Marvel's movies, including The Avengers, are designed to be enjoyed on their own. They do a wonderful job of quickly and efficiently giving you the backstory you need to understand the plot.

I was a major comic collector until kids came along and I'm somewhat amused by the success of what were, for Marvel, lesser heroes. FF, Spidey, X-Men, those were the biggies. Avengers, yeah, to a point. But Cap? Hulk? Iron Man? No, they were definitely second string.

Was never a DC fan after about age 12 and still am not. I'm even tired of Batman after all the movies. But I do wonder if Marvel might someday make a Conan movie. They could probably do it justice.

(04-07-2014 10:44 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:18 AM)TigerNK Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Do ya need to watch CA1 to get into CAWS?

You will probably enjoy it more if you've seen the original. CA1 is also a good movie and is being shown on FX this week.

But no, you don't need to see the first to enjoy the second. All of Marvel's movies, including The Avengers, are designed to be enjoyed on their own. They do a wonderful job of quickly and efficiently giving you the backstory you need to understand the plot.

I was a major comic collector until kids came along and I'm somewhat amused by the success of what were, for Marvel, lesser heroes. FF, Spidey, X-Men, those were the biggies. Avengers, yeah, to a point. But Cap? Hulk? Iron Man? No, they were definitely second string.

Was never a DC fan after about age 12 and still am not. I'm even tired of Batman after all the movies. But I do wonder if Marvel might someday make a Conan movie. They could probably do it justice.

Marvel doesn't own Conan.

There was a Conan movie a year or two ago that flopped.

I believe there is an Arnold Schwartzeneegar Conan movie in the works.