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I think the refs bet uconn even up!
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(02-15-2014 05:36 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 03:32 PM)CaliTiger Wrote:  Do stats lie?

uConn 39% FGs Memphis 55%
UConn 28 RBs. Memphis 38
UConn 10 AST Memphis 19
Uconn 36 FTA Memphis _9

UConn 6 TOs Memphis 17
UConn 11 Stl Memphis 4


Now, as I said earlier, on some of those 11 steals, I've seen that type of swiping/reaching get whistled. Maybe UConn is very quick with their hands and they were clean steals. I couldn't tell. But, on 7 or 8 of our TOs we simply threw it away. I don't recall them doing that very much if at all.

I'm not saying that the game was called fairly and I can't believe the brother of a former UConn football coach was allowed to ref the game, especially at their home court.

The steals/turnover discrepancy is a direct effect from the no calls on contacts and hacks delivered by the huskies players.
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Interesting perspective from a Husky fan on the Rivals set:



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I thought Nolan played one of his best games of the year. Great offensive board towards the end and great boxing out all game. He even looked fluid out there all around.
 


 

Memphis fans probably are mad about the FT disparity but honestly when their guards drove they beat us so bad we weren't close enough to foul! Still Bazz was aggressive all game which if he does that we don't lose to anyone.
 


 

given how Memphis guarded Bazz in the first half.....ill say it.....this was one of the best games by a UCONN player ever. 
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We were too fast to foul.


Interesting!
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(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke
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(02-15-2014 03:16 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Definitely got hosed today. Very tough one to take, but I am proud of our guys and the way they played. Its sad that the college game has been compromised to the degree it has. Not much you can do about it...we played our hearts out

There's something that can be done about it ... boycott a couple of seasons. It can't just be a few schools though - would have to be relatively widespread but it'll never happen. Those folks in Hartford think they played their guts out and won a tough game. They won one (just look at the book), but they didn't play it.

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(02-15-2014 10:25 PM)mem-x Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke

overcome - succeed in dealing with (a problem or difficulty).
synonyms: get the better of, prevail over, control, get/bring under control, master, conquer, defeat, beat;

i'll say it again. the tigers overcame nothing.
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(02-15-2014 10:19 PM)springcat Wrote:  Interesting perspective from a Husky fan on the Rivals set:



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I thought Nolan played one of his best games of the year. Great offensive board towards the end and great boxing out all game. He even looked fluid out there all around.
 


 

Memphis fans probably are mad about the FT disparity but honestly when their guards drove they beat us so bad we weren't close enough to foul! Still Bazz was aggressive all game which if he does that we don't lose to anyone.
 


 

given how Memphis guarded Bazz in the first half.....ill say it.....this was one of the best games by a UCONN player ever. 
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Now THAT is spin.

UConn's guards had a ton of free throws...because...the Memphis guards were so much faster they could not be fouled- meaning- the UConn guards were slower- and if slower- get this- defenses foul more than they do against quick guards.

Now THAT makes sense.

Because no one tends to reach at quick guards...and no one would call foul when Shaq gets banged at the end of teh game- unless you could slow Napier being given an and one when Geron- well- er- uh- didn't touch him.

an parse those specific plays- but stylistically- that type of foul call no foul call went one the entire $!$!@! game.

A Uconn fan justifying that his team went to the line 36 times to our 9, well, really 30-8 before the intentional fouls were called- by basically opning that it was because our guards were too quick- means he basically recognizes his team received A plus reach arounds today.

Fast guards do not get fouled.

Yep.

Geron- 0 free throws
Dixon- 0 free throws
Joe- 5 free throws

Napier 12 free throws
Boatright 12 free throws

Must be because our guys shot outside shots when not being so quick.

Joe- 17 shots- 1 3 point attempt- 5 FTs
Geron 10 shots- 1 three point attempt
Dixon 7 shots- 5 three point attempts
Shaq- 8 shots no 3s- 2 FTs
Austin 5 shots no 3s- 2 FTs

Napier 21 shots- 12 three attempts- meaning no more than 9 drives- while Joe had non- 3 point shots- some mid range twos but a ton at the rack
Boatright 12 shots- 2 three point attempts- unlike Geron's 0 FTs, he shot 12.
Their forwards took 18 total shots- some threes
Our forwards took 17 total shots- no threes.

Our kids went inside at least as often as they did- and our kids were quick- and our kids were bumped. And their kids spent the game at the line- winning in overtime with 27 additional free throw attempts. Getting a tie with the benefit of 24-6 free throws attempted in regulation.

That based on theh above style of play.

Nothing does not scream that our kids were screwed- more reaches called, thus more turnovers...more free throws for them...a gift win.

Still pissed.
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(02-15-2014 03:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 03:33 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Ref management is an art. I just don't get why Pastner lets it go the whole game. He never got after the refs. He never does. It beat us today.

You have no way of knowing if he had gone after them, that it would have made any difference.

Not to mention, you are wrong. I absolutely saw him go after a ref today, just can't recall which play.

There are a handful of losers that claim to go to the games and claim that Pastner isn't on the refs. I was at the game and he was on them non stop.
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(02-15-2014 10:25 PM)mem-x Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke

Do a search on his posts; it isn't on purpose.
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I feel the worst for our guys. They sweated blood and guts preparing for this game, participating in it, and probably lost a lot of sleep rolling around in their beds like a child anticipating Christmas morning in anticipation of avenging their previous loss.

Why even play the game if it is rigged? It's like trying to beat the house at a casino slot machine when you can't just "play through it" because the game is rigged via improbable probabilities. You know the story of the Grinch Who Stole Christmas never really goes away as we age. We just identify where he exists in different facets of our life as we age. Today his presence was obvious in the refs in our game.

I once served jury duty and thankfully I was brothers with the lawyer of the Plaintiff. Without family involved I wouldn't have known which side to pick. I'm so glad they scrubbed all the initial potential jurors before that trial to eliminate any conflicts of interest that may have existed. Otherwise there might have been a juror who didn't see that obviously the Plaintiff was innocent. Good thing the NCAA does the same thing with the refs before being allowed to officiate to eliminate such conflicts of interest in the NCAA officiating.

We controlled throughout and won by double digits in any half-way sanely officiated game.
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(02-16-2014 05:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 10:25 PM)mem-x Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke

Do a search on his posts; it isn't on purpose.

if correctly understanding the meaning of the word overcome makes me stupid, then by all means call me stupid.
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The same "fans" that complain about Pastner for EVERY tiny thing, real or imagined; can't find it in their hearts to criticize the refs even a little bit.
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(02-16-2014 05:55 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I feel the worst for our guys. They sweated blood and guts preparing for this game, participating in it, and probably lost a lot of sleep rolling around in their beds like a child anticipating Christmas morning in anticipation of avenging their previous loss.

Why even play the game if it is rigged? It's like trying to beat the house at a casino slot machine when you can't just "play through it" because the game is rigged via improbable probabilities. You know the story of the Grinch Who Stole Christmas never really goes away as we age. We just identify where he exists in different facets of our life as we age. Today his presence was obvious in the refs in our game.

I once served jury duty and thankfully I was brothers with the lawyer of the Plaintiff. Without family involved I wouldn't have known which side to pick. I'm so glad they scrubbed all the initial potential jurors before that trial to eliminate any conflicts of interest that may have existed. Otherwise there might have been a juror who didn't see that obviously the Plaintiff was innocent. Good thing the NCAA does the same thing with the refs before being allowed to officiate to eliminate such conflicts of interest in the NCAA officiating.

We controlled throughout and won by double digits in any half-way sanely officiated game.

Exactly. As pissed and disappointed as we fans are, how do our kids feel? This is bunch of BS and I am so freaking tired of it.
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Criticizing the refs is certainly warranted for several key missed calls.

But the 36-9 free throw disparity is also a reflection of our style of play. Lots of transition buckets + focus on perimeter shots = fewer free throw oppts.

However that's still a pretty big disparity not to question getting a few more calls our way.
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(02-15-2014 10:47 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 10:25 PM)mem-x Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke

overcome - succeed in dealing with (a problem or difficulty).
synonyms: get the better of, prevail over, control, get/bring under control, master, conquer, defeat, beat;

i'll say it again. the tigers overcame nothing.

You cannot possibly mean this. You really can't. If you do, then I have misjudged you.
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(02-16-2014 09:49 AM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 05:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 10:25 PM)mem-x Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:56 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

they lost. they overcame nothing.

I don't believe anyone is this stupid naturally - has to be on purpose. 01-wingedeagle03-puke

Do a search on his posts; it isn't on purpose.

if correctly understanding the meaning of the word overcome makes me stupid, then by all means call me stupid.

If you honestly didn't see what happened yesterday, you are stupid!
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Tiger vipor must have lost some money yesterday on the game.

Wow. Overcame NOTHING.
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(02-16-2014 11:26 AM)TigerBryce Wrote:  Criticizing the refs is certainly warranted for several key missed calls.

But the 36-9 free throw disparity is also a reflection of our style of play. Lots of transition buckets + focus on perimeter shots = fewer free throw oppts.

However that's still a pretty big disparity not to question getting a few more calls our way.

The style of play in THIS game- was Memphis going to the rack more than them- settling for less threes and being more aggressive getting rebounds.

Yesterday was a screw job.
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(02-16-2014 11:26 AM)TigerBryce Wrote:  Criticizing the refs is certainly warranted for several key missed calls.

But the 36-9 free throw disparity is also a reflection of our style of play. Lots of transition buckets + focus on perimeter shots = fewer free throw oppts.

However that's still a pretty big disparity not to question getting a few more calls our way.

We took the ball to the rack as much as they did, it seemed. Some we lost on genuine turnovers (Geron had a few that I remember), most we just beat them to the rack. UConn settled for more jump shots than we did. UConn's drives just seemed to result in more whistles than ours.
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