(02-15-2014 02:51 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  toughen up and play through it to seal the win. that's what a great team would have done. kansas had a road game earlier in the year against iowa state. ku shot 19 freethrows to ISU's 34 and still won the game. obviously our 36-9 is much worse than the ku/isu 34-19, but you've got to find a way to win games in those situations. not allowing so many wide open 3s and layups would be a start.

If we get ONLY a 34-19 deficit today, we win.

(02-15-2014 03:03 PM)Mimi Wrote:  We could have a one point lead- the game could end- and the the referee could decide- and admit he thinks the other team deserves an extra few free throws just because.

Then if we lose many would say overcome even more.

Good bait- but in this game- we endured a phucking.

I completely agree. If you push DJ out of bounds while he's jumping to get the ball, it's a foul. Just like the UCF game when the opponent wasn't called for tackling too hard. If not for the refs who have continuously conspired against us, we'd be in line for 2 seed and headed to the Final Four on the heels of Joe Jackson being named national player of the year. Napier is not better than Joe. The refs just wanted everyone else to think that. Heck, if not for the refs, Memphis wouldn't have lost twice to UCONN and would have more national titles than they do.

(02-15-2014 03:10 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 03:03 PM)Mimi Wrote:  We could have a one point lead- the game could end- and the the referee could decide- and admit he thinks the other team deserves an extra few free throws just because.

Then if we lose many would say overcome even more.

Good bait- but in this game- we endured a phucking.

I completely agree. If you push DJ out of bounds while he's jumping to get the ball, it's a foul. Just like the UCF game when the opponent wasn't called for tackling too hard. If not for the refs who have continuously conspired against us, we'd be in line for 2 seed and headed to the Final Four on the heels of Joe Jackson being named national player of the year. Napier is not better than Joe. The refs just wanted everyone else to think that. Heck, if not for the refs, Memphis wouldn't have lost twice to UCONN and would have more national titles than they do.

Over-exaggerating always makes ones point look better.

Definitely got hosed today. Very tough one to take, but I am proud of our guys and the way they played. Its sad that the college game has been compromised to the degree it has. Not much you can do about it...we played our hearts out

(02-15-2014 02:53 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.

We lost today, IMO, mainly because of bad passes, and many of those were forced to be bad because our guys didn't move and give the passer a better, more open look.

We had a couple early that were just miscues, the Pellom-Joe mix up, one where Dixon was driving and Shaq turned to rebound (why expect Dixon to pass up a shot), one that was low and went off Shaq's knee, etc., but then we made a bunch of iffy passes that didn't work.

Also, Shaq held the ball and dribbled too much several times, and UConn could seemingly reach and slap with impunity. Maybe they were just really good with their hands, but you often see such stuff get whistled.

(02-15-2014 03:10 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 03:03 PM)Mimi Wrote:  We could have a one point lead- the game could end- and the the referee could decide- and admit he thinks the other team deserves an extra few free throws just because.

Then if we lose many would say overcome even more.

Good bait- but in this game- we endured a *****.

I completely agree. If you push DJ out of bounds while he's jumping to get the ball, it's a foul. Just like the UCF game when the opponent wasn't called for tackling too hard. If not for the refs who have continuously conspired against us, we'd be in line for 2 seed and headed to the Final Four on the heels of Joe Jackson being named national player of the year. Napier is not better than Joe. The refs just wanted everyone else to think that. Heck, if not for the refs, Memphis wouldn't have lost twice to UCONN and would have more national titles than they do.

No comments or beefs wit the referees in any of our team's first 5 losses.

Today we were home court *****.

I see you disagree- and are bringing out the good old gee guys every time we lose (we- right) we blame it on the refs diarrhea.

Nonsense- but today- yes.

I cannot even imagine the sort of drivel aimed this way coming from the number of posters who I have on ignore.

(02-15-2014 03:19 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  [quote='Mimi' pid='10432921' dateline='1392494031']
Pure crap.

Memphis DID FIND A WAY TO OVERCOME THE PHUCKING.

Went on an 8-0 run- held them scoreless for 5 minutes- overcoming.

Then, for good measure...one more mystery and one phuck job.

There have been games where our kids benefited. Today they were phucked.
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We lost today, IMO, mainly because of bad passes, and many of those were forced to be bad because our guys didn't move and give the passer a better, more open look.

We had a couple early that were just miscues, the Pellom-Joe mix up, one where Dixon was driving and Shaq turned to rebound (why expect Dixon to pass up a shot), one that was low and went off Shaq's knee, etc., but then we made a bunch of iffy passes that didn't work.

Also, Shaq held the ball and dribbled too much several times, and UConn could seemingly reach and slap with impunity. Maybe they were just really good with their hands, but you often see such stuff get whistled.

I agree about Shaq. He doesn't need to dribble the ball IN THE LANE with 3 defenders on him. He needs to pass the ball back out. It's the reason he's not ready for the NBA, to go along with poor free throw shooting. 1 out of 2 every time won't cut in the bigs. He needs two more years.

I agree we made some bad passes, and had other deficiencies, sorta like almost any team in any game. If you want to blame our loss on that, fine, but I think that is unfair today.

I never complain about the refs, b/c you can always complain in a close game, but we definitely got the short end of an unevenly called game today. Doesn't change much. We're still the same. A good team who could make the S16 with a decent draw.

Hosed, plain and simple. Let's take a look at a couple of factors:

1. College BB refs are not paid that much;
2. College BB refs are not employed by any particular league.

Now, for purposes of comparison, think about the last time you saw an NBA game whereby the home team had 28 ft's to the visitor's 6 fts in a game that was TIED at the end of regulation. I KNOW that we are somewhat comparing apples to oranges, but NBA refs are (a) paid over $400k/year (b) are scrutinized by the league office and © may lose their jobs (and I know about the gambling ref) if they continue to show homerism.

College BB refs are usually pretty good, but on occasion are awful and homers. Today was an example. If we would have won, I would have put this as CJP's BEST win of his career since we, in essence, would have beaten a top-25 team on the road despite a ridiculous ft disparity.

I feel good about this team and think we've got a solid chance at a Sweet 16. Guys played pretty darn well today.

Do stats lie?

uConn 39% FGs Memphis 55%
UConn 28 RBs. Memphis 38
UConn 10 AST Memphis 19
Uconn 36 FTA Memphis _9

Ref management is an art. I just don't get why Pastner lets it go the whole game. He never got after the refs. He never does. It beat us today.

(02-15-2014 03:22 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 03:10 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 03:03 PM)Mimi Wrote:  We could have a one point lead- the game could end- and the the referee could decide- and admit he thinks the other team deserves an extra few free throws just because.

Then if we lose many would say overcome even more.

Good bait- but in this game- we endured a phucking.

I completely agree. If you push DJ out of bounds while he's jumping to get the ball, it's a foul. Just like the UCF game when the opponent wasn't called for tackling too hard. If not for the refs who have continuously conspired against us, we'd be in line for 2 seed and headed to the Final Four on the heels of Joe Jackson being named national player of the year. Napier is not better than Joe. The refs just wanted everyone else to think that. Heck, if not for the refs, Memphis wouldn't have lost twice to UCONN and would have more national titles than they do.

No comments or beefs wit the referees in any of our team's first 5 losses.

Today we were home court phucked.

I see you disagree- and are bringing out the good old gee guys every time we lose (we- right) we blame it on the refs diarrhea.

Nonsense- but today- yes.

I cannot even imagine the sort of drivel aimed this way coming from the number of posters who I have on ignore.

As I said in another thread, Memphis also had this same thing happen last year in a home game against L'ville. Also allowed Smart and Napier to have career nights. Coincidence?

It is called "home cooking" in the south. I don't know what they call it up north.

(02-15-2014 03:33 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Ref management is an art. I just don't get why Pastner lets it go the whole game. He never got after the refs. He never does. It beat us today.

I don't know if it would have made a difference but at some point during or after you have to call them bit**es out.

(02-15-2014 02:45 PM)anothertigerfan Wrote:  @GrantMilner: Pastner on free throws: "I'm going to reserve my statements with that because I want to be classy and give UConn credit for the win."

He knows the refs screwed us.


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That is the problem in a nutshell!! If he would just use the "Mike Cronin Mean Mug", he might get the refs to call it more evenly. Most of the time he's smiling and nodding with them. F**K that nice guy isht til the game is over, then be friends. Just Sayin

(02-15-2014 03:33 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Ref management is an art. I just don't get why Pastner lets it go the whole game. He never got after the refs. He never does. It beat us today.

You have no way of knowing if he had gone after them, that it would have made any difference.

Not to mention, you are wrong. I absolutely saw him go after a ref today, just can't recall which play.

I'll just say these things:
- Napier and Boatwright are good enough guards they don't need to shoot 20 FTs between them in a game.
- The obvious unevenness in FT's was laughable; Johnson/Jackson/Dixon called for phantom fouls when balls were stripped clean while numerous over the back calls and hacks UConn committed were simply ignored.
- Give the TIGERS a 36-9 FT disparity in any game on any court against any college team and MEMPHIS wins...OT not necessary.

On to poor Rutgers, who must endure the TIGERS wrath on Thursday.

(02-15-2014 03:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 03:33 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Ref management is an art. I just don't get why Pastner lets it go the whole game. He never got after the refs. He never does. It beat us today.

You have no way of knowing if he had gone after them, that it would have made any difference.

Not to mention, you are wrong. I absolutely saw him go after a ref today, just can't recall which play.

Well if you don't you sure know it's not going to make any difference. I'm glad you can remember once that he said something.

When our guys get beat the first thing they do is hack for the steal.

Should I say more?

(02-15-2014 03:32 PM)CaliTiger Wrote:  Do stats lie?

uConn 39% FGs Memphis 55%
UConn 28 RBs. Memphis 38
UConn 10 AST Memphis 19
Uconn 36 FTA Memphis _9

That is pretty amazing....but the assists go down because no assists on free throw attempts. The rebounds is telling however. Usually if there is a free throw disparity it is because the bigs of one team is dominating the bigs of the other team and that shows up in the rebounding edge. Not today. We outrebounded them and yet we still get hosed by the ft disparity.

It is what it is.