(02-16-2014 05:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  OSU lost to Florida by the exact same margin that UC did. UC has 2 more games with OSU and the contact associated with this was done a long time ago, well before 2006. The game next season at OSU, was originally scheduled for 2012, was moved by OSU from Cincy to OSU because
the contract allowed for OSU to exercise that option. The money aspect was way down on the totem pole. OSU did not want to play UC in Cincinnati again.

Yes, exactly. The same margin, so why would you want to talk smack about it?
Moving the game from Paul Brown to the Shoe will result in more money for Ohio State, even when accounting for the $1million paid to UC for moving it. I'm skeptical that the game at PBS would be that favorable to UC considering the attendance at OSU's spring game there this past year and the attendance disappointment of some of the games UC has played at PBS.

It takes a lot to make the Texas Tech and Houston trolls look smart and well informed. We have reached that level.

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

(02-16-2014 05:36 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

Remember earlier in the thread when you attempted to claim that you had solid critical reasoning skills? You should go delete that.

Also, Lance certainly isn't anti-t0$u

I could take the time to correct the errors in your post, but it is far more amusing to just leave this as is.

IN Ohio

(02-16-2014 05:26 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  OSU lost to Florida by the exact same margin that UC did. UC has 2 more games with OSU and the contact associated with this was done a long time ago, well before 2006. The game next season at OSU, was originally scheduled for 2012, was moved by OSU from Cincy to OSU because
the contract allowed for OSU to exercise that option. The money aspect was way down on the totem pole. OSU did not want to play UC in Cincinnati again.

Yes, exactly. The same margin, so why would you want to talk smack about it?
Moving the game from Paul Brown to the Shoe will result in more money for Ohio State, even when accounting for the $1million paid to UC for moving it. I'm skeptical that the game at PBS would be that favorable to UC considering the attendance at OSU's spring game there this past year and the attendance disappointment of some of the games UC has played at PBS.

How is anything in my post smack? Of course a game in PBS is more advantageous to UC as opposed to OSU's home field. The game in 2002 was a sellout and the game against Oklahoma was at 58,000. You know a game in PBS would be a sellout. The reason you mention attendance is that you are trying to take a dig at UC. OSU has a larger fan base than UC, so what.

(02-16-2014 05:36 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

Someone has never been to Toledo if they think Cincinnati is an anomoly when it comes to people rooting for schools across state lines. The whole "root for the state you live in" argument is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but that's just me.

(02-16-2014 05:40 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:36 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

Remember earlier in the thread when you attempted to claim that you had solid critical reasoning skills? You should go delete that.

Also, Lance certainly isn't anti-t0$u

I could take the time to correct the errors in your post, but it is far more amusing to just leave this as is.

IN Ohio

Cincinnati, not in Ohio. Guess I have to go look at a map again...

Lance hardly ever says anything positive about OSU. Only things he ever said about OSU last football season were quoting people who said that they shouldn't be in the title game even if they went undefeated. Just this week trolled OSU fans about this break-in and writing in the snow.

That fine t0$u education at work again.

Who else knew that radio waves can't cross a river? I guess all those ads I hear on the radio for businesses in Northern Kentucky are a complete waste of money.

And newsflash, Lance is a fan of Lance. He says things to either get a reaction or to hear himself talk.

(02-16-2014 05:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:36 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:22 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  Wait, someone who goes that fine academic institution in Columbus can't figure this out?

Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

Someone has never been to Toledo if they think Cincinnati is an anomoly when it comes to people rooting for schools across state lines. The whole "root for the state you live in" argument is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but that's just me.

Clearly we are the incorrect ones. After all, they are the ones who are a fan of a school that is so highly academically ranked.

(02-16-2014 05:50 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:40 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:36 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:32 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:29 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  Is it obvious? Enlighten me.

Do you know what the Ohio River is? Do you know what state is across said river from Cincinnati? Do you have any clue about Lance's listening audience and social media penetration? Have you ever crossed said river and spent any time in the northern part of that state?

Yes, I realize that Cincinnati is near Kentucky. Cincinnati also happens to be IN Ohio. That would be like people in Minnesota rooting for Canada in the Olympics.
Yes, the fact that Lance is decidedly against OSU certainly has something to do with it.

Remember earlier in the thread when you attempted to claim that you had solid critical reasoning skills? You should go delete that.

Also, Lance certainly isn't anti-t0$u

I could take the time to correct the errors in your post, but it is far more amusing to just leave this as is.

IN Ohio

Cincinnati, not in Ohio. Guess I have to go look at a map again...

Lance hardly ever says anything positive about OSU. Only things he ever said about OSU last football season were quoting people who said that they shouldn't be in the title game even if they went undefeated. Just this week trolled OSU fans about this break-in and writing in the snow.

The point is a large percentage of Lance's listening audience is in Kentucky. Most of them are likely UK fans. Most of the listeners on the Ohio side are probably UC fans... that Ohio State education is failing you my man.

BTW Lance says a ton of positive things about OSU. He raves about Urban Meter and I swear the guy gets a half chub when is talks about Thad Matta. Give it a rest with the whoa is me ohio state fan stuff.

I was playing Ncaa Football 12 today, and when I was recruiting, I noticed the game had Cincinnatis academic prestige rated at "C-" while OSUs was "A+". If the game wasnt going to be discontinued, I would write to the developers.

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It's kind of funny, but O$U's race to selectivity is rather recent. In 2006, their acceptance rate was in the 80s. UC joined the race after O$U, but the reality is UC is where O$U was not that long ago.

This fall's freshman class at UC will have an average ACT score of about 25.7 if applications are an indicator. O$U is currently somewhere between 27 and 28, but again that's a fairly recent phenomena.

(02-16-2014 06:39 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  I was playing Ncaa Football 12 today, and when I was recruiting, I noticed the game had Cincinnatis academic prestige rated at "C-" while OSUs was "A+". If the game wasnt going to be discontinued, I would write to the developers.

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(02-16-2014 05:26 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  Yes, exactly. The same margin, so why would you want to talk smack about it?
Moving the game from Paul Brown to the Shoe will result in more money for Ohio State, even when accounting for the $1million paid to UC for moving it. I'm skeptical that the game at PBS would be that favorable to UC considering the attendance at OSU's spring game there this past year and the attendance disappointment of some of the games UC has played at PBS.

So why schedule the game in Cincy in the first place? Why play Toledo in Cleveland when they could have moved it to OSU and made more money?

I move the mods close this thread. Can I get a second?

I think we should leave it open, its fun watching this o$u clown flounder

(02-16-2014 04:47 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:58 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 10:35 AM)ben-osu Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:55 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:05 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  You guys don't seem to realize that OSU is ranked as a better school than UC for the vast majority of things, and is harder to get into, do you?

When I went to UC - osu was not harder to get into. I was accepted to both and choose UC for a number of reasons.

I do not fault anyone for choosing osu. However, I find the constant negativity towards UC from osu supporters pretty lame. UC has great academics/research and are now coming into their own on the athletic side of things. All of which was mainly accomplished on our own merits, without the help of the state government or majority of the state.

I am from Cincinnati and go to Ohio State and have seen a lot more negativity towards OSU from UC than the other way around. Most OSU fans are largely indifferent towards UC. Personally, I like to see UC do well. My dad went to UC and my girlfriend is a currently a nursing student as well.
I'm confused about your assertion that a public university did not get help from the state government though, could you clarify that?

I've experienced unsolicited negativity from osu fans in bars to boardrooms. I've attended college football games, probably longer than you have been alice, and osu is one of the worst for opposing fans. Merely clapping my hands and cheering for UC invoked a threat that I would receive an a@@ kicking if I ever tried it again. Back in 2009, one of the osu message boards had a season long running thread on UC's season and weekly predictions why UC would lose. The more success UC accomplishes, seems the more hate I see from the institution up north.

I never said UC did not completely receive state funding. UC receives a meager amount. The last I checked, which was a year or two ago, UC was receiving about 20% their budget from the state. The state was looking to decrease this amount. Miami U has faced the same issues. Most of what I am referring to though has been on the research side. osu receives an inordinate amount of research support and funding from the state. UC hashad to earn its top 25/30 ranking based on its own.

Frankly, I am fine with the resistance. MSU faced the same for a long time with Michigan. Makes me wonder if UC was on equal footing where the University could go.

First with the funding point: this link says that state $ was about 12% of OSU's revenue. Unless that has had a dramatic uptick recently, that's less than the 20% you quoted.
I've seen people draw a correlation to MSU a couple times. It doesn't really fit for a couple reasons. MSU is bigger than Michigan, it's centrally located, has a land grant, and is better academically than UC.
I believe that you've been treated poorly by OSU fans (although the "longer than you've been alive" crack doesn't mean much unless you went to that 1931 game). I've been treated poorly by UC fans. Most opposing fan bases are not welcomed in the Shoe, I don't believe that that was specific to you cheering for UC.

Instead of looking up random education reports, try looking up the State's budgetary numbers and funding requests. osu is funded well above the rest of the other state schools. You said as much earlier and now you claim osu receives less.

The correlation to MSU/Mich has nothing to do with school size, being a land grant institution (which MSU initially was not), or academic rankings. Mich tried to impede MSU's progress at every turn. They used the state legislature to curtail MSU in many instances. They did not want to share the state with another institution and recognized early on that MSU was a threat to their in state dominance. You might want to do a little research next time.

I attempted no crack. I've attended games at UC and osu well before you were suckling on your mother's teet. As you said - opposing fan bases are not welcome in Columbus. I've been to other B10 and SEC venues and never witnessed the treatment as I did in Columbus. There is a reason why people all over this country do not like osu fans. You've earned your reputation.

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

You noted earlier you were from Cincinnati so I would assume you would know the answer to this: Kentucky is part of our metro area. Heck, living in an eastern suburb I take 275/471 through Northern Kentucky to get to work downtown. There are nearly 500K residents living right across the river from Cincinnati.

I lived in Columbus for 12 years. I used to explain to people there that you can't look at just the Ohio portion of Cincinnati to factor in the whole community. The perception of state borders does not really apply. It would be like dividing 270 and saying everything south of I-70 is not part of Greater Columbus (only Northern Kentucky is nicer, bigger and more populated than south of I-70).

(02-17-2014 05:43 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:06 PM)ben-osu Wrote:  This is slightly off topic, but related in a way. Lance McAlister did a poll on his blog a few months ago on which was your favorite college team. UC was highest, but Kentucky was above Ohio State. Can anyone explain this? (or direct me to somewhere where this discussion has already taken place?) The two schools are almost equidistant from Cincinnati and are known for obnoxious fans. Maybe because Cincinnati has the Bengals but no basketball team, so the better basketball program wins out?

You noted earlier you were from Cincinnati so I would assume you would know the answer to this: Kentucky is part of our metro area. Heck, living in an eastern suburb I take 275/471 through Northern Kentucky to get to work downtown. There are nearly 500K residents living right across the river from Cincinnati.

I lived in Columbus for 12 years. I used to explain to people there that you can't look at just the Ohio portion of Cincinnati to factor in the whole community. The perception of state borders does not really apply. It would be like dividing 270 and saying everything south of I-70 is not part of Greater Columbus (only Northern Kentucky is nicer, bigger and more populated than south of I-70).

[I am a Lutheran Pastor...]

Many years ago, I interviewed at a church in Northern Kentucky. On the drive from the airport, the interview committee chairperson asked me "I hope you like rooting for UK, because if you become our Pastor, that's the only team you will be allowed to root for." I responded, "Well, I'm not an SEC type of guy, but I do love the University of Cincinnati, so I think I'll fit in OK..."

I didn't get that job.

(And that was literally in Campbell County, just across the river...)