(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

(01-31-2014 09:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we are close to a top 20 job it is because of Pastner and the upgrade to the AAC. Top 10 jobs don't lure Scott Drew, Leonard Hamilton and Tim Floyd as their primary candidates...and get turned down by 2 of them. Top 10 programs don't have to hire a guy like Pastner 5 minutes before he is on his way to Kentucky, without even interviewing him, because nobody else will take the job.

You think UCLA is a good job? They had to get a journeyman coach who made what was at best a lateral move from Iowa to New Mexico just to stay ahead of the posse. Did Arizona get their top choice when they hired Miller? NC State had to hire a retread in Gottfried. Here's a newsflash for you, coaches are staying where they think they have it good. Mark Few, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall are prime examples.

You leave Memphis if Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas and UCLA call. Maybe Ohio State. Not many other places.

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

I agree that UCF could be formidable under the right coach. If they could ever get rid of "dime-a-dozen" Donnie and snatch up a Bruce Pearl or Shaka Smart, their basketball program could rival football.

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

This. I think 2-4 are pretty even. UL has clearly separated themselves on this list.

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

I might throw Houston in there for untapped potential.

UConn maybe perceived as a better job nationally because of 3 national championships, but they only have those because they were lucky enough to hire a hall of fame coach who decided to stay at a program instead of move to larger programs.

You could argue just how good programs like Syracuse or Duke would be if they hadn't hit the jackpot on coaches.

I think that if you just look at salary paid to coaches, facilities, fanbase, and the talent within the city there is not many jobs more attractive than the Memphis job.

(01-31-2014 08:58 PM)Mempho Brendo Wrote:  Yea, back in the 80's the city of Louisville was actually putting out talent. Seems like half their team was from "Louisville-Seneca". The city doesn't have home grown talent anymore for whatever reason. It will be interesting to see how things go when Pitino retires.

This is why:

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

Temple has made 6 straight NCAA Tournaments and just ended our streak of 5 years in a row beating a top 10 team out of conference. All of that with a coach who hates recruiting, cannot recruit to save his life, and has almost an entire coaching staff who similarly cannot recruit worth a damn.

With a brand new practice facility used by all visiting NBA teams, a top notch arena that recently underwent $2M in renovations to upgrade the video board and add video ribbons, if we had $2M a year for a head coach, and some assistants who knew what the term AAU meant, we would be a top 15 team every year.

(01-31-2014 11:57 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we are close to a top 20 job it is because of Pastner and the upgrade to the AAC. Top 10 jobs don't lure Scott Drew, Leonard Hamilton and Tim Floyd as their primary candidates...and get turned down by 2 of them. Top 10 programs don't have to hire a guy like Pastner 5 minutes before he is on his way to Kentucky, without even interviewing him, because nobody else will take the job.

You think UCLA is a good job? They had to get a journeyman coach who made what was at best a lateral move from Iowa to New Mexico just to stay ahead of the posse. Did Arizona get their top choice when they hired Miller? NC State had to hire a retread in Gottfried. Here's a newsflash for you, coaches are staying where they think they have it good. Mark Few, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall are prime examples.

You leave Memphis if Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas and UCLA call. Maybe Ohio State. Not many other places.

What places do you leave for Memphis?

(02-04-2014 04:00 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

Temple has made 6 straight NCAA Tournaments and just ended our streak of 5 years in a row beating a top 10 team out of conference. All of that with a coach who hates recruiting, cannot recruit to save his life, and has almost an entire coaching staff who similarly cannot recruit worth a damn.

With a brand new practice facility used by all visiting NBA teams, a top notch arena that recently underwent $2M in renovations to upgrade the video board and add video ribbons, if we had $2M a year for a head coach, and some assistants who knew what the term AAU meant, we would be a top 15 team every year.

Tell Bill Cosby to pony up some cash!

Bill Cosby is cheap as hell.

(02-04-2014 04:00 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

Temple has made 6 straight NCAA Tournaments and just ended our streak of 5 years in a row beating a top 10 team out of conference. All of that with a coach who hates recruiting, cannot recruit to save his life, and has almost an entire coaching staff who similarly cannot recruit worth a damn.

With a brand new practice facility used by all visiting NBA teams, a top notch arena that recently underwent $2M in renovations to upgrade the video board and add video ribbons, if we had $2M a year for a head coach, and some assistants who knew what the term AAU meant, we would be a top 15 team every year.

You guys haven't signed a 4 or 5 star recruit in 14 years.

Top 5 JOBS:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) Cincy
4) UConn
5) SMU

Top 5 programs:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) UConn
4) Cincy
5) Temple

(02-04-2014 04:22 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Top 5 JOBS:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) Cincy
4) UConn
5) SMU

Top 5 programs:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) UConn
4) Cincy
5) Temple

UCF could creep up on Cincy and UConn and I think is still ahead of SMU and has probably moved ahead of Temple. Their facilities are really nice, and Florida is a fun place to live.

(02-04-2014 04:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 04:22 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Top 5 JOBS:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) Cincy
4) UConn
5) SMU

Top 5 programs:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) UConn
4) Cincy
5) Temple

UCF could creep up on Cincy and UConn and I think is still ahead of SMU and has probably moved ahead of Temple. Their facilities are really nice, and Florida is a fun place to live.

I think SMU, in the AAC, with the recruiting base in Dallas and the boosters who are obviously willing to "pony" up money to draw Larry Brown out of retirement, is showing better potential than UCF. Not to say that UCF can't be a good job, but SMU has more money and a better recruiting base.

(02-04-2014 04:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 04:00 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:50 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:45 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  1.) Louisville
2.) Memphis
3.) UCONN
4.) Cinci
5.) Temple

Bingo. I couldn't believe he had UCF ranked ahead of the Owls

I like UCF and think they have great potential, but Temple is a top 30 basketball program, which shows just how strong this league is going to be.

Yes, but "job" is different than program. Temple is a good program, but I think UCF is as "on the rise" as any school in the country. I think we the right coach UCF could be nasty in basketball.

Temple has made 6 straight NCAA Tournaments and just ended our streak of 5 years in a row beating a top 10 team out of conference. All of that with a coach who hates recruiting, cannot recruit to save his life, and has almost an entire coaching staff who similarly cannot recruit worth a damn.

With a brand new practice facility used by all visiting NBA teams, a top notch arena that recently underwent $2M in renovations to upgrade the video board and add video ribbons, if we had $2M a year for a head coach, and some assistants who knew what the term AAU meant, we would be a top 15 team every year.

You guys haven't signed a 4 or 5 star recruit in 14 years.

We have one coming in next year, but yeah, like I said, recruiting is an issue.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basket...nechionyia

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8...id=6128270

(02-04-2014 04:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 04:22 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Top 5 JOBS:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) Cincy
4) UConn
5) SMU

Top 5 programs:

1) Louisville
2) Memphis
3) UConn
4) Cincy
5) Temple

UCF could creep up on Cincy and UConn and I think is still ahead of SMU and has probably moved ahead of Temple. Their facilities are really nice, and Florida is a fun place to live.

UCF's practice facility opened in 2008
Temple's practice facility opened in 2012

Take a look at how much they differ. Temple's practice facility utilizes a state-of-the-art weight free system, that uses air rather than physical weights. It is something very few schools have.

Their arena is 10 years newer than ours, but does not have the $2M video boards and ribbons that ours has. I think you'd find that our arena is as nice, if not nicer, despite being 10 years older.