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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 03:21 PM)Cougar King Wrote: Middle Tennessee State University is the worst directional name school I have ever heard.
Its because the middle of the state is on their campus.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 01:51 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: (12-31-2013 10:04 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-31-2013 01:18 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: (12-31-2013 12:46 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-31-2013 12:41 AM)BrassoBill Wrote: It wasn't just the actions of one guy. As for what's typical, I can't comment on the things you want everyone to believe you saw.
Whatever then. I'm firmly on the record what our guy did was deplorable. Sorry I asked and tried to have a civil discussion. Congrats on getting away with all the **** you did today. But that does answer my question. I guess that is indeed the Navy way. I won't be going back to your stadium anytime soon.
Interesting that you make the case that MTSU is not to blame for the actions of one player, yet turn around and blame the entire Navy program because one poster here disagrees with your assessment? Odd don't you think?
You can't have it both ways.
Personally, I'd have loved to see a big ugly on the Navy team take that a$$hole apart for the eye gouge crap. MTSU recruited a thug in that kid, and should be ashamed, and correct it.
How is that odd when we have one player do something wrong, but you guys have a clearly an ideology and philosophy as a team to chip late after the whistle is blown? I don't know what happened with Rod. He's never done anything like that before. I'm not sure how this person http://www.wsmv.com/story/23824084/mtsu-...-road-rage can be the same one who did what he did to Keenan. I hope he issues an apology to the Navy football program and Keenan in particular.
But no it's not odd and I'm not having it both ways. We had two kids do really stupid things. What you guys did was occurring throughout the entire game. I guess part of your team's M.O. While I lost the respect that I had gained for how Blunt has carried himself during his five years at MT, I lost respect for the entire Navy program yesterday. And this isn't sour grapes. I didn't expect to win because traditionally we don't play the triple option well. I expected a good tough football game, and we got something very different. Navy is not without fault here. From the opening kick your players were talking sh1t and showing little class. I was very surprised. Not what I expected from a service academy.
It's not my place to apologize for what Blunt did, but if it were I would do it. Hopefully, he does the right thing and issues a sincere apology before the end of the day.
I appreciate your effort to discredit my opinion by saying I'm a Navy fan. I served in the Navy, but I don't routinely follow the program. So, I have no dog in that fight. I'm also not "anti-MTSU". I do however, as a Navy vet, know what those midshipmen have set in front of them, from a Navy career standpoint. I won't abide some punk kid deciding it's ok to try and permanently injury someone who has committed to serve this country, because of his dislike for how the game is going.
Do some research and you'll see that I was a big proponent of MTSU to CUSA. I think it's a great fit. So, this isn't an MTSU witch hunt. What it is, is an opinion on what I saw yesterday. It was disgraceful. As a fan of MTSU, you should be more upset than any of us, because that punk's behavior reflected badly on your University. The fact that you're not might say more about you, and your school, than you understand.
I've used words like deplorable, stupid, etc. to describe what he did. What more do you want me to do? Are you even reading what I saying.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
I also said that Blunt should apologize immediately. Not sure what you want me to say. Further what these guys do after their academy time is up has absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the game yesterday. I still do and will respect what the USNA represents, but not for the football program.
I saw many Navy players doing dirty things. It just didn't get pimped out by ESPN. Unfortunately for us our one guy doing something really stupid apparently trumps all the other things Navy did. I found out today a Navy kid punched one of our guys undercut style in chin under his face mask in the first half before things got out of hand, and he had to leave the game for a while. They were also hitting our guys in the nuts in the bottom of the pile. That's in addition to all the other stuff I mentioned last night that I actually saw for myself. Not what I would have expected from Navy.
I don't in any way condone what Blunt did, but some your guys definitely had something coming to them for the way they were playing in the first half. We may have taken the black eye, because of Blunt but I know the truth on everything else that was going on. Class act stuff going on there. I really hate it too. As a Annapolitan I won't ever be able view things the same again about Navy football.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
As I said, I can't apologize on their behalf. Only they can do that. Those associated with this incident contacted Navy today among others to apologize. They released this statement after reaching out to apologize...
RESPONSES FROM MIDDLE TENNESSEE HEAD COACH RICK STOCKSTILL AND LINEBACKER RODERIC BLUNT ON INCIDENTS DURING MONDAY’S ARMED FORCES BOWL VS NAVY
HEAD COACH RICK STOCKSTILL
“After seeing the replay of the game, I saw things that I was unable to see live from the sideline. I have called Navy Head Coach Ken Niumatalolo, quarterback Keenan Reynolds, and Brant Ringler, the executive director of the Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, and apologized for Roderic Blunt’s actions.
“I have strived to run a first-class program and I do not condone this type of play. We have shown a history of good sportsmanship and, this season, we ranked as the ninth-least penalized team in the country. We were called for just one defensive personal foul penalty prior to the bowl game.
“I understand the game of football and what goes on out on the field, but there is no place for that type of behavior. It was a very emotional game for both sides, played with a lot of passion and sometimes players get caught up in that emotion. However, the bottom line is we hold ourselves to high standards and we expect our players to be good representatives of our university.
“Roderic knows the consequences of his actions. As head coach, I will take steps to ensure our team understands the importance of proper behavior and the conduct we expect as Blue Raiders.”
COMMENT FROM LINEBACKER RODERIC BLUNT
“I would like to apologize to my team, coaching staff, Navy, and most importantly, Keenan Reynolds for my actions Monday. I accept responsibility and the consequences of my actions. It was my last college game and emotions were at an all-time high. But there is still no excuse for my actions and know this is not a reflection of Blue Raider football.”
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
The MUTS are invading, I see...
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 04:44 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: I also said that Blunt should apologize immediately. Not sure what you want me to say. Further what these guys do after their academy time is up has absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the game yesterday. I still do and will respect what the USNA represents, but not for the football program.
I saw many Navy players doing dirty things. It just didn't get pimped out by ESPN. Unfortunately for us our one guy doing something really stupid apparently trumps all the other things Navy did. I found out today a Navy kid punched one of our guys undercut style in chin under his face mask in the first half before things got out of hand, and he had to leave the game for a while. They were also hitting our guys in the nuts in the bottom of the pile. That's in addition to all the other stuff I mentioned last night that I actually saw for myself. Not what I would have expected from Navy.
I don't in any way condone what Blunt did, but some your guys definitely had something coming to them for the way they were playing in the first half. We may have taken the black eye, because of Blunt but I know the truth on everything else that was going on. Class act stuff going on there. I really hate it too. As a Annapolitan I won't ever be able view things the same again about Navy football.
hahaha
Whatever you say, man.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 05:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: The MUTS are invading, I see...
It's not like they'll be getting an AAC invite so meh.
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12-31-2013 05:26 PM |
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 04:44 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: I also said that Blunt should apologize immediately. Not sure what you want me to say. Further what these guys do after their academy time is up has absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the game yesterday. I still do and will respect what the USNA represents, but not for the football program.
I saw many Navy players doing dirty things. It just didn't get pimped out by ESPN. Unfortunately for us our one guy doing something really stupid apparently trumps all the other things Navy did. I found out today a Navy kid punched one of our guys undercut style in chin under his face mask in the first half before things got out of hand, and he had to leave the game for a while. They were also hitting our guys in the nuts in the bottom of the pile. That's in addition to all the other stuff I mentioned last night that I actually saw for myself. Not what I would have expected from Navy.
I don't in any way condone what Blunt did, but some your guys definitely had something coming to them for the way they were playing in the first half. We may have taken the black eye, because of Blunt but I know the truth on everything else that was going on. Class act stuff going on there. I really hate it too. As a Annapolitan I won't ever be able view things the same again about Navy football.
Blunt has apologized & so has his Coach.
They didn't make excuses or blame the opponent.
Well Done.
http://www.goblueraiders.com/content.cfm/id/72713
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 05:59 PM)old salt Wrote: (12-31-2013 04:44 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: I also said that Blunt should apologize immediately. Not sure what you want me to say. Further what these guys do after their academy time is up has absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the game yesterday. I still do and will respect what the USNA represents, but not for the football program.
I saw many Navy players doing dirty things. It just didn't get pimped out by ESPN. Unfortunately for us our one guy doing something really stupid apparently trumps all the other things Navy did. I found out today a Navy kid punched one of our guys undercut style in chin under his face mask in the first half before things got out of hand, and he had to leave the game for a while. They were also hitting our guys in the nuts in the bottom of the pile. That's in addition to all the other stuff I mentioned last night that I actually saw for myself. Not what I would have expected from Navy.
I don't in any way condone what Blunt did, but some your guys definitely had something coming to them for the way they were playing in the first half. We may have taken the black eye, because of Blunt but I know the truth on everything else that was going on. Class act stuff going on there. I really hate it too. As a Annapolitan I won't ever be able view things the same again about Navy football.
Blunt has apologized & so has his Coach.
They didn't make excuses or blame the opponent.
Well Done.
http://www.goblueraiders.com/content.cfm/id/72713
More than you can say for the MTSU fanbase that posts on here. Own it.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
navy rejects apology, airstrike at 0800
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 05:59 PM)old salt Wrote: (12-31-2013 04:44 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: I also said that Blunt should apologize immediately. Not sure what you want me to say. Further what these guys do after their academy time is up has absolutely nothing to do with what happened during the game yesterday. I still do and will respect what the USNA represents, but not for the football program.
I saw many Navy players doing dirty things. It just didn't get pimped out by ESPN. Unfortunately for us our one guy doing something really stupid apparently trumps all the other things Navy did. I found out today a Navy kid punched one of our guys undercut style in chin under his face mask in the first half before things got out of hand, and he had to leave the game for a while. They were also hitting our guys in the nuts in the bottom of the pile. That's in addition to all the other stuff I mentioned last night that I actually saw for myself. Not what I would have expected from Navy.
I don't in any way condone what Blunt did, but some your guys definitely had something coming to them for the way they were playing in the first half. We may have taken the black eye, because of Blunt but I know the truth on everything else that was going on. Class act stuff going on there. I really hate it too. As a Annapolitan I won't ever be able view things the same again about Navy football.
Blunt has apologized & so has his Coach.
They didn't make excuses or blame the opponent.
Well Done.
http://www.goblueraiders.com/content.cfm/id/72713
What I saw that guy do was an anomaly and not representative of MTSU in my opinion. We've played MTSU several times and while there's no love between Blue Raider and Tiger fans, I'd never seen that kind of play from MTSU. One guy either just got over-hyped or had an agenda, etc; but that wasn't the norm for MTSU that I've seen.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 09:11 PM)oldtiger Wrote: What I saw that guy do in an anomaly and not representative of MTSU in my opinion. We've played MTSU several times and while there's no love between Blue Raider and Tiger fans, I'd never seen that kind of play from MTSU. One guy either just got over-hyped or had an agenda, etc; but that wasn't the norm for MTSU that I've seen.
We can't see all that goes on from the stands with the naked eye, especially in piles of players, where Blunt specializes in his dirty tactics. The TV close-ups clearly showed the sort of ruthless villain that he is. I personally doubt the sincerity of his apology.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 04:05 PM)tnzazz Wrote: (12-31-2013 03:21 PM)Cougar King Wrote: Middle Tennessee State University is the worst directional name school I have ever heard.
Its because the middle of the state is on their campus.
Cougar King is incorrect. The worst directional name is South Carolina Upstate. For Upstate, what do you do? Call your team Northern South Carolina? Northern Carolina?
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-30-2013 02:20 PM)1IvyDog Wrote: (12-30-2013 01:53 PM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote: [/i]
Interesting bowl matchup.
MT has no class. All the eye gouging, late hits, hits to the head. Blount and their coach are Piece's of ****!!!!!!!!!
Middle Tennessee embarrassed themselves and CUSA with their prison team thuggery.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(01-01-2014 03:14 PM)knightmite Wrote: (12-30-2013 02:20 PM)1IvyDog Wrote: (12-30-2013 01:53 PM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote: [/i]
Interesting bowl matchup.
MT has no class. All the eye gouging, late hits, hits to the head. Blount and their coach are Piece's of ****!!!!!!!!!
Middle Tennessee embarrassed themselves and CUSA with their prison team thuggery.
I hope you are not being serious. All of these comments and I cannot believe people are saying them. You have to think what that kind of bull crap means to the kids. You never know, they could be reading the forums here now.
Don't call the team "prison team" and "thuggery" when one player acts out. That's like calling the Troy Trojans a bunch of murderers who should burn in hell because one of their players - a bad apple - shot and killed someone. It is not logical, and it's offensive, quite frankly.
What's embarrassing to me is how a lot of these people on pointless internet forums act and what kind of mindless bull **** they write.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(01-01-2014 10:08 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (01-01-2014 03:14 PM)knightmite Wrote: (12-30-2013 02:20 PM)1IvyDog Wrote: (12-30-2013 01:53 PM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote: [/i]
Interesting bowl matchup.
MT has no class. All the eye gouging, late hits, hits to the head. Blount and their coach are Piece's of ****!!!!!!!!!
Middle Tennessee embarrassed themselves and CUSA with their prison team thuggery.
I hope you are not being serious. All of these comments and I cannot believe people are saying them. You have to think what that kind of bull crap means to the kids. You never know, they could be reading the forums here now.
Don't call the team "prison team" and "thuggery" when one player acts out. That's like calling the Troy Trojans a bunch of murderers who should burn in hell because one of their players - a bad apple - shot and killed someone. It is not logical, and it's offensive, quite frankly.
What's embarrassing to me is how a lot of these people on pointless internet forums act and what kind of mindless bull **** they write.
Your indignation seems a bit self-served. I'm not buying your brand.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-30-2013 11:29 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-30-2013 10:51 PM)DxOCD Wrote: I thought they played ECU dirty, but I have purple shades on
Lost in all that because of how deplorable his actions were was how dirty Navy was playing (a lot of late hits or perhaps we should say extended blocks by their offensive players on our defensive players) that never got called. I wonder if that led to what happened? Not sure. I was really surprised at how frequent Navy was cutting knees after the whistle. No one mentioned that though. You all are going to have to deal with soon if that's how Navy plays.
Thanks to a time shifting DVR & espn classic, I was just able to rewatch the classic 1973 Sugar Bowl between undefeated ND & Bama.
SI described the offenses this way --
...both Alabama, with its wishbone attack, and Notre Dame, with its multiplicity of sets and men-in-motion wing T stratagems, are four-back offenses. The halfbacks and the fullbacks run and catch and sometimes throw. Even the quarterbacks run.
Catch this game next time ESPNCL airs it, or here's some excerpts on youtube.
Observe the blocking levels & styles. Note how many linemen from both teams are on the ground at the whistle. Hopefully AAC fans will appreciate the difference between legal cut blocks & illegal chop blocks. AAC officials already do. They officiated Navy's road games this season, in which Navy was the least penalized team in FBS.
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RE: Navy vs MTSU Armed Forces bowl thread
(12-31-2013 03:21 PM)Cougar King Wrote: Middle Tennessee State University is the worst directional name school I have ever heard.
#snicker
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