Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

Play calling the last 2 games was atrocious and whatever halftime adjustments that were made did not work. IMO for that the OC has to go. You would think that a top flight O coordinator of an AQ program would love to come to DeKalb for a HC opportunity. Carey is an Oline coach.

The Palmers, Herbstreits & Pollacks on ESPN are just network entertainers & their words should not be taken seriously. Who cares what they think? They are just prima donnas who never took the time to get to know & understand NIU & its football team. It's easier for folks like that to criticize instead.

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

(12-27-2013 02:54 AM)Policiious Wrote:  Play calling the last 2 games was atrocious and whatever halftime adjustments that were made did not work. IMO for that the OC has to go. You would think that a top flight O coordinator of an AQ program would love to come to DeKalb for a HC opportunity. Carey is an Oline coach.

Didnt Rambling Rod make some comment at halftime how no adjustments were necessary? Ha.

This will be a huge off season. We better dig deep and figure out if we really have what it takes to be elite. We had our opportunities last year and this year and we blew it -- badly. Many was from a coaching aspect. We better do a lot of self scouting offensively and defensively and learn a lot from our disastrous finish.

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

+1

I do not know why we didn't use the Parker Executive Search as we had successfully used in the past. Apparently the lame duck AD and Pres took the easy way out. Make Carey OB coach (as we did with Tuke) then run a search for the permanent head coach. I guess only time will tell.

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to agree for the most part although it depends on a person's perspective. Are we headed to mediocrity or have we never really been more than that? Beating lousy MAC teams makes our record look good but we like to compare ourselves to AQ teams and we are average at best in that light. I, for one, do not get joy out of just being a top MAC team. I would hope we can accomplish more than that.

The worst thing would be to see the recognition and respect we have gained the last few years slip away and we return to obscurity.

it happens periodically to most all programs, especially mid majors: consider ups and downs of Boise, Marshall, South Florida, Toledo, CMU and even occasionally the big boyz who can rebound faster like ND, West Virginia, Ole Miss, etc

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

The only moxy Carey showed was being a prick to Cara Capuano at the end of the 2Q

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

Late-Season Collapse Proves Heisman Finalist Jordan Lynch Was Overrated - http://pulse.me/s/IxaCJ




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Quote:For a second straight season, the Huskies were upended in a bowl game and just like 2012 — this one was no contest.

Did he even watch the game? What a moron!

(12-27-2013 01:36 PM)JCCNIU31 Wrote:  Late-Season Collapse Proves Heisman Finalist Jordan Lynch Was Overrated - http://pulse.me/s/IxaCJ

(12-27-2013 01:36 PM)JCCNIU31 Wrote:  Late-Season Collapse Proves Heisman Finalist Jordan Lynch Was Overrated - http://pulse.me/s/IxaCJ

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Quote:For a second straight season, the Huskies were upended in a bowl game and just like 2012 — this one was no contest

Seriously??? No contest? I get that we didn't win, but had Simms made those two field goals, and we went for two on the last touchdown, it would have been a tie game... Seriously fvck them.

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

I love fair weather fans..We aren't Alabama, any SEC, or top tier Big 10 team, or even Boise St(though we are similar to the 2002 squad in terms of growth possibilities from here).. We are a second tier school that must win with 2* and 3* players and have a good strategy and hope to get to the mountain top like Boise did and TCU(though they have been exposed a little when playing against top tier teams every week).

You sound exactly like the moron who sat in front of me during the MAC championship game:
Part I: Yelled at everyone one in the stands that we weren't cheering loud enough and that's why we were losing the game.
Part II: Starts blaming players for having no talent, no effort and sucking
Part III: Calls NIU a fraud, experts we right, don't deserve to be here(MAC championship)..

These games were lost based on strategy not anything else.. Both teams came in and followed FSU plan to a T, contain Jordan Lynch, make someone else beat us...

It works for multiple reasons:
1. Lynch can't make a pass with people in his face
2. Coaches continue to ride the horse that brought them this far(Lynch) and rightfully so and neglect all other options.
3. Defense is porous(though played well yesterday).

I think the play calling has to get better..and it will next year because they won't have one of the greatest MAC player ever to rely on and bail us out.

Defensive scheme has to get better..

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

+1 regrettably

(12-27-2013 02:20 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 02:50 AM)niufb83 Wrote:  Well, I have sat on it for two hours. The harsh reality is that all of the ESPN and other analysts were absolutely correct. We had no business in the BCS conversation. None! We are not a bad football team, but certainly not a great one either. We were out coached the last two games, badly. I have spoken to former teammates tonight and honestly, we are as disappointed in tonight as any loss in years.

I said it on the day they hired Carey , that this was a knee jerk reaction move an the guy just doesn't fit the mold for me to be the head coach of an elite program. He just doesn't. It showed tonight. No swagger, no moxy, none of the things that we need to survive as a mid major power. We are/were truly a one trick pony.

You guys can bash me all you want on this board, but we are headed toward mediocrity the next few years. Hate me, but it's true. If we are what we want to be, we beat this Utah State team with their 3rd string QB by 3 scores. Period. Tonight, more than any night, proved the Palmer's, and the Herbstreit's absolutely correct. very few coaches would have done any worse with the team they were left after Kill.

I hate to be this way, but I feel like we are headed in the wrong direction after tonight. Tonight was a bad product. Period, and extremely disappointing.

I truly appreciate all of the players and will always be a fan. A huge fan as a former player. But that doesn't mean I need to be happy . I will always love our school and be a huge , huge fan. Very proud to be an alum. Just disappointed int eh way things ended this year, and where I think we are going.

I love fair weather fans..We aren't Alabama, any SEC, or top tier Big 10 team, or even Boise St(though we are similar to the 2002 squad in terms of growth possibilities from here).. We are a second tier school that must win with 2* and 3* players and have a good strategy and hope to get to the mountain top like Boise did and TCU(though they have been exposed a little when playing against top tier teams every week).

You sound exactly like the moron who sat in front of me during the MAC championship game:
Part I: Yelled at everyone one in the stands that we weren't cheering loud enough and that's why we were losing the game.
Part II: Starts blaming players for having no talent, no effort and sucking
Part III: Calls NIU a fraud, experts we right, don't deserve to be here(MAC championship)..

These games were lost based on strategy not anything else.. Both teams came in and followed FSU plan to a T, contain Jordan Lynch, make someone else beat us...

It works for multiple reasons:
1. Lynch can't make a pass with people in his face
2. Coaches continue to ride the horse that brought them this far(Lynch) and rightfully so and neglect all other options.
3. Defense is porous(though played well yesterday).

I think the play calling has to get better..and it will next year because they won't have one of the greatest MAC player ever to rely on and bail us out.

Defensive scheme has to get better..

FYI-

I- Would never yell at anyone during a game, or blame a loss on something that stupid , or even have that irrational of a thought.

II- Love the kids and think they absolutely play their hearts out for our University

III- Think NIU is a first class operation and always will be.

You basically call me a moron, and then highlight my exact thoughts about strategy and scheme at the end. You too are challenging the coaching. What are you attacking me for. I love NIU. I am proud of the staff that they accomplished what they did. Does that mean I can't think that Carey may not be the long term solution to keep us at the top? I don't get it. I support our program as much as anyone. I guess maybe I should just keep some honest thoughts (that most know are true) to myself or I will be called a moron by guys like you who go on to rant about the staff and their coaching as well... Wow.

Cartershaw...you wrote the following:

You sound exactly like the moron who sat in front of me during the MAC championship game:
Part I: Yelled at everyone one in the stands that we weren't cheering loud enough and that's why we were losing the game.
Part II: Starts blaming players for having no talent, no effort and sucking
Part III: Calls NIU a fraud, experts we right, don't deserve to be here(MAC championship)..

This can't be coming from the same guy...go back to the NIU Purdue game thread and read some of the comments...your posts are exactly like those you are calling out in the above statement.

Yeah I totally disagree with this, and I think you haven't been following the season closely because the majority of the "experts" we wrong the entire season. None of them had us beating Iowa or Purdue and when we entered the macc herbstriet jumped on our wagon and said we deserved it, along with many of the college football hosts on espnu, aside from Palmer who is the leader of the douches and doesn't have a clue. And also we were favorites in our last two games so sounds to me they didn't have it right. As far as rod Carey goes I agree he doesn't seem to have the swag needed at a big time program which I think the huskies are going to be, although this doesn't mean you can fire your coach for leading you to an undefeated regular season confrence championship birth and near bcs bowl. I also don't agree with us not deserving to be there if we won out, being undefeated is a lot harder than many of us thought and we all found out the hard way. In the end the huskies will be fine, programs like this don't just get good overnight nor to they get bad overnight, the football program has been building this team for success for years and I don't know why many people think it's going to stop because we lost two in a row.

I never thought we were good enough this year for the BCS, we had too many close games against mediocre teams. Last year we had a similar offense but a better defense. So to that extent the "experts" were right this year. But like someone else pointed out, they're wrong much of the time too.

(12-30-2013 09:43 AM)Rja123 Wrote:  Yeah I totally disagree with this, and I think you haven't been following the season closely because the majority of the "experts" we wrong the entire season. None of them had us beating Iowa or Purdue and when we entered the macc herbstriet jumped on our wagon and said we deserved it, along with many of the college football hosts on espnu, aside from Palmer who is the leader of the douches and doesn't have a clue. And also we were favorites in our last two games so sounds to me they didn't have it right. As far as rod Carey goes I agree he doesn't seem to have the swag needed at a big time program which I think the huskies are going to be, although this doesn't mean you can fire your coach for leading you to an undefeated regular season confrence championship birth and near bcs bowl. I also don't agree with us not deserving to be there if we won out, being undefeated is a lot harder than many of us thought and we all found out the hard way. In the end the huskies will be fine, programs like this don't just get good overnight nor to they get bad overnight, the football program has been building this team for success for years and I don't know why many people think it's going to stop because we lost two in a row.

I use the term experts loosely and all I am saying is they may say what they want on camera god or bad, but many throughout the country did not think we deserved to be in a BCS game 4 weeks ago and they were probably correct. Our defense would have been exposed by several teams in the country. including the two in the Fiesta Bowl.

Second, I would never call for Carey to be fired. I thought it was a below average hire, but that was just my opinion. I also believe anyone they promoted from within would have had the same success we had this season. You can't fire anyone after winning 12 games. That would be an injustice. He certainly deserves a chance to prove himself. Next year will be a big year. I am not high on Carey , and haven't been from the day he was hired. I am proud of the way the boys held it together and he is the guy in charge so kudos to him, and I hope he proves me wrong the next few years. I think he is a great O-Line coach and quality OC.