It really is time we let this part of out past go so we can focus on making the future the best it can be.

How about something along the lines of, "How's the 8th layer treating you, Sun (of the) Devil?"

I will say it is still mind boggling that he signed a contract extension one day, only to pretty much leave the next. Wikipedia probably won't forget...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Graham#Rice

Job Hopping Toad-There is another word other than Todd or Toad that starts with a T and ends with a D that can not posted on the Parliament.

(12-01-2013 09:59 PM)seniorowl Wrote:  General Statement referring to him jumping ship from school to school....and I hate the multiple wrist sweatbands and pop artist microphone that he wears.

T--D?

Someone in the past stated that it was good that we had him for a year to get the below items done and it was also good that he was gone after that year because of his lack of integrity. The Rice Tulsa move was a lateral move for more money, but the moves from Tulsa to Pitt and Pitt to Arizona State were promotions to get to team in a better conference.

(12-02-2013 06:11 PM)2timesanowl Wrote:  OK what things can you be thankful for about the one year Graham was here? Let's count:
1. renewed interest in program from his first day
2. millions raised, Rice Stadium renovated and that gawd-awful turf gone
3. first bowl season in 40 how many years?
4. gave the program a taste of what it meant to win, left that desire in the guys that stayed
5. in short, in one year, he turned this football program around. if not for him--even for a short time--then we might not be what we are today. That change of attitude started and was sparked by him.

There was more things that went into his move from Pittsburgh to Arizona State than you realize. I got to know them when they were here. I know that that decision was not easy for him and he knew he was going to get criticized for it.

Things are not always what they appear. I will leave it at that, albeit it highly unpopular on this board no doubt.

(12-03-2013 01:53 AM)75src Wrote:  Someone in the past stated that it was good that we had him for a year to get the below items done and it was also good that he was gone after that year because of his lack of integrity. The Rice Tulsa move was a lateral move for more money, but the moves from Tulsa to Pitt and Pitt to Arizona State were promotions to get to team in a better conference.

(12-02-2013 06:11 PM)2timesanowl Wrote:  OK what things can you be thankful for about the one year Graham was here? Let's count:
1. renewed interest in program from his first day
2. millions raised, Rice Stadium renovated and that gawd-awful turf gone
3. first bowl season in 40 how many years?
4. gave the program a taste of what it meant to win, left that desire in the guys that stayed
5. in short, in one year, he turned this football program around. if not for him--even for a short time--then we might not be what we are today. That change of attitude started and was sparked by him.

There was more things that went into his move from Pittsburgh to Arizona State than you realize. I got to know them when they were here. I know that that decision was not easy for him and he knew he was going to get criticized for it.

Things are not always what they appear. I will leave it at that, albeit it highly unpopular on this board no doubt.

75 - couldn't agree more.
It was... our 'deal with the sun devil' so to speak. We gained a lot from it and him. The only cost now is the cost we still choose to assign to it by still dwelling on it. We got a taste of what can be. Now let's make it be and forget him. Except if we ever play him, at which time victory will be all the sweeter. Let's let it go and never post about him again.

Now that we will be going to a championship gap and a bowl, we should go even further to improve Rice football. I grew up watching Jess Neely teams so that is a goal we can strive for. If we did all those things Todd wanted, then maybe we can improve things for Baliff and go forward.

(12-03-2013 01:58 AM)NYNightOwl Wrote:  

(12-03-2013 01:53 AM)75src Wrote:  Someone in the past stated that it was good that we had him for a year to get the below items done and it was also good that he was gone after that year because of his lack of integrity. The Rice Tulsa move was a lateral move for more money, but the moves from Tulsa to Pitt and Pitt to Arizona State were promotions to get to team in a better conference.

(12-02-2013 06:11 PM)2timesanowl Wrote:  OK what things can you be thankful for about the one year Graham was here? Let's count:
1. renewed interest in program from his first day
2. millions raised, Rice Stadium renovated and that gawd-awful turf gone
3. first bowl season in 40 how many years?
4. gave the program a taste of what it meant to win, left that desire in the guys that stayed
5. in short, in one year, he turned this football program around. if not for him--even for a short time--then we might not be what we are today. That change of attitude started and was sparked by him.

There was more things that went into his move from Pittsburgh to Arizona State than you realize. I got to know them when they were here. I know that that decision was not easy for him and he knew he was going to get criticized for it.

Things are not always what they appear. I will leave it at that, albeit it highly unpopular on this board no doubt.

75 - couldn't agree more.
It was... our 'deal with the sun devil' so to speak. We gained a lot from it and him. The only cost now is the cost we still choose to assign to it by still dwelling on it. We got a taste of what can be. Now let's make it be and forget him. Except if we ever play him, at which time victory will be all the sweeter. Let's let it go and never post about him again.

(12-02-2013 06:16 PM)2timesanowl Wrote:  Believe it or not, they are pleased for Rice's success this year. Don't think he's quite the demon you make him out to be.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

His comments made immediate after he left Houston make his/their sentiments immaterial now, at least to me. As far as I'm concerned, choosing to take the job at Tulsa is a personal choice. Trashing Rice on the way out of town is not something I'll forgive and forget. That aside, nothing has ever impressed me about his character, thus I've never been too surprised.

The MOB nailed it when they predicted his descent into hell, now he's a devil. Case closed. I don't go out of my way to trash him, but I don't give a crap about his sentiments or sensibilities now either.

(12-03-2013 09:47 AM)I45owl Wrote:  The MOB nailed it when they predicted his descent into hell, now he's a devil. Case closed.

NostraMOBus?

(12-03-2013 01:46 AM)75src Wrote:  Job Hopping Toad-There is another word other than Todd or Toad that starts with a T and ends with a D that can not posted on the Parliament.

Would that be a Tord?

I will admit that at one time my "dislike" for TG was only surpassed by an evil person that is now feeding the bottom dwellers of the Indian Ocean.

But he's gone from South Main. He is ASU's problem. Everyone knows the TG MO. If he jumps again....