(11-11-2013 01:32 PM)jjmc85 Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 01:37 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The season has played out and the bottom tier is becoming more clear.

NIU
BSU

TOLEDO
BUFFALO
BG

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
UMASS
WMU

MIAMI

I'd flip UMass and WMU. They won head to head, therefore they deserve to be ranked higher IMO.

Good call, forgot they played.

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

(11-11-2013 11:10 AM)utpotts Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 11:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

Well that 3-6 team did beat OU in Athens.

There you go again, beating them over the head with those pesky facts.

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

Well the West is 9-4 in crossover play and well on their way to another solid winning record there. So I'm not sure they need apologists at this point.

Putting CMU and Ohio in the same tier seems reasonable at this point considering the head-to-head result and that Ohio tanked against their only top tier MAC opponent to date. Would probably put the Bobcats slightly ahead still, though.

(11-11-2013 03:33 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

Well the West is 9-4 in crossover play and well on their way to another solid winning record there. So I'm not sure they need apologists at this point.

Putting CMU and Ohio in the same tier seems reasonable at this point considering the head-to-head result and that Ohio tanked against their only top tier MAC opponent to date. Would probably put the Bobcats slightly ahead still, though.

I'm trying to figure out what the hell difference it makes which team is 6th or 7th.

If they only could figure out a way to settle which team is better besides talk about it...

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

For everything you have said this season I am allowed to say this. You suck.

NIU
BSU
TOLEDO

BG
BUFFALO

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
WMU
UMASS

MIAMI

(11-13-2013 12:26 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

For everything you have said this season I am allowed to say this. You suck.

NIU
BSU
TOLEDO

BG
BUFFALO

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
WMU
UMASS

MIAMI

You suck for ranking Ohio that high after tonight. It's a dumpster fire in Athens. Pay attention, dumb dumb. And its real cute how you put Toledo up there with NIU and BSU. lol, child please, you're not fooling anyone.

p.s. you blow.

(11-13-2013 12:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-13-2013 12:26 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

For everything you have said this season I am allowed to say this. You suck.

NIU
BSU
TOLEDO

BG
BUFFALO

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
WMU
UMASS

MIAMI

You suck for ranking Ohio that high after tonight. It's a dumpster fire in Athens. Pay attention, dumb dumb. And its real cute how you put Toledo up there with NIU and BSU. lol, child please, you're not fooling anyone.

p.s. you blow.

Lol we beat 4 and 5 where do you want Toledo to be? If NIU wins, the MAC west goes through Toledo.

After next week, you may end up switching Ohio and Kent. (Dear God I hope not; my brother works for KSU and I'd never hear the end of it!)

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

I'm a MAC West apologist and I apologize for the West dominating the East again. If it's any consolation, basketball season has started and the East can take out their frustrations on the West on the hardcourt.

BTW where is that KSU fan from earlier this year who thought the East had caught the West in football??

(11-13-2013 12:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-13-2013 12:26 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:25 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 03:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.

MAC West apologist. Leave it to a Toledo fan to define the strength of a team by who they lose to, not who they beat.

For everything you have said this season I am allowed to say this. You suck.

NIU
BSU
TOLEDO

BG
BUFFALO

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
WMU
UMASS

MIAMI

You suck for ranking Ohio that high after tonight. It's a dumpster fire in Athens. Pay attention, dumb dumb. And its real cute how you put Toledo up there with NIU and BSU. lol, child please, you're not fooling anyone.

p.s. you blow.

Let me get this straight, you complain two days ago that Ohio isn't ranked high enough. A few weeks ago, you claimed Ohio had the best resume against winning opponents and how Solich should be COY.

Now that they get blown out twice in a row, you call them hot garbage. You can't ask for respect then change your mind. It wasn't until the recent BGSU humilitation you said they suck.

BTW, CMU should be ranked higher than Ohio. They beat them, they had to play Ball State, Toledo, and NIU. Toledo is also upper tier, they have a shot at a MACC.

yes, when they were playing well I felt that should be recognized for doing so, and when they stopped playing well I stopped saying they were doing well. Somehow you're confused by that?

(11-15-2013 11:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  yes, when they were playing well I felt that should be recognized for doing so, and when they stopped playing well I stopped saying they were doing well. Somehow you're confused by that?

No, I'm confused by why you think you're always right or that Ohio is awesome.

One week after losing 30-3, you claim Ohio is ranked too low. To me, that's not playing good football, maybe to you. You complained they were below a 3-6 team, well they did lose to that 3-6 team.

Not sure what you classify as playing good football. I'm not understanding where you draw the line as getting beat by 27 is deserving of upper tier, then losing the next week by 49 completely changes your mind.

If you actually knew what was going on, you'd understand Ohio has been average at best all year.

(11-15-2013 11:56 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-15-2013 11:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  yes, when they were playing well I felt that should be recognized for doing so, and when they stopped playing well I stopped saying they were doing well. Somehow you're confused by that?

No, I'm confused by why you think you're always right or that Ohio is awesome.

One week after losing 30-3, you claim Ohio is ranked too low. To me, that's not playing good football, maybe to you. You complained they were below a 3-6 team, well they did lose to that 3-6 team.

Not sure what you classify as playing good football. I'm not understanding where you draw the line as getting beat by 27 is deserving of upper tier, then losing the next week by 49 completely changes your mind.

If you actually knew what was going on, you'd understand Ohio has been average at best all year.

(11-15-2013 11:56 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-15-2013 11:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  yes, when they were playing well I felt that should be recognized for doing so, and when they stopped playing well I stopped saying they were doing well. Somehow you're confused by that?

No, I'm confused by why you think you're always right or that Ohio is awesome.

One week after losing 30-3, you claim Ohio is ranked too low. To me, that's not playing good football, maybe to you. You complained they were below a 3-6 team, well they did lose to that 3-6 team.

Not sure what you classify as playing good football. I'm not understanding where you draw the line as getting beat by 27 is deserving of upper tier, then losing the next week by 49 completely changes your mind.

If you actually knew what was going on, you'd understand Ohio has been average at best all year.

I think I'm always right because I am, I think Ohio is awesome because it is.

You seem like a simple fellow so let me see if I can spell it out for you- when Ohio lost 1 game on the road with controversial refs so bad that the MAC had to release a statement about it I felt at 6-3 they should be in the same grouping as 6-3 Toledo, 6-3 BG and 7-2 UB, not below 3-6 CMU. That's just common sense.

When they lost again it became obvious that there was something wrong with the team and they weren't the same team they were earlier in the season, so I revised my opinion based on new information. Its not rocket surgery but it seems to have you confused.

To say that a 6-2 team with more wins over winning teams than any other MAC team at the time is "average at best" shows that you're the one that doesn't know what's going on, or just don't understand basic English. You're a huskyfan so it could be both. and by husky I mean you wear jeans with elastic in the waste band.

(11-13-2013 12:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  You suck for ranking Ohio that high after tonight. It's a dumpster fire in Athens. Pay attention, dumb dumb. And its real cute how you put Toledo up there with NIU and BSU. lol, child please, you're not fooling anyone.

p.s. you blow.

Please explain how they are a dumpster fire right now. Is it that they thought that they were going to be handed the MAC East this year?

(11-15-2013 07:27 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-15-2013 11:56 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-15-2013 11:51 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  yes, when they were playing well I felt that should be recognized for doing so, and when they stopped playing well I stopped saying they were doing well. Somehow you're confused by that?

No, I'm confused by why you think you're always right or that Ohio is awesome.

One week after losing 30-3, you claim Ohio is ranked too low. To me, that's not playing good football, maybe to you. You complained they were below a 3-6 team, well they did lose to that 3-6 team.

Not sure what you classify as playing good football. I'm not understanding where you draw the line as getting beat by 27 is deserving of upper tier, then losing the next week by 49 completely changes your mind.

If you actually knew what was going on, you'd understand Ohio has been average at best all year.

You seem like a simple fellow so let me see if I can spell it out for you- when Ohio lost 1 game on the road with controversial refs so bad that the MAC had to release a statement about it I felt at 6-3 they should be in the same grouping as 6-3 Toledo, 6-3 BG and 7-2 UB, not below 3-6 CMU. That's just common sense.
Obviously it wasn't common sense because they didn't belong in that group???

When they lost again it became obvious that there was something wrong with the team and they weren't the same team they were earlier in the season, so I revised my opinion based on new information. Its not rocket surgery but it seems to have you confused.
It was obvious to me a week earlier.

To say that a 6-2 team with more wins over winning teams than any other MAC team at the time is "average at best" shows that you're the one that doesn't know what's going on, or just don't understand basic English.
Through 8 games Toledo had three wins over >.500 opponents, and a win over a team that OU lost too. I think you're the one with comprehension issues.

You're a huskyfan so it could be both. and by husky I mean you wear jeans with elastic in the waste band.
Another personal attack to fans sitting at the top... We look down to you and say, "enjoy your humble pie".

I'll give it to you that a win is more important than a loss. Why can't you give CMU the credit they deserve for winning in Athens.

1. Officials don't make up a 27 point loss, that's absurd
2. Ohio isn't going to a bowl, so I hope you cry all winter
3. At that point Ohio had more wins over teams with winning records, because they played more at that point. Since then, they got pasted by two teams with winning records.
4. Ohio was average to date at 6-2 and is more average now. Tettleton hasn't had the dual threat ability, Blankenship hasn't played well, the defense is so-so.
5. Did you really think they could beat NIU, Toledo, and Ball St? We sure as heck know they can't beat any of the decent east teams and a mediocre CMU team.
6. I guess it's common for adults that weigh 180 pounds to wear children's husky jeans. Btw, elastic jeans are for pregnant women, something you will probably never know about.
7. I will let NIUs dominance over the MAC speak for my team.
8. How is Ohios resume now? They surely deserve respect, everyone hates Ohio, blah blah blah. Just win games and maybe people respect them, doesn't help the east isn't as good as the west.